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Apr 16, 2014 05:11
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it's a joke
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Bloody posted:i dont know what this is but hopefully its bannable
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2banks1swap.avi posted:it's a joke i'm quite sure that's wrong
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do embedded dev if you: -enjoy vendors inviting themselves over to lie to you -want to train yourself to never again trust anything at all, ever -want to try and reconcile your ivory tower ideals of code style with what actually works - either deal with some assholes who wrote a bad hal or write your own and spend months hammering your own balls - have a ton of fun, honestly embdev owns
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Phobeste posted:do embedded dev if you: also seriously, vendor/vendor sales reps will lie to you, rip dan ujvari (quote this if ur on the east coast and use atmel)
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Suspicious Dish posted:i'm quite sure that's wrong it's an inside joke and like all of those should have never left its native habitat
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Phobeste posted:do embedded dev if you: i hate you because you were inconsistent with your indentation in this list
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Phobeste posted:do embedded dev if you: will they tell me i'm pretty?
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Apr 16, 2014 10:39
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will they buy me lunch? thats the only way i will ever willingly speak to a vendor.
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when stm visited a couple of weeks ago they gave me a cap touchscreen dev kit, that was nice. freescale didnt bring poo poo because they're assholes
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altera wandered by the other day to convince us to use their new cyclone psocs for stepper indexing we have no institutional experience or skill with fpgas and no real desire to gain it and also just finished a core electronics platform to use for everything so there was 0 chance we'd buy anything and we told them that and they loving came at 9 am anyway and didn't bring food life is the worst
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Apr 16, 2014 13:57
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Bloody posted:i dont know what this is but hopefully its bannable
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Apr 16, 2014 14:31
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i only know how to write function pointer declarations because of objective-c blocks
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Phobeste posted:-want to try and reconcile your ivory tower ideals of code style with what actually works I don't know if this is because of the nature of embedded or because old C-men love writing macros and doing crazy bit manip/checking when a simple true/false could have worked.
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stopping by real quick to say that i loving hate javascript
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Apr 16, 2014 23:46
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JavaScript is a good language. I like it a lot.
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Suspicious Dish posted:JavaScript is a good language. I like it a lot. it's definitely better than vbscript
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Apr 16, 2014 23:59
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prefect posted:it's definitely better than vbscript please don't summon shaggar
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MeramJert posted:i hate you because you were inconsistent with your indentation in this list embedded programmers 
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tef posted:embedded programmers WELL IT WORKED and yeah the code style thing is sort of forced on you by the folks you're working with and the ones that worked on the project in the past (this is not news) but also the fact that you're working so tightly coupled with hardware. in a lot of cases you don't have a hal at all and you're copying a data sheet and using vendor provided headers with all the all caps names with nonsensical abbreviations that entails and of course the other thing is that in a lot of cases you really are riding close enough to the limits of the devices capability that everything really does go, and you really do want macros and bit fields and all that, because embedded development is actually a super broad field. when i'm writing user space software for embedded linux i can follow nice code guidelines. when writing asm or c for the soc's on die real time processor not so much, but they're both in the job description
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Phobeste posted:and of course the other thing is that in a lot of cases you really are riding close enough to the limits of the devices capability that everything really does go, and you really do want macros and bit fields and all that, because embedded development is actually a super broad field. when i'm writing user space software for embedded linux i can follow nice code guidelines. when writing asm or c for the soc's on die real time processor not so much, but they're both in the job description I remember spending a weekend packing a ton of stuff into bitfields to get under a memory budget on a set-top thing that was embedding our library, only to discover that the extra instructions from manipulating them blew the flash budget for code.  Suspicious Dish posted:JavaScript is a good language. I like it a lot. 
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Suspicious Dish posted:JavaScript is a good language. I like it a lot. javascript is bad and you are bad for liking it
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the best thing about javascript is how you can just press f12 on a browser and start doing magic. it feels so nice and I guess it's the best thing for teaching. other than that, well
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JewKiller 3000 posted:javascript is bad and you are bad for liking it Nope.
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lol if you arent manipulating bitfields and still calling it embedded embedded is the fine art of janitoring bitfields
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Yospos, what's the least poo poo option for Document style database? I have an idea I want to play around with and its a shoe in for document oriented rather than relational data structure. User driven schema, storing documents in a way that preserves their structure expecting changes over time, use of map reduce for analysis. That said, I don't know much about NoSQL databases, what's the least poo poo option out there that doesn't play fast and loose with consistency?
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postgres hstore seems pretty good although i haven't had the chance to use it yet: http://postgresguide.com/sexy/hstore.html if you tweak mongo though you can get "good enough" consistency, especially if you're just playing with an idea. most of the consistency issues are because of the time to replicate to multiple servers, at which point the engine doesn't wait for all servers to confirm the write to return a success state. you can write every document to disk right away as soon as it comes in.
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Maluco Marinero posted:Yospos, what's the least poo poo option for Document style database? I have an idea I want to play around with and its a shoe in for document oriented rather than relational data structure. Lotus Domino
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Maluco Marinero posted:Yospos, what's the least poo poo option for Document style database? I have an idea I want to play around with and its a shoe in for document oriented rather than relational data structure. Riak DynamoDB if you want it in the cloud
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I want it in my butt.
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Maluco Marinero posted:Yospos, what's the least poo poo option for Document style database? I have an idea I want to play around with and its a shoe in for document oriented rather than relational data structure. Can you do what you want to do with a filesystem? If so, use a filesystem.
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Maluco Marinero posted:Yospos, what's the least poo poo option for Document style database? I have an idea I want to play around with and its a shoe in for document oriented rather than relational data structure. have u tries a filesystem? i hear u can make em distributed, and run map reuse over them useing hadup quote:User driven schema, storing documents in a way that preserves their structure expecting changes over time, use of map reduce for analysis. remeber to call fsync good luck!!
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Zombywuf posted:Can you do what you want to do with a filesystem? If so, use a filesystem. quoting this
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CJS: replacing expensive database system with nice cheap files
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tef posted:quoting this i was doing nosql before i heard of nosql. happier times knowing more buzzwords make your life worse
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