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DannoMack posted:What little Heyman did say about Punk is the most we've heard about it. He was a good podcast guest for sure. What did he say?
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Apr 16, 2014 08:12
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TomWaitsForNoMan posted:What did he say? That the only people in that office were Vince, Triple H and Punk, and not one of them has said anything publicly about it so he can't say what "really" happened that night that Punk walked out. He also said he is still in regular contact with Punk but they rarely talk about wrestling, they just shoot the poo poo about tv and sports and the other usual stuff that buddies talk about. It's a really drat good podcast, just to listen to Heyman enthusiastically discussing content and distribution systems makes it worth your time.
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Apr 16, 2014 08:29
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He also said that The Miz main eventing Wrestlemania really pisses Punk off, but I think that was already pretty well known.
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Apr 16, 2014 15:25
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Punk has let that be known on his own documentary.
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Apr 16, 2014 15:29
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What an awful period of wrestling. Miz main eventing, PSP voting him as champion of the year, it had to be temporary insanity. I think we were all just that desperate to have anyone but Cena/Orton be champion, but now the memories bring nothing but shame and odd relics that no longer make sense. 
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Apr 16, 2014 15:45
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A breath of fresh air made up for a hell of a lot. Plus that great match he had against Lawler.
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Apr 16, 2014 15:54
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Wazzu posted:A breath of fresh air made up for a hell of a lot. Plus that great match he had against Lawler. Seriously or are you joking? I wasn't around in 2010 but I wouldn't imagine The Miz and Lawler having a great match.
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Apr 16, 2014 15:58
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xNarUtoRKOrton420x posted:Seriously or are you joking? I wasn't around in 2010 but I wouldn't imagine The Miz and Lawler having a great match. Are we talking about the TLC match?
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Apr 16, 2014 16:03
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Miz and Lawler had a great match and even if only for a fleeting moment they probably should have put the title on Jerry
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Apr 16, 2014 16:08
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DannoMack posted:http://podcastone.com/Steve-Austin-Show-Clean Considering that was a clean show and edited in parts, there's a moment where Heyman just screams "poo poo" (I forget the context). I don't really know why Austin even tries to do a podcast without profanity.
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         JoJoCast Episode 7: Cesario Speedwagon No we are not dead (loving manflurry), we are back, this time without a board game! We cover the last two weeks of NXT, Smackdown, and this week's Total Divas. Answer some questions and I edit a lot in this podcast, can you tell where they are? I hope so! Also nothing else happened, nope, nuh uh. BLANK STOP ASKING ME WHEN THE NEXT EPISODE WILL BE UP, I WORK.  Sex Blank Slapnuts If you want to guest on the podcast, tweet one of us or PM us on SA. Our only real requirement is like, we record on Sundays at 10:30PM EST, which is kind of late for most people. Captain Baal fucked around with this message at 20:55 on Apr 16, 2014 |
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Apr 16, 2014 20:42
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Jerusalem posted:That the only people in that office were Vince, Triple H and Punk, and not one of them has said anything publicly about it so he can't say what "really" happened that night that Punk walked out. He also said he is still in regular contact with Punk but they rarely talk about wrestling, they just shoot the poo poo about tv and sports and the other usual stuff that buddies talk about. It's also implied that Punk hasn't talked to Vince since he quit ("...it would need that first conversation between Vince and Punk..."), at least to Paul's knowledge.
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Apr 16, 2014 21:27
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I'm down for the good word of Jojo being spread more.
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Apr 16, 2014 23:18
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This Heyman-Austin show has a lot of great quotes. "Sandman... he was the drizzling shits" - Paul Heyman.
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Apr 16, 2014 23:53
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Hahaha Come on and Slam anime mashups will never be bad 
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Orgia Carnaval posted:JoJoCast Episode 7: Cesario Speedwagon YOU STOLE MY TWITTER DISPLAY NAME gently caress YOU Looking forward to hearing everyone's thoughts on Occupy NXT.
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Memento posted:This Heyman-Austin show has a lot of great quotes. His story about Jim Crockett giving him a verbal bitchslap cracked me up. "I was so angry I rang him straight back up and told him he was right!"
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sunsweet posted:YOU STOLE MY TWITTER DISPLAY NAME gently caress YOU I'm sorry Sunsweet. You'll get ten percent of what we make off this episode.
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sunsweet posted:YOU STOLE MY TWITTER DISPLAY NAME gently caress YOU uh I haven't seen any royalty checks from your blatant appropriation of my mom's misspelling of Cesaro.
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Apr 17, 2014 02:20
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Jerusalem posted:His story about Jim Crockett giving him a verbal bitchslap cracked me up. No love for "Rob van Dam was a terrible promo, but he connected with people. He said, I'm RVD and I smoke weed. Well, it was true" Also him outlining how most of the ECW stuff was classic angles reworked was interesting. And he furthers Dave's theory about every great booker having a great teacher. But then he'd do the same angle and tweak it again, I am pretty sure they did it with Raven, except raven really was injured at the time with gout or something.
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Punch-or-Piss-podsters: Is there anyone on the current roster that WWE could present, and that the internet smark "smart-mark" idiot-poo poo community would buy, as a legitimate physical threat to Brock Lesnar in the ring? Who is this person? Does the next guy who beats Lesnar in WWE even need to be considered a legit physical threat to Lesnar? Or is the underdog story better for the guy who eventually kicks the poo poo out of him?
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Apr 17, 2014 05:16
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Interesting story on JR's latest podcast I hadn't heard before. After Wrestlemania 17 when everybody had been paid, the Dudleys, Hardyz and Edge & Christian showed up in JR's office and (firmly and politely) told him they weren't happy with their pay, explaining how they felt their match had been a highlight of the show and generated a ton of interest and cash for the company. JR went to Vince and told him, and Vince immediately replied,"They're right, pay them extra." I've heard the similar Jericho story before (from Wrestlemania 18 I think?) but this one stood out to me for a couple of reasons. Vince didn't get pissed at them for asking for more, he gave JR discretion to pay whatever extra he thought was warranted, and perhaps most interestingly - while the three teams came to JR as a group, it was Bubba Ray who did all the talking and most of the others just stared at their shoes and didn't make a peep. Considering recent discussion in other threads, I think it is interesting that they were all in agreement that they deserved more cash but it was Bubba Ray who seemingly made them take action. JR tells the story fondly too, but it's also probably one of the closest things I've heard of in WWE to union bargaining which I'm pretty sure JR has said in the past is something that would never be possible in the wrestling industry.
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LordPants posted:No love for Raven did have gout issues, and had surgery on his foot that required a special boot because one leg was suddenly shorter than the other, but he had to drop the belt the first time because he went to rehab.
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Apr 17, 2014 05:43
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The second part of Austin's Heyman interview is even better than the first, the guy is just endlessly fascinating and SOOOOOO good at talking, I could listen to him all day. Can anybody in the know say whether Heyman's explanation of what happened to ECW is accurate or not? It all sounds entirely reasonable but it does paint ECW in an incredibly sympathetic light and lay all the blame on entirely different parties. Whether it is true or not though, I think his explanation just goes to show that this is a guy who really could sell ice to eskimos. Also, his gleeful admission of guilt about listening in on DIFFERENT Raw conference calls to the one he was accused of listening in to was hilarious, and he confirms that Vince McMahon really does get furious at sneezes. Heyman: Is something the matter Vince? Vince: I sneezed...... dammit, I should be better than that 
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Apr 17, 2014 11:29
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Jerusalem posted:The second part of Austin's Heyman interview is even better than the first, the guy is just endlessly fascinating and SOOOOOO good at talking, I could listen to him all day. I'm assuming he's still hanging the blame at the feet of TNN and blaming that lovely TV deal he got for ruining the company and the PPV companies for not paying them so they went out of business? They definitely did get messed up by the TV Deal and that caused a lot of problems for them, but at the same time his company was getting raided whenever they had a decently big star, not to mention their product was never going to sell on TV to the mass market anyway. Would a good TV deal have helped them? Sure, but he was getting propped up by Vince's money long before that happened. It was really a situation where the company became too big but without the audience and income to support it. I don't think ECW would have been successful running indy shows with the quarterly PPVs.
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His claim is that they were 7 million dollars in the red, that 4 million of it was his own family's money, and that the guy in charge of OnDemand refused to pay them 2.8million in royalties they were owed. The only TV deal he could get was an offer (I think it was on FSN?) to do four half-hour shows a week in the afternoon, and he ended up having no choice but to declare bankruptcy which left some other poor bastard to work out who was owed what and who owed ECW (Akklaim apparently tried to claim ownership of ECW assets until being reminded they hadn't paid owed royalties themselves) and at the end of it all, Vince McMahon owned everything outright. Something mindboggling though is his revelation that when he was being courted by Dixie Carter to join TNA, he learned that TNA had at that point (2-3 years ago I think) lost between 70-90 MILLION DOLLARS  . He goes on into a (really interesting) diversion further discussing his earlier comments about the importance of distribution, product and finance. He claims that he had the product but not the distribution or the finance, and if he'd had just one of the two he could have soldiered on and gotten the third as a result.I don't doubt he is painting himself in a more positive light and others in a more negative light than is truly warranted, but goddamn if he doesn't make it all sound so straightforward and reasonable when he does it.
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Apr 17, 2014 11:53
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Jerusalem posted:... but goddamn if he doesn't make it all sound so straightforward and reasonable when he does it. Heyman's an expert manipulator. that's why so many ECW wrestlers kept working without pay.
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Apr 17, 2014 12:16
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The Rise and Fall of ECW DVD that WWE put out a few years ago actually does a pretty good job of explaining things. Heyman's version isn't that far off the mark but I'm guessing he leaves out his own massive failings as a business person. He really is better off just working in creative. If I remember right, toward the end of ECW, Bubba Ray was essentially running the day-to-day business of the company with some help from a few other wrestlers. It was bad news when he jumped to WWE.
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Apr 17, 2014 12:23
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Paul was also incredibly last minute about everything and would, for example, spend way too much money sending tapes out for syndication in areas where ECW didn't even run shows. He made the same mistakes that a lot of his territorial predecessors made, in that he was trying to expand far beyond what he could manage, he overspent without even considering his budget, and once his top guys who were helping him with business got poached by WCW and WWE, he was screwed.
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Apr 17, 2014 16:28
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Stone Cold talking about Roid Rats is hilarious.
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Apr 17, 2014 17:27
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Heyman calling Mississauga MISSAGWA was funny too.
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Apr 17, 2014 22:00
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Dunbar posted:The Rise and Fall of ECW DVD that WWE put out a few years ago actually does a pretty good job of explaining things. Heyman's version isn't that far off the mark but I'm guessing he leaves out his own massive failings as a business person. He really is better off just working in creative. If I remember right, toward the end of ECW, Bubba Ray was essentially running the day-to-day business of the company with some help from a few other wrestlers. It was bad news when he jumped to WWE. JoshVanValkenburg posted:Stone Cold talking about Roid Rats is hilarious.
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JoshVanValkenburg posted:Stone Cold talking about Roid Rats is hilarious. I lost it when he got to the bit about the rats pole-vaulting in.
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achillesforever6 posted:Yeah Bubba always seems to have a surprisingly good head on his shoulders, the guy is pretty smart. Bubba is wresting smart. Let's make that distinction. He's still a loving moron.
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ICHIBAHN posted:Bubba is wresting smart. Let's make that distinction. He's still a loving moron. He's not even wrestling smart. Doesn't he still take unprotected headshots with chairs and stuff like that?
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Apr 17, 2014 23:51
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Bubba is smart, and good, with certain things, and very very dumb when it comes to other things
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Apr 17, 2014 23:53
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The Goog posted:HulkaMatt had stuff to do, and KFG got picked up by the Chaotic Express, or whatever Adam Rose's bus is called, and so it was just myself and MRT left to do the Ten Count this week. ah so thats why you asked me to join in.
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Bubba was like a 10 year veteran at that point so it makes sense he took the lead, and he's enough of a Type A rear end in a top hat to barge in and demand more money. This is not to say they didn't deserve a raise for killing themselves in TLC because they absolutely did.
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Jerusalem posted:His claim is that they were 7 million dollars in the red, that 4 million of it was his own family's money, and that the guy in charge of OnDemand refused to pay them 2.8million in royalties they were owed. The only TV deal he could get was an offer (I think it was on FSN?) to do four half-hour shows a week in the afternoon, and he ended up having no choice but to declare bankruptcy which left some other poor bastard to work out who was owed what and who owed ECW (Akklaim apparently tried to claim ownership of ECW assets until being reminded they hadn't paid owed royalties themselves) and at the end of it all, Vince McMahon owned everything outright. This is more honest than I'd expect Heyman to be. The company owed 9 million at the end. I'm not sure about the OnDemand money, but the rest is pretty accurate. The TV deal they were offered was Sports Channel Ohio and Dreamer really really wanted to take it but Heyman knew they'd just keep losing money with such a small deal.
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