bigtom posted:At least Alan Freed's payola put doo wop & rock 'n roll on the air. King of the boondogglers?
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ProperGanderPusher posted:This study is spreading like wildfire throughout my feed for some reason and a lot of anti-pot people are coming out of the woodwork and proclaiming that we need to double down on cannabis prohibition. It's all couched in a lot of culture war hippie-bashing, of course. Oh man, thanks for posting this, I may have to use it in my college presentation next week about marijuana as a market substitute for alcohol and such.  United States of Intoxication... "Hmm, now where have I heard that one before..." *slide of scene from Prohibition* "Oh, riiiiight."
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Apr 18, 2014 19:48
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FuzzySkinner posted:http://foxnewsinsider.com/2014/04/16/%E2%80%98-united-states-intoxication-not-good-thing%E2%80%99-o%E2%80%99reilly-new-pot-study Is this the same study that's been going around NPR? Cause the NPR boiled down to me, in completely non scientific terms, to basically be "if you smoke pot you'll want to smoke pot instead of doing other poo poo and we see how that changes in the brain", which is basically a wash if you known any major potheads because, yeah, they'd rather get stoned on the couch instead of going out to the movies or something. No loving surprise there.
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Apr 18, 2014 20:45
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Here in Colorado people smoke loads of pot in conjunction with loads of fun and healthy activities such as hiking, climbing, backpacking, bike riding. Maybe they can leave their couches with the stuff since they know they're not going to get handcuffed if they do.
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Apr 18, 2014 20:47
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agarjogger posted:Here in Colorado people smoke loads of pot in conjunction with loads of fun and healthy activities such as hiking, climbing, backpacking, bike riding. Maybe they can leave their couches with the stuff since they know they're not going to get handcuffed if they do. Yeah, it's difficult to combine pot with outdoor activities if you don't have the option of consuming after you leave your private space and travel to wherever. I know more potheads who combine pot with going out to a bar/event than I do potheads who plan to get high and stay home.
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Apr 18, 2014 20:52
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Going to the movies stoned used to be my favorite thing but I'm so heavy these days it's more like getting stoned for the previews and actually finishing a large bag of popcorn rather than throwing it away. I remember one time early in my career I asked my roommate to turn the sound down because our neighbors were going to complain on us. I demand we bring back intermissions! Edit: WA resident. I can also confirm I do it a lot more out on the road now that we're decriminalized but it's not like I never did before.
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Apr 18, 2014 21:01
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SedanChair posted:I wonder who they like "La Raza Operative Marco Rubio" The greatest part of this is that after Julian Castro's 2012 speech, there was a bit of a conservative attempt to tie Julian Castro to La Raza as well; his mother Maria del Rosario Castro actually was a member, so it wasn't just right wing bullshit. It kinda backfired though, since Castro pretty much embraces his La Raza origins, hell he even says his mother's activism inspired his own political ambitions. It especially backfired in San Antonio, since there are a lot of Hispanics who flat out see his La Raza ties as a good thing; I'm not even Hispanic and I see them as positive as well. So seeing "La Raza Operative Scott Walker" and "La Raza Operative Marco Rubio" just makes me sad that it's not true; if they really were true left wing La Raza operatives, I'd vote for them.
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fade5 posted:So seeing "La Raza Operative Scott Walker" and "La Raza Operative Marco Rubio" just makes me sad that it's not true; if they really were true left wing La Raza operatives, I'd vote for them. Phone him up, say, "Scott. Old pal, my chum. Koch, here. Which one? Doesn't matter. Anyway, new orders. You are to run a distraction route by throwing in with the la Raza agenda. Keep me posted on your progress! Good day, sir. I SAID GOOD DAY! *click*" It's somewhat possible Walker's staff may have closed that loophole, but I doubt it.
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Dad was watching O'Reilly as it was airing a "Best of". http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zI79xr_5nis So...let me get this straight. "Government Overreach" is being conditioned on us via us setting up "Obamacare", thus it'll lead us down the path of having the "Anti-Christ" coming. "I"m not saying he's the Anti-Christ, BUT, HE IS SETTING UP FOR HIM" "GAY MARRIAGE=SETTING UP FOR THE ANTI-CHRIST" "One reason for the disintegration of family, is because of gay marriage". e: Apparently the Jews believe in the Anti-Christ too! That's news to me as their faith is VASTLY different in a lot of ways versus his (crazy) version of Christianity.
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Apr 19, 2014 01:51
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agarjogger posted:Phone him up, say, "Scott. Old pal, my chum. Koch, here. Which one? Doesn't matter. Anyway, new orders. You are to run a distraction route by throwing in with the la Raza agenda. Keep me posted on your progress! Good day, sir. I SAID GOOD DAY! *click*" "This is Carlos Koch, calling on behalf of La Raza. Scott, I need you to fire all the public sector workers and replace them with illegal immigrants, which is according to our agenda. Thank you."
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Apr 19, 2014 01:56
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pd187 posted:Have we ever talked about mofopolitics.com in this thread?? "Edgy" bro version of WND or Breitbert. Crazy racist + sexist, constant RINO accusations. Here's a taste: Jagchosis posted:Well the mustache was pretty blatant, and I could at least understand a racist shithead imagining Cubans all have some big bushy mustache, but the Mexican flag really hits home that they have no idea what Rubio's ancestry is. SedanChair posted:I wonder who they like
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Cardboard Box A posted:If I were Jed Bush I would be severely disappointed that I was not a La Raza Operative. I watch that and I think "Oh OK, Scott Walker is a mainstream Republican" and then I start giggling maniacally at how loving stupid our politics have become, because I can't cry anymore.
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Apr 19, 2014 09:49
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Cardboard Box A posted:This is beatiful. So much hate for all the mainstream right wing media and embracing Alex Jones. And every single Republican leader is a RINO. He's done plenty to gently caress over latin american refugees in Florida so he passes the Republican test.
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Apr 19, 2014 22:34
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Edit: WA resident. I can also confirm I do it a lot more out on the road now that we're decriminalized but it's not like I never did before. I never understood people who smoke weed while driving. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fl7o1EB0sYI
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For me I would like to say marijuana and this and a bit of music go together mighty well
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Edit: WA resident. I can also confirm I do it a lot more out on the road now that we're decriminalized but it's not like I never did before. Speaking as someone who fully believes not only in decriminalization, but full legalization for recreational purposes, I think driving while stoned should be an arrestable offense. Just as driving under the influence of alcohol is.
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Apr 20, 2014 17:49
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Walter posted:Speaking as someone who fully believes not only in decriminalization, but full legalization for recreational purposes, I think driving while stoned should be an arrestable offense. Just as driving under the influence of alcohol is. Totally agreed. Driving while intoxicated is a danger to everybody around you.
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Apr 20, 2014 21:00
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CNN: Can the Klan Rebrand? (that was the orignal headline before they edited it) http://www.cnn.com/2014/04/19/us/jewish-center-shootings-kkk-rebranding/
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Apr 20, 2014 21:07
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Walter posted:Speaking as someone who fully believes not only in decriminalization, but full legalization for recreational purposes, I think driving while stoned should be an arrestable offense. Just as driving under the influence of alcohol is. A lot of states have laws that are broad enough to include intoxication from things other than alcohol. I know Oregon will site you with DUI if you are on cold medicine or antihistamines that makes you drowsy.
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Apr 20, 2014 21:52
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IIRC Ohio's law is just "driving while impaired" and is broad enough to even cover driving while sleepy but not under the influence of anything.
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I didn't mean a literal road.
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Apr 21, 2014 01:09
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If a cop pulls you over and thinks you're stoned, how do they test for that?
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Chantilly Say posted:If a cop pulls you over and thinks you're stoned, how do they test for that? The same way they test you if you're strung out on prescription meds. They have you do a motor and mental skills tests like walking a straight line and reciting the alphabet backwards to determine acuity. Don't most places already have impairment laws in place that cover all the other ways people might be impaired while driving? The fear-mongering over stoned people driving is pretty crazy considering these laws have been in place for literal decades before anyone even started talking about legal marijuana seriously. Also, we have stoned people driving now already. Prohibition has failed. Marijuana is fairly easy to get in the US even in places where it's illegal. So it's a problem that should already exist right now if it exists at all. When you look at the laws it's pretty clear that not only has this problem been brought up before, it's also already been solved!
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Chantilly Say posted:If a cop pulls you over and thinks you're stoned, how do they test for that? There's a roadside saliva test they can do, but it gives a positive if you've smoked at all in the last 12 hours. Which is a lovely way of telling if a driver is impaired.
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beatlegs posted:CNN: Can the Klan Rebrand? (that was the orignal headline before they edited it) 
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pd187 posted:STUPID MORON JON HUNTSMAN
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ErIog posted:The same way they test you if you're strung out on prescription meds. They have you do a motor and mental skills tests like walking a straight line and reciting the alphabet backwards to determine acuity. These tests are pretty much complete bullshit, with "the results are whatever you want then to be!" levels on par with lie detectors. Whether you pass or fail is completely up to the officer and the accuracy rate is like 50%. Maybe it'll be better for weed, who knows, but I doubt it. I agree with the rest of your post though.
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I thought that field tests like this were simply to gauge if there is a reason to go further. You do these tests and if the person fails, you have now have another step towards bringing them in. I always thought that field tests were not admissible in court but you can use them to bring someone in and do a blood test, which is admissible in court. As a teacher at an alternative education high school, we go through basic training to do something similar. We know that we can ask students to do certain things (look up at a light) and it can show that they are under the influence. We have never used that specifically to kick someone out (nor do we use it to have the student arrested) but we have used it as a stepping stone to asking them to turn out their pockets (which due to what they had on them, they were removed from our program).
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Bizarro Kanyon posted:I thought that field tests like this were simply to gauge if there is a reason to go further. You do these tests and if the person fails, you have now have another step towards bringing them in. I always thought that field tests were not admissible in court but you can use them to bring someone in and do a blood test, which is admissible in court. The tests are so the cop can say, "I gave him the test." If a police officer has you out of your car and walking a line, you're already going to jail.
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beatlegs posted:CNN: Can the Klan Rebrand? (that was the orignal headline before they edited it) Someone on a major news site wrote an article about whether a group who's primary reason for existence is white supremacist racism and nativism- is capable of "reforming"? 
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Mister Macys posted:Someone on a major news site wrote an article about whether a group who's primary reason for existence is white supremacist racism and nativism- is capable of "reforming"? Note how this post applies very easily to the GOP.
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Mister Macys posted:Someone on a major news site wrote an article about whether a group who's primary reason for existence is white supremacist racism and nativism- is capable of "reforming"? Almost all cable news is worthless, but CNN is ahead of even Fox News in the race to the bottom.
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Intel&Sebastian posted:Note how this post applies very easily to the GOP. Or the Democrats of yore... ohgodwhat fucked around with this message at 17:20 on Apr 21, 2014 |
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Centripetal Horse posted:The tests are so the cop can say, "I gave him the test." If a police officer has you out of your car and walking a line, you're already going to jail. I've passed one before and was sent back to my car. Got pulled over for crossing the right-line due to being drowsy. The action of being pulled over sent enough adrenaline through my system that I alerted right-the-gently caress-up. Passed all the tests and was on my way to work. I guess the dude was bummed out he didn't get a drunk driver, or something.
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ohgodwhat posted:Or the Democrats of yore... I'd rather be the former horse fucker than the current one denying it.
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Vriess posted:I've passed one before and was sent back to my car. Got pulled over for crossing the right-line due to being drowsy. The action of being pulled over sent enough adrenaline through my system that I alerted right-the-gently caress-up. Passed all the tests and was on my way to work. From what I understand that's generally the cut and dry for scoping out DUI and people texting. Listlessly floating over the lines and sudden jerks back into the lane.
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I don't think any of those tests are compulsive in any state. You probably have nothing to gain by taking them, they can be used against you but I'd be surprised if passing was used in your favor. I'd take the time to find a local DUI lawyer's website and see if they have a list of do's and don'ts. Don't drive under the influence or while tired and you'll probably never need to use that advice.
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Vriess posted:I've passed one before and was sent back to my car. Got pulled over for crossing the right-line due to being drowsy. The action of being pulled over sent enough adrenaline through my system that I alerted right-the-gently caress-up. Passed all the tests and was on my way to work. Yeah, I realize my statement is an exaggeration and sometimes people pass the test and get to go on their way. My point is that the cop is already pretty sure you're impaired before he has you do the little circus act. In your case, he was right when he pulled you over, and wrong by the time he got to your window. Edit: ^^ Here in Nevada, the officer can use "reasonable force" to make you take a BAC test. This might only be after he has placed you under arrest, but I don't think that's much of a distinction. Centripetal Horse fucked around with this message at 17:49 on Apr 21, 2014 |
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Dr. Arbitrary posted:I don't think any of those tests are compulsive in any state. You probably have nothing to gain by taking them, they can be used against you but I'd be surprised if passing was used in your favor. My understanding is that some places use the refusal to take a sobriety test of any type as an admittance of guilt. If you were sober you wouldn't refuse, now would you?
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ToxicSlurpee posted:My understanding is that some places use the refusal to take a sobriety test of any type as an admittance of guilt. If you were sober you wouldn't refuse, now would you? Also, it's probably illegal (I'm no lawyer though) to use that as admittance of guilt or probable cause, not that it's ever stopped cops before. Ghost of Reagan Past fucked around with this message at 20:08 on Apr 21, 2014 |
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