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Mithranderp posted:Because most people don't know the law and the business owners can get away with it. It's not just computer stores as well; it's medium businesses and franchises. There is a highly exploitable base of international students here in Australia and the big businesses can't take advantage, but the mediums and franchises do. One of my ex-housemates is an international student and did a "trial" for a bubble tea joint; I asked her if she was getting paid for it and she had no idea that you were entitled to get paid for doing a trial. The franchises get away with it because most people would assume that places like Subway or Donut King wouldn't be that dodgy. My wife was told to do free trials by her Centrelink-associated job search case worker. poo poo is loving rampant.
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Quantum Mechanic posted:My wife was told to do free trials by her Centrelink-associated job search case worker. poo poo is loving rampant. Going back a bit (to like 2003) when I was a young unemployed bum waiting to be accepted to Uni, my job search member told me to go to a free trial at the cafe. When it came time for me to start full time study, they asked me if I would put down that they helped me to get accepted. I told them where to shove it. The whole job network thing is a scam. They basically benefit from having you on their books for a time, then will shove you into any poo poo position they can find, fully knowing you won't be suitable and will be back on their books again in a months time. In the meantime, they'll do gently caress all else to help you with looking for work. My mother used to work for one back before the system was changed from DSS to Centrelink and it was very different back then. I milked the system, told my job network member I had no clothes for interviews and no mobile phone (which was true at the time) and managed to score both out of them. That prepaid Nokia brick lasted me a good five years too.
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Head office, Milton. The payslip says you're getting Super but it's going to some ghost account which you're never given the details of. Even if you give management your own Super account details to put in, they will still put the Super payment into this weird ghost account which just opens up in your name when you commence employment. I've never gotten the details of this account in order to find the money I am entitled to. I just know, somewhere Umart opened an account "for me" but never gave me the details of it. Other employees have also talked to me about this super account which they also have not gotten the details or access to. For all I know the account may only exist on the payslips themselves and not in reality. When you're employed there you're told your wage is $21/h BUT 3 of those dollars will be subtracted from your pay and put into Super which makes your actual pay $18. I'm not sure how legal this is. I just know that my semi-frequent questions about where this superannuation account is or where the money is has led to my rather sudden termination.
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Gough Suppressant posted:mods ban this sick filth Every time I walk into umart, a wave of depression washes over me. Everyone is always so miserable. MSY was a little better, though only a single guy worked there. He was always pretty friendly. Unfortunately the place I usually go to burnt down in an "accident".
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I know someone who was tasked by a major retailer to spend four weeks on a "trial" breaking up boxes during the Xmas period. When I pointed it out to him he didn't want to make a noise out of fear he wouldn't get employed; he never did regardless. This seems to be the common factor in why people don't speak up, they'd rather get poo poo pay than none. MSY's quite ACCC's friend having been smacked with fines totaling around $200,000 for misleading warranties and advertising. BogDew fucked around with this message at 14:36 on Apr 23, 2014 |
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Anidav posted:Head office, Milton. The payslip says you're getting Super but it's going to some ghost account which you're never given the details of. Even if you give management your own Super account details to put in, they will still put the Super payment into this weird ghost account which just opens up in your name when you commence employment. I've never gotten the details of this account in order to find the money I am entitled to. I just know, somewhere Umart opened an account "for me" but never gave me the details of it. Other employees have also talked to me about this super account which they also have not gotten the details or access to. For all I know the account may only exist on the payslips themselves and not in reality. When you're employed there you're told your wage is $21/h BUT 3 of those dollars will be subtracted from your pay and put into Super which makes your actual pay $18. I'm not sure how legal this is. I just know that my semi-frequent questions about where this superannuation account is or where the money is has led to my rather sudden termination. Were you one of the customer service guys at the counter? If so, this sucks because you were probably the nice guy there that I usually had serve me. That sounds wrong too. The way I've had it explained that super and salary/wage are seperate, but you're usually given a figure, like $40k renumeration a year and part of that is super (9%). 9% of $21 is $1.89, so the whole $3 going to a different account is probably just them skimming your salary, putting it into a savings account and pocketing the interest. That sounds pretty lovely and horrible for an employer, but I'm guessing you were on a part time permanent employed basis and they weren't giving you sick leave or annual leave, so it's not too far a stretch to assume they're capable of the above.
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WebDog posted:MSY's quite ACCC's friend having been smacked with fines totaling around $200,000 for misleading warranties and advertising. Yeah. I'm pretty sure they've been compelled to post their Australian Consumer Law obligations up at their stores; I've seen notices about ACL at one of their shops. This is because their policy used to pretty much be "no refunds for any reason" which I'm guessing they tried to use on the wrong nerd.
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CrazyTolradi posted:Were you one of the customer service guys at the counter?
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Anidav posted:Head office, Milton. The payslip says you're getting Super but it's going to some ghost account which you're never given the details of. Even if you give management your own Super account details to put in, they will still put the Super payment into this weird ghost account which just opens up in your name when you commence employment. I've never gotten the details of this account in order to find the money I am entitled to. I just know, somewhere Umart opened an account "for me" but never gave me the details of it. Other employees have also talked to me about this super account which they also have not gotten the details or access to. For all I know the account may only exist on the payslips themselves and not in reality. When you're employed there you're told your wage is $21/h BUT 3 of those dollars will be subtracted from your pay and put into Super which makes your actual pay $18. I'm not sure how legal this is. I just know that my semi-frequent questions about where this superannuation account is or where the money is has led to my rather sudden termination. Sounds like you're having some trouble managing your super, this might help
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Anidav posted:Head office, Milton. The payslip says you're getting Super but it's going to some ghost account which you're never given the details of. Even if you give management your own Super account details to put in, they will still put the Super payment into this weird ghost account which just opens up in your name when you commence employment. I've never gotten the details of this account in order to find the money I am entitled to. I just know, somewhere Umart opened an account "for me" but never gave me the details of it. Other employees have also talked to me about this super account which they also have not gotten the details or access to. For all I know the account may only exist on the payslips themselves and not in reality. When you're employed there you're told your wage is $21/h BUT 3 of those dollars will be subtracted from your pay and put into Super which makes your actual pay $18. I'm not sure how legal this is. I just know that my semi-frequent questions about where this superannuation account is or where the money is has led to my rather sudden termination. Yeah your super sure as gently caress doesn't legally get taken out of your wage, it is additional on top of your wage. Hang these fuckers out to dry.
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Anidav posted:Head office, Milton. The payslip says you're getting Super but it's going to some ghost account which you're never given the details of. Even if you give management your own Super account details to put in, they will still put the Super payment into this weird ghost account which just opens up in your name when you commence employment. I've never gotten the details of this account in order to find the money I am entitled to. I just know, somewhere Umart opened an account "for me" but never gave me the details of it. Other employees have also talked to me about this super account which they also have not gotten the details or access to. For all I know the account may only exist on the payslips themselves and not in reality. When you're employed there you're told your wage is $21/h BUT 3 of those dollars will be subtracted from your pay and put into Super which makes your actual pay $18. I'm not sure how legal this is. I just know that my semi-frequent questions about where this superannuation account is or where the money is has led to my rather sudden termination. Everything posted here is sketchy as gently caress. As has been said hang them the gently caress out to dry.
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This may not help you since more than likely they're loving with you, but if you register for ATO's online services you can see all the Super that has been reported to the ATO as being held for you. It might not be completely up to date as superfunds only report once a year but it might help. It's actually really helpful and I was able to finally combine three super accounts and some lost funds which I never had the effort to fill out all the different forms for previously as I am a terrible accountant. Also pfft as if our generation will reach retirement age. http://www.ato.gov.au/Calculators-and-tools/SuperSeeker/
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Generation Y is just going to have to literally dig deep and toil in the salt mines until the revised retirement age of ninety seven. Your country needs you to help fix the budget.
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Captain Pissweak posted:Your country needs you to help Fixed this for you.
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Bold the whole thing Australians from all walks of life should brace for a serious tightening of federal government expenditure, Joe Hockey has warned but it appears it will be older Australians who will be asked to do some of the heaviest lifting in a budget repair task being cast as a moral and economic necessity. In a speech just weeks ahead of his first budget, Mr Hockey has railed against the unsustainability of the age pension, the growing cost of aged care services, and the drain on the budget from the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme, which he noted was weighed down with 80 per cent of its costs coming from concessional usage. "The problem we have is that the volume of demand for these programmes is outstripping the capacity of taxpayers to fund them," Mr Hockey warned. Advertisement <i>Illustration: Cathy Wilcox</i> Illustration: Cathy Wilcox "Between 2010 and 2050 the percentage of people of working age supporting those over the age of 65 in Australia will almost halve. "So the policies must be changed, either now or more dramatically in the future." Announcing that the long-withheld Commission of Audit report would finally be released next week, the Treasurer said the budget would draw some recommendations from the report but would either delay or reject others. He said every sector of the community would be affected including households, corporates, and the public sector. In an effort to drive the budget back into the black, he said the budget would contain significant across-the-board spending cuts and would also feature wider use of means testing for welfare benefits and the more extensive use of co-payments for services until now free of such user charges. That appeared to vindicate reports that a new $6 fee for GP visits to be met by the patient could be in the the offing as well as possible payments for hospital services, and other government provided benefits. Mr Hockey said the charges would "encourage moderation in demand for services", noting that "nothing is free - someone always pays". Mr Hockey is expected to outline a slightly faster return to surplus than has previously been foreshadowed with an accompanying graph in his speech showing the government's balance sheet could achieve balance in 2018-19 on a path towards a solid surplus of 1 per cent of GDP by 2023-24. The speech, a keynote address in Sydney on Wednesday evening, was designed to frame the public debate ahead of the budget. Citing what he dubbed "a strong economic and moral imperative to change course," Mr Hockey, said it was only by getting back to surplus that the country could stop borrowing money - which this year alone meant an interest bill of $12 billion or "about the same as we spend on higher education". Having previously called for an end to the "age of entitlement", Mr Hockey spent some time in his speech focusing on the expanding cost of the age pension, arguing that as the population ages it places an increasing burden on other people. "Of Australians over the age of 65, four out of five receive a full or part pension," he said. "If we also take into account the concessionary health card, then only 14 per cent of older Australians receive no government payments. "Despite spending billions of dollars in taxation benefits for superannuation, by 2050, the ratio of Australians receiving a full or part pension will still be around four out of five. He said aged care was "now the eighth largest category of spending". "We spend more on aged care than we do on higher education or child care. "And the Pharmaceutical Benefits Scheme is the 10th largest category of spending. "Nearly 80 per cent of the scheme’s expenditure is attributable to concessional recipients." Mr Hockey revealed the Commission of Audit had recommended that real spending growth be capped at no more than 1.75 per cent if the budget was to have any chance of returning to a long-term goal of achieveing a surplus equal to 1 per cent of GDP. Labor's spending growth target was a maximum 2 per cent but it never achieved that after the stimulus splurge needed to avoid a GFC-led recession. The opposition immediately criticised the Hockey speech as an alibi for broken promises. "The Abbott government created their own budget emergency, and now they are telling pensioners to pay for it," said Opposition Leader Bill Shorten. "If the Prime Minister is so desperate to cut, he should leave pensioners alone and start with his extravagant paid parental leave scheme. "The Prime Minister promised ‘no change to pensions’ and he can’t talk his way around that, try as he might."
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Bifauxnen posted:Man, I wonder how far they can go with this. If Umart's been operating for years and years like that, could they get sued for so much back pay and super and stuff that they get completely loving destroyed? That would really make me happy. They're also the ones who store passwords in plaintext so yeh enjoy getting your poo poo hacked too (it's already happened once a few years ago). Umart are cheap and this is why. I am sure MSY are the same, but we just don't know it. Computer Alliance at Mt Gravatt seem way more legit but expect it to cost more because of it.
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Anidav posted:Head office, Milton. The payslip says you're getting Super but it's going to some ghost account which you're never given the details of. Even if you give management your own Super account details to put in, they will still put the Super payment into this weird ghost account which just opens up in your name when you commence employment. I've never gotten the details of this account in order to find the money I am entitled to. I just know, somewhere Umart opened an account "for me" but never gave me the details of it. Other employees have also talked to me about this super account which they also have not gotten the details or access to. For all I know the account may only exist on the payslips themselves and not in reality. When you're employed there you're told your wage is $21/h BUT 3 of those dollars will be subtracted from your pay and put into Super which makes your actual pay $18. I'm not sure how legal this is. I just know that my semi-frequent questions about where this superannuation account is or where the money is has led to my rather sudden termination. Sounds dodgy as gently caress as at the least you need to know the super details so you can change accounts if you wish. The fact that this super firm hasn't contacted you with requests for information or statements suggests it doesn't exist. Might suck, but have to fight them. They get away with it because others can't or wont stand up. Since you're wronged you can get Fair Work and whoever else involved.
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Just gently caress it all Treasurer Joe Hockey has warned next month's federal budget will introduce tougher means testing of support payments and more upfront costs for government services. In a speech made in Sydney entitled The Case for Change, Mr Hockey began to unveil the findings and recommendations of the Government's much-anticipated Commission of Audit, which the Coalition is using to frame the May 13 budget. The commission handed its final report to the Government late last month and the Treasurer will release it publicly next week. Mr Hockey says the report makes it clear the nation has "a serious spending problem" and recommends "substantial spending restraint". "Budget repair is going to require some difficult decisions, including winding back some spending that people have come to take for granted," he said. "Means testing must become an even more important part of Australia's transfer system to ensure the sustainability of our income support payments. Support must be targeted to those in most need. "More use of co-payments should be made to encourage some moderation in demand for government-provided goods and services. Nothing is free. Someone always pays. "It is appropriate that those who use government services should contribute towards their cost." So if Australians ask themselves of the budget in May, 'what's in it for me?', my response will be a better future. Joe Hockey There have been widespread reports the Government is poised to introduce a $6 co-payment for bulk-billed GP appointments, raise the age of the pension from 67 to 70 and address the growth in Family Tax Benefit B. Mr Hockey says there will be numerous instances where budget decisions will be implemented over time, but has warned that "every sector of the community - households, corporates and the public sector alike - will be expected to contribute". "So if Australians ask themselves of the budget in May, 'What's in it for me?', my response will be a better future," he said. "I ask Australians not to judge this budget on what they get or lose today. This budget is about our quality of life for the years ahead." Commission of Audit made 86 recommendations Mr Hockey says the Commission of Audit has made 86 recommendations, some of which can be "actioned in the short term". "Others will require further consideration, and some will be rejected outright," he said. The report has focused on the 15 largest government programs and found they are also the nation's fastest growing. The age pension tops the list with a cost this financial year of $39.5 billion. Video: Economist Saul Eslake talks to 7.30 host Sarah Ferguson (7.30) In a further signal the pension is set for changes in the budget, Mr Hockey emphasised that is "much more than we spend on defence, or hospitals, or schools each year". "It is our single biggest spending program," he said. "So the policies must be changed, either now or more dramatically in the future." He says the Government will continue to support the "most vulnerable" people, but says there will be an "ongoing and relentless focus on fiscal discipline". Mr Hockey has highlighted the Government's plans to introduce a wage-replacement paid parental leave scheme and infrastructure spending as key measures to boost productivity and economic growth. Child care and paid parental leave are listed by the commission among the top spending programs, at number 12, and it is the second-fastest growing with average annual growth slated to be 11.5 per cent. The Coalition's new scheme is due to begin in 2015 at a cost of $5.5 billion a year, partly paid for by a 1.5 per cent levy on big business. But the Opposition has slammed the scheme - which pays mothers who earn up to $150,000 a year their full wage for six months - and says it should be dumped. "If the Prime Minister is so desperate to cut, he should leave pensioners alone and start with his extravagant paid parental leave scheme," Opposition Leader Bill Shorten said in a statement.
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quote:Mr Hockey says the report makes it clear the nation has "a serious spending problem" and recommends "substantial spending restraint". I went looking for the growing Ironicat gif for this and it turns out virtually all the returns are cartoons from past political cartoon threads. I don't know, Mr. Hockey, maybe you could save some money if you hadn't just spent fifty-eight billion dollars on fighter jets that don't work?
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Lid posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyJh3qKjSMk https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t0jgZKV4N_A Replace "Queen Elizabeth" with F-35 And "F-35B" with F-35A And "Scottish Nationalists" with brown people on boats
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quote:So if Australians ask themselves of the budget in May, 'what's in it for me?', my response will be a better future. HOW? WHERE? WHAT THE HELL IS GOING TO BE LEFT FOR PEOPLE TO BUILD A FUTURE WITH? Bootstraps.
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Can you loving image the furore and feigned outrage if Gillard or Rudd had tried to do what Hockey is doing?
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Can't have war orphans and broke pensioners getting a sense of entitlement can we? Not when we have fighter jets and negative gearing to support
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Jumpingmanjim posted:If Tony was a fighter pilot what would his nick name be? Flappy bird.
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duck monster posted:Flappy bird. Dongle.
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Lid posted:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XyJh3qKjSMk Jesus christ you can actually hear the testicles slapping against Sheridan's chin.
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I think the solution to stop the growing expense that is the age pension is to kill all baby boomers.
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http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/apr/23/begging-ban-perth-city-council-pushes-to-outlaw-beggars-in-city-centrequote:Begging ban: Perth city council pushes to outlaw beggars in city centre I didn't know begging was outlawed in those states. This law seems needlessly cruel to me
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Fight this. This is the first step on a road to trying to make being homeless a crime. They keep trying new methods out here, usually in the South, and it's never not despicable. There was a city, in South Carolina I think, that decided to make taking food from trash cans a crime.
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beetroy posted:An added benefit: we would probably see a change of government the following election. Not to mention the housing market would be flooded with properties and cause the price to plummet.
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Amethyst posted:http://www.theguardian.com/society/2014/apr/23/begging-ban-perth-city-council-pushes-to-outlaw-beggars-in-city-centre I knew it was banned in Vic but I always thought it was one of those laws that wasn't actively pursued, unless the cops were just wanting to move someone on for other reasons or just be arseholes. Which I guess means always. I guess it comes out of the old belief that begging, drugs and crime were linked which I think research has gone a long way to abolishing. Definitely a link between people and beg and who use drugs but whether or not the begging is due to drugs or their circumstance (eg homeless) is because of the drugs becomes rather complicated. A lot of recent research shows that the majority, ~90% of individuals begging, are sleeping rough or not in ideal circumstances (eg squat or overcrowded / illegal rooming houses) PILCH (now Justice Connect) wrote a paper calling to abolish the law in vic in Nov 2010.
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I haven't noticed the "no begging" laws really being enforced in the Brisbane CBD, even on Adelaide street--right in front of the police beat--where people will approach you at bus stops for money. So WA might bring these laws in, but if it's anything like Brisbane, the police would be wasting way too much time on getting these guys. I mean, it's not like they're going to get fine money from a homeless person. In any case, QLD police are too busy with the Bikie menace.
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Mithranderp posted:I haven't noticed the "no begging" laws really being enforced in the Brisbane CBD, even on Adelaide street--right in front of the police beat--where people will approach you at bus stops for money. So WA might bring these laws in, but if it's anything like Brisbane, the police would be wasting way too much time on getting these guys. I mean, it's not like they're going to get fine money from a homeless person. In any case, QLD police are too busy with the Bikie menace. Newman's probably confused as to why other states haven't caught on to the real cause of crime in Australia. I could totally see him "going tough" on homeless people here though, if he runs out of other bogeymen first (bikies, gangs, immigrants, old people, young people).
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CrazyTolradi posted:Newman's probably confused as to why other states haven't caught on to the real cause of crime in Australia. I could totally see him "going tough" on homeless people here though, if he runs out of other bogeymen first (bikies, gangs, immigrants, old people, young people). He'd never crack down on old people; they're his prime demographic.
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