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beanieson posted:that sounds like an interesting read but GODDAMN if that isn't one goofy looking motherfucker He looks exactly how I'd imagine a canadian cop would look.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:This is more of a law question but why the gently caress do they tack on extra years to life sentences? It make no loving sense. You're stuck there for life, why does adding 25 or 53 years to it matter? You would have to get one of the lawyers to answer, but I thought at one point at least in the state of Florida that a life sentence wasn't actually "until you die" but a set number of years, something vaguely retarded high like 70+ years. Theoretically you could live long enough to serve an entire life sentence. Which is why people were sentenced to multiple life sentences or life plus x years. I could be wrong on that though.
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Do cop goons think that there should be police reform? What sort of things would you like to see implemented?
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Miltank posted:Do cop goons think that there should be police reform? What sort of things would you like to see implemented? As an addition to the question do you think the Highway Patrol should actually report their crashes? Modest Mao posted:also:
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That FBI Journal is from 2002, by the way. Not sure anything has changed, nor am I doing your research for you, but people should really try to find info that's less than 10 years old.
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krispykremessuck posted:That FBI Journal is from 2002, by the way. Not sure anything has changed, nor am I doing your research for you, but people should really try to find info that's less than 10 years old. so, can any cops tell me if there have been big changes in police pursuit policy over the last ten years that result in less bystander fatalities?
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Apr 26, 2014 19:16
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Christmas Miracle posted:so, can any cops tell me if there have been big changes in police pursuit policy over the last ten years that result in less bystander fatalities? Well most departments just don't pursue anymore. Unless you're a known wanted felon, or fleeing an armed robbery or something chances are we'll just note the license plate, send a unit to your house and find out who's driving the vehicle. You run from the cops for a traffic violation or something similar you'll end up with a warrant out for your arrest but we won't chase you down.
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Apr 26, 2014 19:29
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Most of us can't chase for anything less than a violent felony (carjacking, robbery, etc). Car chase policies have become rather restrictive in the last few years.
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Apr 26, 2014 19:30
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We've always been told that we're one pursuit away from having pursuits completely banned here. Edit: Thankfully, we've been pursuit fatality free.
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Apr 26, 2014 19:32
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Oh right, I forgot to say Virginia isn't included in the restrictive chase policy thing. Those guys will chase you until you die. And leave traffic citations on your corpse.
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Apr 26, 2014 19:35
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Christmas Miracle posted:so, can any cops tell me if there have been big changes in police pursuit policy over the last ten years that result in less bystander fatalities? We don't pursue anymore unless there's a child in the car or something. And even then, it's only until a helicopter gets in the air. They tried to ban it unless an officer was assaulted and the suspect ran, but I guess guys were caught lying about the suspect almost hitting them or something. This all happened before my time, so I've always been under the "don't pursue" rule.
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Apr 26, 2014 20:08
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Whip Slagcheek posted:Most of us can't chase for anything less than a violent felony (carjacking, robbery, etc). Car chase policies have become rather restrictive in the last few years. Wait, so assuming oregon is like this, I could run from a cop trying to pull me over and actually get away?
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Apr 26, 2014 20:12
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There's a chance you'll find a police officer waiting for you at your house or a warrant out for you, but maybe? I don't know the chase policy for every police department in America, just the prevailing attitude towards them. 
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Apr 26, 2014 20:15
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Whip Slagcheek posted:Oh right, I forgot to say Virginia isn't included in the restrictive chase policy thing. Those guys will chase you until you die. We had one last night.  Whip Slagcheek posted:
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That's very interesting to hear. I'm taking it that California isn't one of those states considering we see videos of police chases in LA often enough.
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:That's very interesting to hear. I'm taking it that California isn't one of those states considering we see videos of police chases in LA often enough. not sure. There's aren't any LAPD goons afaik. I'm sure those videos show pursuits where the suspect was deemed dangerous enough to be worth chasing, whatever they're actual policy is.
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Like I said, I don't know the chase policy of every state. Around DC it's rather restrictive, but with helicopters and license plate readers you don't necessarily get away with it. All I need is to see your face and match it to the license database and I can just write out a warrant for flee to elude. Sure you got away with whatever you were running for (no license, drunk, drugs, whatever) but you'll still get arrested at some point.
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Apr 26, 2014 20:27
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in NC I don't even need to see your face, law allows me to take out warrants on the registered owner. Once I pull them in they'll rat out whoever was driving.
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Apr 26, 2014 20:51
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MP federal policy is no pursuits ever period, because we aren't technically qualified to do that and if it's one thing the army loves it's requiring courses for things. Last time I checked on them, RCMP and Quebec provincial police are formally trained and they'll happily chase you until dispatchers tell them to stop. Municipal police services generally won't pursue without a very compelling reason. It's much easier to just go to the registered owner's house and wait on his porch. An Ottawa cop was just cleared of wrongdoing for a pursuit that was aborted a few seconds after it started, but killed an innocent motorist anyway. Some yahoo was speeding through the heart of downtown, she saw him and made a u-turn to go pull him over, and when he took off she basically gave up because driving really fast down Laurier is an excellent way of guaranteeing you will kill somebody today.
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Apr 26, 2014 20:58
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flakeloaf posted:driving really fast down Laurier is an excellent way of guaranteeing you will kill somebody today. To be fair it's pretty much a guarantee someone is gonna die driving down Laurier either way.
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Apr 26, 2014 22:07
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Grem posted:We don't pursue anymore unless there's a child in the car or something. I mean that's got to be a pretty cool time for the kid but shouldn't you just drop them off somewhere safe first?
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Hitlers Gay Secret posted:That's very interesting to hear. I'm taking it that California isn't one of those states considering we see videos of police chases in LA often enough. it's almost like LAPD and other departments/states/jurisdictions should be judged individually
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Snowdens Secret posted:I mean that's got to be a pretty cool time for the kid but shouldn't you just drop them off somewhere safe first? Eagerly awaiting meowlins serious response to this 
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genderstomper58 posted:Eagerly awaiting meowlins serious response to this Nah because that joke was actually funny.
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genderstomper58 posted:Eagerly awaiting meowlins serious response to this Meowlins response to everything itt should be the ban hammer. Just, like, own it ya know?
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Apr 26, 2014 23:44
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Snowdens Secret posted:I mean that's got to be a pretty cool time for the kid but shouldn't you just drop them off somewhere safe first? There was a chase not too long ago in surrounding cities where a dude stole a car that had a kid in it. Kid was okay and the guy stole a different car after almost an hour of driving.
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Sioux falls police and highway patrol used to chase you till you died, but then they killed too many people that way and now they won't chase you for anything. My dept will still chase you till you die, but we haven't killed anyone yet.
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Miltank posted:Do cop goons think that there should be police reform? What sort of things would you like to see implemented? - Less managers, more leaders - More funding - More officers - Less politics - Better "Federation" - Better use of technology - Make me the boss of all the police in the UK so I can afford to buy a Lamborghini Aventador
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Miltank posted:Do cop goons think that there should be police reform? What sort of things would you like to see implemented? Hail Hydra
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For the campus cops: Sometimes large groups of students will gather in the parking lots of our residence halls while waiting to be taken to a party. When they get loud sometimes someone will call UPD on them to do something, but UPD never seems to do much. What would/can you do in this kind of situation where there is a large group of people bothering others just by their presence?
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DaNerd posted:For the campus cops: ... Are you an AU student? The reason I ask, I was just reading about this happening at their campus and the community complaining about the noise/booze/drugs/whatever.
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Apr 27, 2014 05:24
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DaNerd posted:For the campus cops: drive by slowly with the window down pretending to do something so the person who called in and is inevitably watching from their window doesn't call back in to complain about my lazy rear end.
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Whip Slagcheek posted:There's a chance you'll find a police officer waiting for you at your house or a warrant out for you, but maybe? I don't know the chase policy for every police department in America, just the prevailing attitude towards them. How far away can the license plate scanners get license plates? I mean, if they can't chase me and don't see my plates, good luck identifying my car (or at least well enough you can prove it in a court). I drive a stock '07 silver Mustang (yes I know it's enlisted as gently caress) and there are a buttfucking ton of them so...
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Branis posted:drive by slowly with the window down pretending to do something so the person who called in and is inevitably watching from their window doesn't call back in to complain about my lazy rear end. Yup
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USMC503 posted:How far away can the license plate scanners get license plates? I mean, if they can't chase me and don't see my plates, good luck identifying my car (or at least well enough you can prove it in a court). I drive a stock '07 silver Mustang (yes I know it's enlisted as gently caress) and there are a buttfucking ton of them so... a lot of times a cop will have read your plate on before he ever lights you up, so unless it is stolen you'll probably get caught.
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Whip Slagcheek posted:... Are you an AU student? The reason I ask, I was just reading about this happening at their campus and the community complaining about the noise/booze/drugs/whatever. Nope, I'm an RA in a college on Long Island and my RHDs love calling and encouraging us to call UPD for this kind of stuff. I never do because I figured it was a silly thing to call them for.
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DaNerd posted:Nope, I'm an RA in a college on Long Island and my RHDs love calling and encouraging us to call UPD for this kind of stuff. I never do because I figured it was a silly thing to call them for. It's probably not worth it until it becomes a problem and people start bitching. The incident I was referring to at American apparently has had assaults and all kinds of bizarre poo poo happening and the community is getting pissed off.
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Well, for all our liberal 'policing by consent' we will chase anything. As long as the pursuit driver has the appropriate level of training then they just keep going.
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Bernard McFacknutah posted:Well, for all our liberal 'policing by consent' we will chase anything. As long as the pursuit driver has the appropriate level of training then they just keep going. Unless you're in my force that has a 100% no pursuit policy in place!
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DrakeriderCa posted:I can say that in my entire experience carrying firearms, I have never once worried about shooting someone wrongfully. I'm very comfortable and confident in my ability to assess and use force, and although I realize that as a human being I'll never be perfect and I could make a mistake that ends somebody's life, it is such a remote possibility that I've never worried about it. I think I know what you're trying to say here, but I find this pretty disturbing. Even the most well trained officer should still have some worries about this. Thinking that a mistake or an accident or any number of factors that could crop up in the heat of the moment could definitely never happen to you is probably what every cop thinks before it actually does. It's a serious enough thing that I'd like to think you'd worried about it once or twice at least!
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