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Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Sindai posted:

In the best of all possible worlds, From Software does it with the same flare they did Metal Wolf Chaos. It then becomes the best-selling game of all time.
Pun intended?

Either way, you're right.

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Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
I don't know what you mean. It's been ages since I saw the LP, so I probably forgot something.

Samurai Sanders posted:

I meant the story. Regardless of the character, Basara 4 basically doesn't have one. You do stages in any old order and have mostly generic conversations with the officers, and then maybe in two stages per character you say something unique to them and yell a lot.
It has even less story than 3? That's a shame. I liked all the alternate paths 3 had.

Chortles
Dec 29, 2008

Tae posted:

They gave him a special sword, which I haven't seen before. Then Zhou Yun got that porn-stache that just about every character gets at some point and they all look stupid with it. Like, when Zhou Yu got the pornstatche, I had to keep reminding myself that's not Sun Ce.
The lore had Zhao Yun happening to kill Xiahou En, Cao Cao's swordbearer, at Changban, then recognize what he'd looted and use it as part of his breakout -- so if he had "a special sword" in the show, I figure that Zhao Yun just kept it ever since.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Sindai posted:

I don't know what you mean. It's been ages since I saw the LP, so I probably forgot something.
I think the word you're looking for is "flair", though there are lots of explosions and fire in MWC.

abagofcheetos
Oct 29, 2003

by FactsAreUseless

Samurai Sanders posted:

Everyone here does, but it won't happen since the Japanese don't care about that and they seem to be the only ones interested in making this genre of game.

Hah, so I looked up if Liberty or Death had a Japanese release (it did), and discovered it was designed by Stieg Hedlund, who happened to be a lead designer for Diablo, Diablo 2 and Star Craft :stare:

And he was going to collaborate with David Lynch on a video game :stare: :stare:

Pureauthor
Jul 8, 2010

ASK ME ABOUT KISSING A GHOST

Sindai posted:

In the best of all possible worlds, From Software does it with the same flare they did Metal Wolf Chaos. It then becomes the best-selling game of all time.

The problem is that the From Software dudes claimed the reason localization of Metal Wolf Chaos didn't happen is that they thought Americans would be offended.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Pureauthor posted:

The problem is that the From Software dudes claimed the reason localization of Metal Wolf Chaos didn't happen is that they thought Americans would be offended.
They might have been right. Your enemy is the US army and some Americans get all crazy in that situation. Probably not a heavy crossover with people who would actually buy the game, but since when do you have to buy a game to complain about it?

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Samurai Sanders posted:

They might have been right. Your enemy is the US army and some Americans get all crazy in that situation. Probably not a heavy crossover with people who would actually buy the game, but since when do you have to buy a game to complain about it?

Which is hilarious, considering one of the US' best selling games of all time spends its entire last act shooting the US Army. Sure, people did complain about that game but it definitely had nothing to do with that.

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

You wanna get through this?
Aw, that's a shame Basara 4 has less story than 3. Had a lot of fun punching dudes as hoodie Tokugawa and shooting rockets as Magoichi, and was hoping for more. :(

Zanna
Oct 9, 2012

Pureauthor posted:

The problem is that the From Software dudes claimed the reason localization of Metal Wolf Chaos didn't happen is that they thought Americans would be offended.

I had heard that it was because of legal issues regarding the use of the seal of the Oval Office.

5er
Jun 1, 2000


The best side effect for me of Sengoku Basara 3 was it taught my then-5 year old son that Ishida Mitsunari REALLY hates Tokugawa Ieyasu.

Magil of Shadow
Dec 28, 2009

Proposal: Form a friendly relationship immediately.

"You have GOT to be kidding me"

On the topic of Basara, me and the cousin who got me into the Warriors series to begin with were talking about it and the Samurai Warriors series a few weeks ago, and I brought up the ultimate hypothetical dream 'Warriors' game for me, a crossover between the two franchises.


He brought up a point though, that the two series might not be able to keep up with one another, where I offered that the Samurai cast might be slower, yet able to take more hits, and the Basara cast might be more Glass Cannon like, due to the overall 'speed' of the Basara games.


That seem to make sense, in such a scenario? Or, in other words, I suppose I'm asking for the thread's thoughts and ideas on how 'balancing' such a concept would work out.

Policenaut
Jul 11, 2008

On the moon... they don't make Neo Kobe Pizza.

Samurai Sanders posted:

I meant the story. Regardless of the character, Basara 4 basically doesn't have one. You do stages in any old order and have mostly generic conversations with the officers, and then maybe in two stages per character you say something unique to them and yell a lot.

Wow, this sounds bad. Wasn't Capcom really talking up the whole prequel angle before 4 came out? I figured it would have a bigger story like 3/3 Utage had but this sounds awful.

Samurai Sanders
Nov 4, 2003

Pillbug

Policenaut posted:

Wow, this sounds bad. Wasn't Capcom really talking up the whole prequel angle before 4 came out? I figured it would have a bigger story like 3/3 Utage had but this sounds awful.
It's not a prequel really, it's Ashikaga Yoshiaki organizing some kind of Street Fighter-like tournament to choose his successor, or something.

Golden Goat
Aug 2, 2012

Magil of Shadow posted:

He brought up a point though, that the two series might not be able to keep up with one another, where I offered that the Samurai cast might be slower, yet able to take more hits, and the Basara cast might be more Glass Cannon like, due to the overall 'speed' of the Basara games.


That seem to make sense, in such a scenario? Or, in other words, I suppose I'm asking for the thread's thoughts and ideas on how 'balancing' such a concept would work out.

You're thinking too much about a pair of games that boil down to Hit square, Kill all the dudes, Have fun. A crossover would be cool though and they can easily change the casts to fit one another.

blitzkreig.bmp
Aug 7, 2008

Rottin' and Rollin'
Stupid question but...I bought DW8XL for PS3 thinking it was the complete edition, can I just rent DW8 to unlock the rest? Does it need an online code, etc.?

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter
Yeah if you can find a copy to rent or borrow you can unlock it like that.

PunkBoy
Aug 22, 2008

You wanna get through this?

Golden Goat posted:

You're thinking too much about a pair of games that boil down to Hit square, Kill all the dudes, Have fun. A crossover would be cool though and they can easily change the casts to fit one another.

I would be down with seeing Warriors Magoichi get (literally) shot down by Basara Magoichi.

Magil of Shadow
Dec 28, 2009

Proposal: Form a friendly relationship immediately.

"You have GOT to be kidding me"

blitzkreig.bmp posted:

Stupid question but...I bought DW8XL for PS3 thinking it was the complete edition, can I just rent DW8 to unlock the rest? Does it need an online code, etc.?

You can, but you'd lose out on the content after a few days, as it needs to revalidate the disc every few days.

Lunethex
Feb 4, 2013

Me llamo Sarah Brandolino, the eighth Castilian of this magnificent marriage.
Orochi 3 Ultimate got rated in Australia. Could mean it's westbound after all!

blitzkreig.bmp
Aug 7, 2008

Rottin' and Rollin'

Magil of Shadow posted:

You can, but you'd lose out on the content after a few days, as it needs to revalidate the disc every few days.

Ahh, thanks that's exactly what I was wondering.

Jibo
May 22, 2007

Bear Witness
College Slice

Magil of Shadow posted:

You can, but you'd lose out on the content after a few days, as it needs to revalidate the disc every few days.

I thought that was for DW7 but not DW8. If not I'm in for a rude surprise since I left home for six months and didn't grab the disc. :saddowns:

Magil of Shadow
Dec 28, 2009

Proposal: Form a friendly relationship immediately.

"You have GOT to be kidding me"

Lunethex posted:

Orochi 3 Ultimate got rated in Australia. Could mean it's westbound after all!

Well gently caress.


I just bought Orochi 3 about two weeks ago.


Anyone here play the Japanese version, and if so, can you port your saves and poo poo from Orochi 3?

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
I just beat all the main story missions and on the last one I started getting the message that I ran out of space to pick up new weapons. I sold a bunch to make room. Do I ever get to do anything useful with all my gold?

5-Headed Snake God
Jun 12, 2008

Do you see how he's a cat?


Ambition Mode has a few uses for your money, mostly in the form of buying stat increases.

Chachi
Jan 7, 2006
Blue sparks and big fucking shells.

:dukedog:
Early on you can also use cash at the barracks to get weapon materials that you can convert into facility materials at the merchant.

zarron
Sep 1, 2005

Maleketh posted:

Ambition Mode has a few uses for your money, mostly in the form of buying stat increases.

Also you can make a much better weapons than the majority of 5/6 star weapons you have to do missions for.

Chachi
Jan 7, 2006
Blue sparks and big fucking shells.

:dukedog:

zarron posted:

Also you can make a much better weapons than the majority of 5/6 star weapons you have to do missions for.

Is there a trick to this or what, because as near as I can tell the starting point for the process is something along the lines of "pray you get a totally blank lv4 weapon" and then you go from there.

Sindai
Jan 24, 2007
i want to achieve immortality through not dying
I'm trying to unlock Lu Bu's alternate story path. I did the optional objectives for the two missions that have them, but nothing changed in the branching mission. What am I missing?

EDIT: Nevermind, there's a third star on a side mission I need to unlock first. If a mission has more than one star objective, can you play it multiple times and get one each time or do you need to do them all at once?

Sindai fucked around with this message at 05:53 on Apr 30, 2014

Fauxtool
Oct 21, 2008

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
whats the deal with the starred weapons? I have a couple of 2 stars and 3 stars. the damage isnt any better but the attributes like "jolt" have much higher numbers next to them.

Fauxtool fucked around with this message at 06:28 on Apr 30, 2014

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

More-starred weapons will end up with higher attack once you max out their proficiency. Big single star weapons start out hideously bad and end up extremely strong.

The attributes are more likely to have bigger numbers at their start on higher level weapons but it's not a sure thing.

Yardbomb
Jul 11, 2011

What's with the eh... bretonnian dance, sir?

This is probably a dumb question, but I got DW8 the other day and just picked up/am downloading XL because why not, so do I just play off XL from now on for the full package?

The GIG
Jun 28, 2011

Yeah, I say "Shit" a shit-ton of times. What of it, shithead?

Stelas posted:

More-starred weapons will end up with higher attack once you max out their proficiency. Big single star weapons start out hideously bad and end up extremely strong.

The attributes are more likely to have bigger numbers at their start on higher level weapons but it's not a sure thing.

You're thinking of Warriors Orochi there. Starred weapons in 8 are just semi unique weapons that have a few abilities that are set to be really high.

Stelas
Sep 6, 2010

Well, poo poo. Standardize your stuff, Koei! :v:

Palleon
Aug 11, 2003

I've got a hot deal on a bridge to the Pegasus Galaxy!
Grimey Drawer

Sindai posted:

I'm trying to unlock Lu Bu's alternate story path. I did the optional objectives for the two missions that have them, but nothing changed in the branching mission. What am I missing?

EDIT: Nevermind, there's a third star on a side mission I need to unlock first. If a mission has more than one star objective, can you play it multiple times and get one each time or do you need to do them all at once?

If you get a star objective, it gets saved so you can replay it again to get other ones. This is actually a requirement for Wei and Shu, one mission for each of them requires you to do one thing, and the other star objective is a mutually exclusive objective, it's impossible to get both in one playthrough.

King Geedorah
Apr 29, 2014

Mmm delicious rap snitch knishes
What're our thoughts on the DW Empires games?

I've only ever played 4 and 6 when it comes to Empires, but I thought 6 was pretty terrible compared to 4. Are any others worth it?

The GIG
Jun 28, 2011

Yeah, I say "Shit" a shit-ton of times. What of it, shithead?
I've been playing 7 Empires a lot and it's pretty fun, though most of the fun comes from the creation mode and the strategy part is only kinda alright. They're fun changes of pace but it really feels like Omega Force knows they could do more but are afraid to pull the trigger on anything really complex.

TARDISman
Oct 28, 2011



Yardbomb posted:

This is probably a dumb question, but I got DW8 the other day and just picked up/am downloading XL because why not, so do I just play off XL from now on for the full package?

Yup, essentially XL is a normal DW game with extra stuff slapped on top of it like a fresh layer of wallpaper.

Karasu Tengu
Feb 16, 2011

Humble Tengu Newspaper Reporter

The GIG posted:

I've been playing 7 Empires a lot and it's pretty fun, though most of the fun comes from the creation mode and the strategy part is only kinda alright. They're fun changes of pace but it really feels like Omega Force knows they could do more but are afraid to pull the trigger on anything really complex.

This makes me wonder why they haven't tried to combine Romance of the Three Kingdoms with Dynasty Warriors for the Empire games. A proper strategy side, then also letting you lead the battle on foot instead of basic commands.

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Bloodly
Nov 3, 2008

Not as strong as you'd expect.
But then the troops would have to actually be useful whilst on-screen, which doesn't fly with current Dynasty Warriors where they're basically mindless barely-attacking 'why are you even here'.

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