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Dagen H
Mar 19, 2009

Hogertrafikomlaggningen

KillHour posted:

I'm looking for a front wheel spoke set for a Suzuki 1977 gs400 xb (with the drum brake, not the rotor). I've been looking everywhere, and I can't find a set for sale or even the measurements.

The default answer to rim/spoke questions is "ask Buchanan's", with the caveat that their services can get spendy.

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Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Buchanans can make any custom size spoke you need. I'd check first to see if the spokes were used on any other more common suzuki first. If suzuki sold the spokes separately you should be able to cross reference.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


I know the OEM part was 55300-44810, but because of the drat drum brake they're a weird size, and the part is discontinued. Can Buchanan's figure out the size I need? I don't have a set to measure.

Edit: damnit, they want me to ship them the wheel and hub. That's going to cost a fortune. Any other ideas?

KillHour fucked around with this message at 17:52 on Apr 26, 2014

Bugdrvr
Mar 7, 2003

This set just sold on the 11th

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-GS400-1977-78-nos-oem-Front-spoke-set-p-n-55300-44810-/171274703431

I'd contact the seller and see if he has any more. He's got every other NOS Suzuki part it seems like.

KillHour
Oct 28, 2007


Bugdrvr posted:

This set just sold on the 11th

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Suzuki-GS400-1977-78-nos-oem-Front-spoke-set-p-n-55300-44810-/171274703431

I'd contact the seller and see if he has any more. He's got every other NOS Suzuki part it seems like.

Yeah, that's Paul from Miller's Vintage. I sent him an email earlier today. Hopefully he has something.

http://www.millersvintage.com/

Schroeder91
Jul 5, 2007

My friend wants to go for a ride on my bike. She's a little thing but I'm a big mother fucker and combined were 50 over the weight limit before gear. Will this be ok on my CBR500R?

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

I wouldn't, I've done this on an SV650 and the rear tyre ended up rubbing against the stone shield thing under the tail section.

Odette
Mar 19, 2011

Obviously you put smaller tyres on then, so it doesn't rub on anything! :v:

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

Odette posted:

Obviously you put smaller tyres on then, so it doesn't rub on anything! :v:

Listen to this man.

Schroeder91
Jul 5, 2007

I don't know what a stone shield thing is. I don't have a rear tire hugger if that's what you're talking about.

Shimrod
Apr 15, 2007

race tires on road are a great idea, ask me!

Just test it out before you go, if your combined weight pushes the rear of the bike down too much I'd pass on it, or crank the rear pre-load up as high as I could and try again.

Slavvy
Dec 11, 2012

It's the plastic underside of the tail section. On many bikes, bottoming out the rear suspension with too much load/too big a passenger + rider combo makes the tyre touch it while you ride/go over bumps. As shimrod says, crank up the preload all the way before attempting it.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Schroeder91 posted:

My friend wants to go for a ride on my bike. She's a little thing but I'm a big mother fucker and combined were 50 over the weight limit before gear. Will this be ok on my CBR500R?

Yeah you should be ok, just don't go jumping the thing.

Schroeder91
Jul 5, 2007

Ok. We'll try next weekend and see how it goes. I had the preload adjusted already for me, I don't know what it's on currently and my bike didn't come with the tool. I'll see if I can get the shop to adjust it for me while I wait for the tool to come in. The roads are pretty good here, but I had intended to do a ride outside of town through a kinda curvy and up and down road. Why must I be so big :sigh: c'mon diet!!

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
Even with a small pillion the weight will be shifted far back and so the bike will handle strangely; specifically the front will want to push real bad and the bike won't like to turn. Be sure to work your way into it, don't just slam into the twisties first thing.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm
I rode two up for the first time a couple of nights ago... it didn't feel that weird other than the front wanting to come up even easier and braking being the most severely affected thing. Corners were fine but it was just high speed sweepers.

Razzled
Feb 3, 2011

MY HARLEY IS COOL
Dudes, how do people afford new bikes?? What the hell lol, I've been getting quotes around $1400 for 12 months for full coverage (300k CSL BI + UM and 1k deductible on collision and comp) for a 2014 DRZ400sm

Googling around people are posting about like 200-300 for brand new ones this poo poo is nuts

Safety Dance
Sep 10, 2007

Five degrees to starboard!

Get a little bit of claim-free riding experience under your belt, and your insurance rates will go down. They're protecting themselves against Sammy Squid who rides off the lot in a brand new Gixxer right into a bus.

Snowdens Secret
Dec 29, 2008
Someone got you a obnoxiously racist av.
Age, location, driving record, whether you have your full license or not, whether it's going on the same policy as your car. A 2014 DRZ SM is also an $8k bike to insure, which is a good bit more than your usual $2500 learner Ninjette.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

Razzled posted:

Dudes, how do people afford new bikes?? What the hell lol, I've been getting quotes around $1400 for 12 months for full coverage (300k CSL BI + UM and 1k deductible on collision and comp) for a 2014 DRZ400sm

Googling around people are posting about like 200-300 for brand new ones this poo poo is nuts

I pay something retarded like $1200 for state minimums (liability only) on a GSXR750... don't even get me started. I need to shop insurance but I've been lazy. $100/mo for the GSXR750, $80/mo for the 91 318is, and another $160/mo for Aetna healthcare. Woooo.

BlackMK4 fucked around with this message at 16:04 on Apr 28, 2014

RadioPassive
Feb 26, 2012

BlackMK4 posted:

I pay something retarded like $1200 for state minimums (liability only) on a GSXR750... don't even get me started.

What the hell? State minimum liability on that Buell I was asking about a few pages back is costing me $95 per year.

Is that just because "lol who can do damage with a Buell" or is that the difference between our two states and driving records?

Outside Dawg
Feb 24, 2013
Age and location can have an awful lot to do with it, I pay 19.98 a month for full coverage on a 2001 HD Ultra (Dresser). But this being Montana we have a limited riding season and being 52 helps a bit as well I imagine.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

RadioPassive posted:

What the hell? State minimum liability on that Buell I was asking about a few pages back is costing me $95 per year.

Is that just because "lol who can do damage with a Buell" or is that the difference between our two states and driving records?

There are a lot of factors that go into it - sometimes, though, insurance companies don't want to deal with bikes and rather than simply saying that (they are legally obligated to offer anyone a quote, for obvious reasons) they just sky high the prices.

A few years of riding experience and that number will go way down, I think I'm paying ~400 bucks a year for full coverage on my 675. But I'm also married, don't live in a high crime area, clean driving record (although I do have a stolen bike claim on record...), blah blah blah.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Outside Dawg posted:

But this being Montana we have a limited riding season and being 52 helps a bit as well I imagine.

lol. When I got my license in Ontario, and the liability-only insurance for a new rider (age 25) on a 40 year old 350cc bike was $1800 a year, I asked them what would happen if I only got coverage for the summer months and if that would save any money. "Oh, no, we already factor in that you won't be riding for half the year. If you could ride year round it would be much more expensive."

Also lol at it being cheaper for being 52. While they probably do actually discount it for your age right now, in recent years the demographic that has the most accidents on motorcycles turns out to be 45-60 year old baby boomers trying to reclaim their youth without being able to reclaim their eyesight or reflexes.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Z3n posted:

(they are legally obligated to offer anyone a quote, for obvious reasons)

Huh? If they don't want to deal with motorcycles, or certain motorcycles, they can always say "we don't insure vehicles of that type/age/displacement/body style." Happened to me in Canada at least when two of three possible insurance companies just said outright they wouldn't insure me for liability on a 40 year old vehicle.

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard

Sagebrush posted:

two of three possible insurance companies just said outright they wouldn't insure me for liability on a 40 year old vehicle.

This blows my mind, how much damage could you even do with an old 350?

Militant Lesbian
Oct 3, 2002

Sagebrush posted:

Happened to me in Canada

Gonna highlight the obvious thing wrong with this post.

Outside Dawg
Feb 24, 2013

Sagebrush posted:

lol. When I got my license in Ontario, and the liability-only insurance for a new rider (age 25) on a 40 year old 350cc bike was $1800 a year, I asked them what would happen if I only got coverage for the summer months and if that would save any money. "Oh, no, we already factor in that you won't be riding for half the year. If you could ride year round it would be much more expensive."

Also lol at it being cheaper for being 52. While they probably do actually discount it for your age right now, in recent years the demographic that has the most accidents on motorcycles turns out to be 45-60 year old baby boomers trying to reclaim their youth without being able to reclaim their eyesight or reflexes.

They actually do factor in the shortened riding season, the agent monkeyed around with the quote to show me what it would cost if I were living in Arizona, it came out to about $60 a month. As for "boomers" trying to recapture our youth, while there are definitely some that are, an awful lot of us got that "hey watch this" crap out of our systems already. I imagine being accident free, no citations for doing stupid poo poo like some of the kids do, helps a bit as well.

Disclaimer: I credit the last bit there with riding since I was 12 and getting all the "stupid" out my system in the dirt, instead on the street with a high performance bullet bike like a lot of kids these days.

karms
Jan 22, 2006

by Nyc_Tattoo
Yam Slacker
Is it legal to ride around without insurance in the united states?

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
Some places, yeah. Washington state is one.

Guinness
Sep 15, 2004

clutchpuck posted:

Some places, yeah. Washington state is one.

Only for motorcycles, though. Cars and trucks still require insurance.

Incidentally, motorcycle insurance is pretty loving cheap in WA and you'd be silly not to carry it. 500k liability, 250k un/underinsured, and $50 deductible comprehensive costs me like $300/year through State Farm and they definitely are not the cheapest. Collision on my 650R would have been another ~$300/year but since the bike is only worth 3-4k I skipped collision.

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

Sagebrush posted:

Huh? If they don't want to deal with motorcycles, or certain motorcycles, they can always say "we don't insure vehicles of that type/age/displacement/body style." Happened to me in Canada at least when two of three possible insurance companies just said outright they wouldn't insure me for liability on a 40 year old vehicle.

It's to prevent discrimination, basically - make sure that if a company offers, say, motorcycle insurance to some customers of theirs, they can't refuse to offer it to others. They can amp up the rates to compensate for their lack of proper analysis or whatever, but they can't just randomly refuse to insure some people on some vehicles. It's not perfect, but it's better than the alternative (CANADA!)

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard

Guinness posted:

Only for motorcycles, though. Cars and trucks still require insurance.

Incidentally, motorcycle insurance is pretty loving cheap in WA and you'd be silly not to carry it. 500k liability, 250k un/underinsured, and $50 deductible comprehensive costs me like $300/year through State Farm and they definitely are not the cheapest. Collision on my 650R would have been another ~$300/year but since the bike is only worth 3-4k I skipped collision.

I keyed off the word "ride" and assumed we were talking motorcycles.

But yeah insurance is so cheap here it's a no-brainer. My Ulysses costs double what the Vstar did to insure for liability/comp/collision and I still consider it to be almost free.

Sagebrush
Feb 26, 2012

Z3n posted:

It's to prevent discrimination, basically - make sure that if a company offers, say, motorcycle insurance to some customers of theirs, they can't refuse to offer it to others. They can amp up the rates to compensate for their lack of proper analysis or whatever, but they can't just randomly refuse to insure some people on some vehicles. It's not perfect, but it's better than the alternative (CANADA!)

No, I still don't think this is true. Of course if they offer insurance to, say, a white person on their 2007 Sportster 883 they have to offer it to a black person who comes up to them with a 2007 Sportster 883 as well, because race is a protected class. But they certainly don't have to offer insurance to a person of any ethnicity who has 10 speeding tickets, even if they also have a 2007 Sportster 883. And they don't have to offer insurance at all to people who come up to them with a GSX-R1000 if they don't want to.

Maybe some companies jack up the rates like crazy ("sure, Mr. Leadfoot, we'll insure your Sportster but it'll cost you $10,000 a year") but I don't think there's any law saying the company has to provide insurance to someone when the confounding factor is something they control (type of motorcycle, number of tickets, etc).

*what is the motorcycle equivalent of leadfoot? gorillawrist or something?

clutchpuck
Apr 30, 2004
ro-tard
I'm pretty sure what happens is the insurance companies submit their qualification and premium schedules to the state's insurance commisioner's office, who can approve or deny their requirements and costs. This is why you can't go and negotiate the cost of your insurance with one company; you fall into their actuarial tables, which presumably have already gone past the insurance commission, where you fall.

epswing
Nov 4, 2003

Soiled Meat
Somewhat related: here's a list of bikes that Jevco does not insure in Ontario: http://www.gtamotorcycle.com/vbforum/showthread.php?153723-2012-Jevco-prohibited-bike-list-John-R-Duffy-Insurance :v:

Z3n
Jul 21, 2007

I think the point is Z3n is a space cowboy on the edge of a frontier unknown to man, he's out there pushing the limits, trail braking into the abyss. Finding out where the edge of the razor is, turning to face the darkness and revving his 690 into it's vast gaze. You gotta live this to learn it bro.

clutchpuck posted:

I'm pretty sure what happens is the insurance companies submit their qualification and premium schedules to the state's insurance commisioner's office, who can approve or deny their requirements and costs. This is why you can't go and negotiate the cost of your insurance with one company; you fall into their actuarial tables, which presumably have already gone past the insurance commission, where you fall.

Yeah, I'd imagine this is the more nuanced, correct answer. I didn't dig into the details when my insurance agent talked about it, just took his word for it.

Collateral Damage
Jun 13, 2009

Sagebrush posted:

Maybe some companies jack up the rates like crazy ("sure, Mr. Leadfoot, we'll insure your Sportster but it'll cost you $10,000 a year") but I don't think there's any law saying the company has to provide insurance to someone when the confounding factor is something they control (type of motorcycle, number of tickets, etc).
The insurance company where I have my home insurance does this. They quoted me about €1850 per year to insure my ER6-F/650R, and I'm not even in a high risk age group. They're making it blatantly obvious that they don't want to insure motorcycles at all.

The company I'm using now charges me just under €500 per year for comprehensive including roadside assistance.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Collateral Damage posted:

The insurance company where I have my home insurance does this. They quoted me about €1850 per year to insure my ER6-F/650R, and I'm not even in a high risk age group. They're making it blatantly obvious that they don't want to insure motorcycles at all.

The company I'm using now charges me just under €500 per year for comprehensive including roadside assistance.

I've seen quotes of >£2000 on price comparison sites from companies that claim to be motorcycle insurance specialists when the cheapest quote, around £300, is from a company that doesn't even advertise that it does bike insurance.

I don't know if it's them screwing up something in their algorithms (and playing around with different bikes and even different riders and addresses yields no sane quotes from them), or they figure they'll make enough profit from the one person in a thousand who never rings round and just picks their name at random, or if it's actually an elaborate front for a money-laundering operation, but it makes no bloody sense to me.

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Finger Prince
Jan 5, 2007


clutchpuck posted:

I'm pretty sure what happens is the insurance companies submit their qualification and premium schedules to the state's insurance commisioner's office, who can approve or deny their requirements and costs. This is why you can't go and negotiate the cost of your insurance with one company; you fall into their actuarial tables, which presumably have already gone past the insurance commission, where you fall.

It's a bit of both in ontario. You've got mandatory insurance, which means if you've got a dui and ten tickets and somehow still have a license, somebody has to insure you. It's called 'facility' and is a government controlled scheme with very strict rules, and very high rates. But everyone else who isn't a facility insurer can charge what they like (within much looser guidelines or limits) to whatever customers they choose. So you get Grey Power or whatever it's called catering to elderly customers with clean records, and you just try getting a good rate from them if you're 21, to motorbike specific insurers who won't insure your car, and everything else in between. And no "compare the meerkat" comparison sites to make picking easier.
(insurance is something Britain does very well, go figure)

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