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I'm only mentioning this because the Cain story was part of my assignment this week for my Classics class. The excerpt that was in my book eludes to Cain being immortal and to a punishment for anyone who attempts to kill/ kill Cain. So is Dean now immortal and shouldn't those who try to kill him be killed/ punished?
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# ? Apr 27, 2014 11:02 |
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Eh... I think that was the punishment FOR Cain, not the mark. I think the mark was separate. It was basically a warning of "DO NOT gently caress WITH THIS GUY". He gave Dean the mark (I dunno if it transferred or if he can give it out like a mobile tattoo kinda thing), but he still hosed up tons of demons in his house if he DIDN'T have the mark anymore. Dude's hardcore. I think the "price" it comes with is that he's becoming kill happy (LOOK AT ME BITCH), but it could also mean that he's going to ask Dean to ace him, and that means the curse is gonna gently caress Sam up hardcore. Wasn't it something like a 7 fold punishment for killing him? Knowing the show though, Dean discovers Zoloft in the first episode and we never speak of it again, much like Casweh.
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# ? Apr 27, 2014 14:38 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:
How so?
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# ? Apr 28, 2014 06:51 |
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Well, not sure which one you are referring to, but the price he's paid so far for the mark has been a major league ramp up in aggression. He's sort of become the Dean Hulk. Less caring, less happy, more like Season 5 "gently caress it" Dean but with a temper. As far as the curse goes, if it's a seven fold on you and your family, then Sam's the only family he has left. Cas is sort of family but everyone else is toast (sorry mom). If Dean harms/kills Cain (as the curse goes), he's gonna get Godsmacked with that curse and it's going to affect him and Sam. If it's just seven fold on whoever harms/kills Cain, then just Dean will get hosed up. Depends on the interpretation of it I reckon. Aren't there like 3 episodes left in the season?
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# ? Apr 28, 2014 07:14 |
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Stupid_Sexy_Flander posted:Well, not sure which one you are referring to, but the price he's paid so far for the mark has been a major league ramp up in aggression. He's sort of become the Dean Hulk. Less caring, less happy, more like Season 5 "gently caress it" Dean but with a temper. Counting tonight there are four. e: Supposedly these are the plot synopses for the next three (including tonight) : quote:"Bloodlines" quote:"King of the Damned" quote:"Stairway to Heaven" And the season finale is titled "Do You Believe in Miracles". computer parts fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Apr 29, 2014 |
# ? Apr 29, 2014 15:17 |
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Time to see how bad the spinoff is going to be.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:05 |
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This doesn't even feel like a Supernatural episode. Feels like I'm watching some other show that Sam and Dean cameoed in. I knew this was a backdoor pilot, but I didn't know it would feel so far removed.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:10 |
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This doesn't even feel like the Supernatural universe.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:13 |
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Can we skip to the part where Sam and Dean kill them all.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:15 |
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I'm pretty sure this is a yet another spinoff of The Vampire Diaries. Or possibly something vaguely related to The Dresden Files. It sure as poo poo doesn't feel like it has anything to do with Supernatural.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:15 |
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Holy poo poo I'm waiting for a scene with Sam or Dean in it and its been like ten minutes now...
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:16 |
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There we go. Hopefully we get back to the Winchesters for the rest of this shitstorm.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:17 |
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legoman727 posted:There we go. Hopefully we get back to the Winchesters for the rest of this shitstorm. I'm waiting for Sam and Dean to get CGI pulled off screen and a message about how they are returning back to their home planet.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:20 |
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They tricked me into watching the pilot for this show and it kinda pisses me off.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:25 |
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Lol I live in Chicago you monsters are doing a horrible job keeping the peace.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:26 |
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They Changed Channels again, in a bad way.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:29 |
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Ah so this is the backdoor pilot. Feels kind of like Angel right now, esp with all the different monsters having a go-to bar at the beginning.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:30 |
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This could be an interesting show. This is not a Supernatural show. They're breaking the rules of the monsters to make them work in the show, for starters. Werewolves that control their changes, Shifters that don't shed when they change... They wanted another paranormal show, and they're trying to rope in the established Supernatural crowd. I think it's doomed for failure. If the show's lore and feel need to change this much, they should have launched it as a stand-alone show, not as a spin-off.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:30 |
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Yeah, this has nothing to do with the Supernatural versions of anything. And I love how Sam and Dean are immediately accepting of "good guy" monsters, even though both of them are NEVER on the same page about that.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:46 |
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Nope, I was wrong, it's trash.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:53 |
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Well this was a lovely episode.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:57 |
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From now on whenever anybody debates the worst episode of Supernatural, they will have to preface it with "obviously lets put aside that ridiculous spin-off bullshit".
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 02:59 |
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Basebf555 posted:From now on whenever anybody debates the worst episode of Supernatural, they will have to preface it with "obviously lets put aside that ridiculous spin-off bullshit". I dunno, the bugs were pretty loving bad, and that racist truck... No, you're right, this managed to top them all in shittiness.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 03:01 |
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Byers2142 posted:I dunno, the bugs were pretty loving bad, and that racist truck... Yeah, the "Bugs, racist truck" now has been eclipsed by this. The show doesn't even look that good, it's like they tried to cross Vampire Diaries with Supernatural without realizing what makes each show work.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 03:38 |
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Yeah that was really loving bad. I can't imagine the spinoff doing well at all.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 03:40 |
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I haven't paid attention for the longest time but I really thought the spinoff was supposed to be Chicago in the 20s with Elliot Ness hunting monsters. Now finding out what its supposed to be I don't give a gently caress at all. It's going to be hot garbage and apparently won't even bother sticking to the loosely established monster lore for Supernatural.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 03:49 |
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The entire god drat spinoff is going to be "if Sam and Dean were here, they'd just murder them all". How would anyone think this is a good idea?
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 03:50 |
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legoman727 posted:Time to see how bad the spinoff is going to be. Turns out: loving hideous Not only do I have negative reverse anti-desire to watch the spinoff, I think they owe us an extra episode where Sam and Dean go back to Chicago and slaughter the whole monster mafia to make the spinoff absolutely unquestionably out of continuity.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 04:03 |
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McSpanky posted:Turns out: loving hideous
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 04:23 |
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Fast Luck posted:They can do this after Bloodlines gets canceled. I hope they spare the nice werewolf lady, though, she's pretty. Reading all of your reactions, kind of put into perspective that episode with the werewolfs afew seasons back. I was sure that it was a set up for the crazy adventures of a teenage lady werewolf.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 04:32 |
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McSpanky posted:Turns out: loving hideous Even better; let Death wipe Chicago off the map in Season 5, saves us from this. It's the only way to be sure.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 04:53 |
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I can not wait to not watch more of that. I know others said it but that did not feel anything like supernatural. Just going to pretend it didn't happen and there is no other show.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 04:59 |
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I'm kinda wondering why CW thinks they need another "The Originals" in Chicago while disregarding all Supernatural lore. THIS was the best they could come up with? If they want to do a spinoff, do a period piece with The Men Of Letters.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 05:05 |
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It's kind of funny how the Shapeshifter sister was literally Lara Raith but with a different name.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 05:20 |
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Eh, they had at least one compelling character in Susan.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 05:29 |
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Fast Luck posted:They can do this after Bloodlines gets canceled. I hope they spare the nice werewolf lady, though, she's pretty. gently caress that, I hope they team up with Castiel, Garth, and who ever else is still around on their side and spend the entire episode just kicking in doors, cutting off heads and vaporizing monsters. Speaking of, didn't Crowley destroy most of the monster populations when he was looking for Alphas? How did entire clans/families of Chicago avoid that?
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 05:43 |
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That was just terrible. Bad acting, insufferable characters, stupid story. I hope the Winchesters wipe Chicago from the map. Fill Castiel full of Leviathans and let him get to work.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 05:47 |
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computer parts posted:It's kind of funny how the Shapeshifter sister was literally Lara Raith but with a different name. Really? Lara was always written as subtle and uber-intelligent, having multiple plots within plots. Shapeshifter chick seemed pretty transparent with a one-track mind. Other than being the family power behind a disabled dad, I don't see the comparison. e: beaten by a landslide but what a lovely episode.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 06:09 |
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I thought I was watching Pretty Little Liars for a minute at the beginning considering at least two of those guys were cops on PLL and the guy who used to play Kol on The Vampire Diaries (David in this episode) was recently on PLL too.
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# ? Apr 30, 2014 06:23 |
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Stabitha posted:I thought I was watching Pretty Little Liars for a minute at the beginning considering at least two of those guys were cops on PLL. Gotta secret can ya keep it swear this one you'll save... I've been out of town for two weeks and have missed the last two episodes. I'm sad to see the general reaction to the spinoff being so negative, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised.
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