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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Well I finally got aroudn to watching Jamie rape Cersie (been moving), and I have to say, I expected worse, given the outrage all over the internet. My wife agreed that it was pretty tame. You guys sound like you have fun. It was pretty cool seeing things like Darth Maul and not knowing what the gently caress it was really about. Not sure about his design, though.
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Me: "Well, as tastefully as a crippled child-murderer can gently caress his sister in a church on top of their murdered son." It was attempted child murder, tyvm.
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Apr 30, 2014 12:02
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Well I finally got aroudn to watching Jamie rape Cersie (been moving), and I have to say, I expected worse, given the outrage all over the internet. My wife agreed that it was pretty tame. Can your wife tell us precisely how you tastefully rape someone?
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Apr 30, 2014 12:27
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rypakal posted:Can your wife tell us precisely how you tastefully rape someone? No, but I believe these court transcripts from New Mexico v. Martin will, Your Honor.
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Apr 30, 2014 12:31
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rypakal posted:Can your wife tell us precisely how you tastefully rape someone?
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Apr 30, 2014 12:42
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Urdnot Fire posted:If it’s a tasteless rape, the female body has ways to try to shut that whole thing down. I heard it too, from a doctor, I believe. Or someone really familiar with rape.
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Apr 30, 2014 14:43
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So, why are you guys not sperging out about the Night's King reveal done by HBO?
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It's not a spoiler if Winds never comes out.rypakal posted:tell us precisely how you tastefully rape someone? I'm sure there was an episode of Queer Eye for the Straight Guy that dealt with that.
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Daktari posted:So, why are you guys not sperging out about the Night's King reveal done by HBO? Oh we did. I believe there were a few Darth Maul jokes and maybe one about rape or lemoncakes. Bookreaders embrace new material you see.
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I don't get the whole deal with the Night's King reveal. That the Others turn humans into Others is basically "Renly is gay" level speculation that this point, given that we know that Others take Craster's sons and we know that Craster's wife refers to the people coming to take the baby as Craster's sons. I dunno, I have been assuming for at least 13 years (since I read ASOS) that the Others turn humans into Others. Referring to him as the Night's King is more interesting, but we have no idea what that means. It could be anything from "that is a cool and ominous sounding name for a big evil dude" to "pact theory is totally correct you guys!" to "the Night's King, after being defeated by the Starks and the NW, fled north to join the Others" which, while new information, is not particularly earth-shattering. I mean, once you accept that humans can turn into Others, the idea that the Others are led by the Night's King is kind of a cool tie-in to a previously subtle hint but doesn't really change anything about them or what they do or anything. Does it matter who leads them if they're still making deadguy art and raising corpses? It might if the whole "pact theory" is true but we have no real confirmation on that, and so far there's no evidence besides our faith in GRRM's ability to write a good villain that they're anything other than implacably, inexplicably evil necromantic ice elves.
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Apr 30, 2014 15:20
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Could you change your username to DAD LOST MY HAND? iPods are an anachronism to the world of HBO's Game of Thrones. False hands made of solid gold, however, are perfectly fine. Was Jaime's hand actually solid gold, or just golden? Pure gold would be pretty damned soft.
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Apr 30, 2014 15:24
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Man I shouldn't watch the show. I'd forgotten how much I liked the Hound.
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Apr 30, 2014 15:24
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So with the Night's King thing being revealed so far ahead of the book plot... I've decided the HBO show is just GRRMs way out of having his legacy tarnished by never finishing the series. He's had writers block and procrastinated like crazy for years. Pretty sure this is just his way of not having to deal with that anymore, giving the ending to the HBO writers, and letting them fill in any blanks he can't between the end of book 5 and the eventual end of the series. We'll never see the end of the print series. We all knew it, and apparently GRRM has decided that, too.
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Apr 30, 2014 15:41
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Mr. Bad Guy posted:Well I finally got aroudn to watching Jamie rape Cersie (been moving), and I have to say, I expected worse, given the outrage all over the internet. My wife agreed that it was pretty tame.
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Why does it seem to be such a given that the Other who changed the baby is the Nights King? There isn't really any indication of it having a link to the Nights Watch in the past. I mean it makes sense, but there's very little to support it.
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Apr 30, 2014 17:56
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The HBO synopsis for the episode directly stated it.
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To be clear it just called him the Night's King, but we don't know if he's THE Night's King or if it's just a separate title.
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unlimited shrimp posted:I think it would have been better if like, Jaime bent Cersei over the table and Cersei shoved Joffrey's corpse under her midsection to kind of prop up her rear end to give Jaime more leverage for his thrusting and then I guess he could have just jizzed in Joffrey's mouth since he's dead and wont care anyway and then no worry about pregnancy Sticky princes for the sticky prince.
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Apr 30, 2014 18:18
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:I don't get the whole deal with the Night's King reveal. That the Others turn humans into Others is basically "Renly is gay" level speculation that this point, given that we know that Others take Craster's sons and we know that Craster's wife refers to the people coming to take the baby as Craster's sons. I dunno, I have been assuming for at least 13 years (since I read ASOS) that the Others turn humans into Others. It doesn't really change anything, what matters is the fact that it's new info. We've been talking about this for years but poo poo, it's real now, the show is catching up and they'll finish before the books do (if they do).
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I Own Soulz posted:Why does it seem to be such a given that the Other who changed the baby is the Nights King? There isn't really any indication of it having a link to the Nights Watch in the past. I mean it makes sense, but there's very little to support it. He has a crown. One shot is composed such that he's the 13th of 13 Others on screen. The Night's King was the 13th Lord Commander and reigned for 13 years. I also find it interesting that the viewer's guide refers to the location as a "city".
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Apr 30, 2014 19:09
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Elman posted:It doesn't really change anything, what matters is the fact that it's new info. We've been talking about this for years but poo poo, it's real now, the show is catching up and they'll finish before the books do (if they do). Wouldn't it be just lovely if the show got cancelled as well?
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OhYeah posted:Wouldn't it be just lovely if the show got cancelled as well? This would kind of be the ideal ending at this point. The bad thread wins.
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unlimited shrimp posted:I also find it interesting that the viewer's guide refers to the location as a "city". Also not really a surprise. Isn't Valyria or whatever supposedly some kind of radioactive city now?
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Franz von Dada posted:Oh poo poo I better go watch the new episodes fast before everything is revealed Quick everyone pile into the TV thread and start very seriously getting angry about them being such assholes because something exists
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IRQ posted:Also not really a surprise. Isn't Valyria or whatever supposedly some kind of radioactive city now?  But it surprised me because it seemed like another thing that wasn't explicit in the show. It certainly didn't look like any sort of city, just a big ice flow and a spooky altar. But the Viewer's Guide describes it explicitly as a "city of ice". I think it would have been a safe assumption that the Others had a city or cities, but the books never touched on it.
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DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:Referring to him as the Night's King is more interesting, but we have no idea what that means. It could be anything from...
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wukkar posted:Or it could be that HBOWebpageDude made an actual mistake. That's a very specific mistake.
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Jeffrey posted:Tyrion runs away with to where whores go. Turns out Brienne knew all along.
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Bran puts down his roots north of the Wall.IRQ posted:to where whores go. Turns out Brienne knew all along.
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wukkar posted:Or it could be that HBOWebpageDude made an actual mistake. With there being only a few books left in theory and with what little we know about the Others it makes more sense that it actually was the Night's King because that creates a link with the Starks and moves the whole thing forward. You can Westeros.org "IT'S NOT CANON IT'S NOT CANON(WE ARE ALSO ON THE PAYROLL)" all you want but they dropped a cool hint and I think everybody is just desperate for anything. On a side note I can't wait till the series is over so I can go to a con and make GRRM sign the DVD's of the show.
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IRQ posted:Also not really a surprise. Isn't Valyria or whatever supposedly some kind of radioactive city now? I always read it as being buried in a massive volcanic disaster, and the ocean around it still being filled with lava.
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Gone Baptizin posted:With there being only a few books left in theory and with what little we know about the Others it makes more sense that it actually was the Night's King because that creates a link with the Starks and moves the whole thing forward. You can Westeros.org "IT'S NOT CANON IT'S NOT CANON(WE ARE ALSO ON THE PAYROLL)" all you want but they dropped a cool hint and I think everybody is just desperate for anything. I'm pretty sure GRRM dies before the show ends, never mind his adaptation.
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Blade_of_tyshalle posted:Could you change your username to DAD LOST MY HAND? iPods are an anachronism to the world of HBO's Game of Thrones. False hands made of solid gold, however, are perfectly fine. Jaime says on the show that it's gilded steel.
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Apr 30, 2014 21:51
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Whereas in the books it was solid gold with mother of pearl fingernails.
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Show writers cleaning up for George's inability to write plausible dimensions. Especially age. He had a tough time with that particular dimension for some reason.
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PittTheElder posted:Never forget the 700 foot high, 300 mile long wall of ice. That people fight off of somehow. That always bothered me. I wondered how wildlings fired arrows up 700 feet with primitive bows and they still could kill a man but something something words words physics something Ren Faire something Let me tell you about my Warhammer figures.
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