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SedanChair posted:At least they're not trying to use their kids as human shields yet. Wait, is there a better term than "human shields" for when you want the other guys to shoot them? Reminds me of the South Park movie.
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This Esquire article has been posted before but I wanted to highlight what I think is the critical passage:quote:The crowd, fresh off their victory at the Battle of Bunkerville, gives Bundy a standing ovation. But he doesn’t seem pleased. He reproaches the crowd for failing to follow the word of God – to the letter – which he says is being delivered through him. They failed, for example, to follow his instructions to tear down the toll booths at Lake Mead and disarm the Park Service. I have no doubt we can take the man at his word here, he believes the word of Capital-G God is being delivered through him. I doubt many of his followers buy deeply into that, but they are either tolerating it or just pretending that their leader isn't having a psychotic break. The worst part is that the reason Bundy ordered the charge was because God told him to. If you read some of the other articles Bundy had been told by God to get his followers to charge the Feds. He hadn't been successful so after awhile he just charged them himself and his followers came along. They literally charged federal agents because a crazy old man is hearing orders from God. And now that following Gods orders has lead to victory once, Bundy will not hesitate to do something similar again.
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May 4, 2014 20:07
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SedanChair posted:At least they're not trying to use their kids as human shields yet. Wait, is there a better term than "human shields" for when you want the other guys to shoot them? Bait
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May 4, 2014 20:11
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RevKrule posted:Joel McHale dropped a lot of serious truth bombs from the drone strike express last night. Between pissing off both gamers and inside-the-beltway types, Joel McHale is probably my favorite celebrity at the moment.
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SedanChair posted:At least they're not trying to use their kids as human shields yet. Wait, is there a better term than "human shields" for when you want the other guys to shoot them? Palestinian Teens? 
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SedanChair posted:At least they're not trying to use their kids as human shields yet. Wait, is there a better term than "human shields" for when you want the other guys to shoot them? "The price of Freedom"
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Prester John posted:The worst part is that the reason Bundy ordered the charge was because God told him to. If you read some of the other articles Bundy had been told by God to get his followers to charge the Feds. He hadn't been successful so after awhile he just charged them himself and his followers came along. Well, Bush was always saying "God ordered me to strike at them" and his favorability just keeps going up.
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May 4, 2014 20:58
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I've always loved how that kid is like "whatever cops"
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SodomyGoat101 posted:You had a couple factual errors there, I went ahead and corrected them, buddy. Seriously, though, loving Nevada, of all places, seems the most poo poo-awful place for anti-government rebellion, particularly Southern Nevada. If you're going to have a Nevada fiefdom, why not Tahoe, at least? Too close to California? I dunno. loving go to Utah, that place is nice. Nevada's a wasteland of human civilization at the best of times, it's the only place on Earth that could make me miss Texas.
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SedanChair posted:At least they're not trying to use their kids as human shields yet. Wait, is there a better term than "human shields" for when you want the other guys to shoot them? Human martyrs?
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Hedera Helix posted:Whoever it was that compared Cliven Bundy to a warlord appears to have hit the nail on the head. (via digby) Again I find myself seeing no problem with the feds just laying waste to every last one of these people, or disappearing them one by one were it not for the fact that we'd end up with more Oklahoma City bombings as a result, while the main instigators would remain on tv/radio and make even more money as result. Can only imagine what the feds would've done to that Sheriff had he actually gone and tried to disarm federal agents. pengun101 posted:ok this poo poo is starting to anger and scare me. I understand the feds are trying to wait these assholes out, but at this rate they will start killing people for being "feds". Its obvious they are worried about disloyalty in the ranks, so i assume some purity tests will start soon, which is kinda of worrisome. If militias start killing each other due to No True Scotsman that's pretty much the best possible outcome for everyone else. Lets the feds round up the survivors and tack numerous murder charges on to whatever else they've built up during this nonsense.
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Former Sheriff, he lost election because of his Oathkeeper BS.
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Y-Hat posted:You'd think Obama's guys would have known that inviting celebrities whose entire shticks revolve around going after people is a bad idea, based on what Colbert did eight years ago. Considering Obama and the crowd were actually laughing and Obama had made a lot of jokes on similar topics in his speech, I don't think he cared.
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1stGear posted:Considering Obama and the crowd were actually laughing and Obama had made a lot of jokes on similar topics in his speech, I don't think he cared. I imagine the organizers look at a guest's notes and, while I doubt they put any real pressure on them to change stuff, the combination of the White House saying, "Uh, maybe this is a little much?" and the natural inclination to not be too much of a dick at such a prestigious career event (I'd be surprised if McHale wasn't genuine when he said it was one of the coolest things he'd ever done), there's probably not much risk.
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May 4, 2014 22:30
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SedanChair posted:At least they're not trying to use their kids as human shields yet. Wait, is there a better term than "human shields" for when you want the other guys to shoot them? Ablative armor.
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Pharmaskittle posted:I imagine the organizers look at a guest's notes and, while I doubt they put any real pressure on them to change stuff, the combination of the White House saying, "Uh, maybe this is a little much?" and the natural inclination to not be too much of a dick at such a prestigious career event (I'd be surprised if McHale wasn't genuine when he said it was one of the coolest things he'd ever done), there's probably not much risk. The whole point of the event is self-deprecating humor. The only line-crossing that I can think of is the sketch GWB did where he was hunting around the White House looking for the missing Iraqi WMDs. Joking about one of your mistakes that resulted in the deaths of thousands is going a bit far IMO.
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withak posted:The whole point of the event is self-deprecating humor. The only line-crossing that I can think of is the sketch GWB did where he was hunting around the White House looking for the missing Iraqi WMDs. Joking about one of your mistakes that resulted in the deaths of thousands is going a bit far IMO. Oh, I agree of course. I just mean that the odds of someone getting up there and saying something the administration wasn't okay with in that setting is pretty slim. The Bush Jr WMD sketch was definitely tone deaf, to put it mildly.
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Evil Fluffy posted:Again I find myself seeing no problem with the feds just ... disappearing them one by one Do you honestly feel this way? You're a creepy dude, dude.
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gagelion posted:Do you honestly feel this way? You're a creepy dude, dude. Yeah, I have no love for these assholes but wishing the government would just black bag them is cartoonishly evil.
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Pharmaskittle posted:I just mean that the odds of someone getting up there and saying something the administration wasn't okay with in that setting is pretty slim. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U7FTF4Oz4dI
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I'm always confused by Scalia laughing his rear end off at Colbert's routine.
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Colbert wasn't even the most inappropriate guest speaker for a White House Correspondents Dinner https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d5kpXhq5nHM Fan and everything, but did anyone in the Clinton administration back then even watch Weekend Update at the time? And if they did, how did they think Norm would be a good fit over than to mess with people? Pharmaskittle posted:Oh, I agree of course. I just mean that the odds of someone getting up there and saying something the administration wasn't okay with in that setting is pretty slim. The Bush Jr WMD sketch was definitely tone deaf, to put it mildly. Bush was like that a lot during his Presidency because he's the kind of guy that thinks he's really funny, or at least has a compulsion to insert jokes in his conversations/speeches, but honestly really isn't because he can't read the audience very well. Thus he'll say stuff that isn't really funny or get sympathetic laughs and drat was it easy for comedians back then to edit his speeches because the material writes itself (not trying to excuse poo poo like the Iraq War). Justin Godscock fucked around with this message at 00:11 on May 5, 2014 |
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Justin Godscock posted:Colbert wasn't even the most inappropriate guest speaker for a White House Correspondents Dinner But remember, he's an emotional genius puppetmaster!! (who can't read he own audience)
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In which Jane Harman greatly upsets Brit Hume by accurately placing #BENGHAZI on the right wing conspiracy continuum: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yymb61kORfk
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Thanks for posting this since it's hilarious and I watched the entire thing again. Sorry, I should have said that I meant the Obama administration.
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comes along bort posted:In which Jane Harman greatly upsets Brit Hume by accurately placing #BENGHAZI on the right wing conspiracy continuum: I was half expecting "But Vince Foster was murdered."
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hobbesmaster posted:I'm always confused by Scalia laughing his rear end off at Colbert's routine.
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Nessus posted:Man, what problems WON'T buying a shitload more product solve? It's amazing! I love buying products. From a few pages back, but it got lost in the latest pointless Fishmech derail- you forgot the best part which was the dude also competed in and was later booted out of the Miss Gay America pageant for "conduct unbecoming to a promoter of the Miss Gay America pageant system."
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comes along bort posted:In which Jane Harman greatly upsets Brit Hume by accurately placing #BENGHAZI on the right wing conspiracy continuum: She could have very easily just shot back with "Colin Powell's info and talking points to the UN Security Council about Iraq turned out to be false as well, do you think there was a conspiracy to invade?"
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comes along bort posted:In which Jane Harman greatly upsets Brit Hume by accurately placing #BENGHAZI on the right wing conspiracy continuum: Man, she should have been better prepared for that obvious question. Saying she doesn't know just perpetuates the bullshit. It's not like it's a big mystery where individual pieces of intelligence came from at this point.
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comes along bort posted:In which Jane Harman greatly upsets Brit Hume by accurately placing #BENGHAZI on the right wing conspiracy continuum: The best part of this video is at the end when the anchor has to actually explain that there's a question mark on the end of Fox's false statement to cover the fact that they are consciously lying about it.
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Unzip and Attack posted:Yeah, I have no love for these assholes but wishing the government would just black bag them is cartoonishly evil.
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This new Benghazi revelation may shake up the entire political landscape. I'm not sure if you realize the significance of these developments.
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GROVER CURES HOUSE posted:But remember, he's an emotional genius puppetmaster!! Dubya or Norm?
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What's their game plan exactly? Keep up this idiotic speculation all the way until the election or what?
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Cabbit posted:Dubya or Norm? Why not both? 
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Samurai Sanders posted:What's their game plan exactly? Keep up this idiotic speculation all the way until the election or what? Once the American people find out what Obama knew and covered up, it's game over for the Democrats for at least a generation. "What difference does it make?" will become the new "I am not a crook."
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OwlBot 2000 posted:Once the American people find out what Obama knew and covered up, it's game over for the Democrats for at least a generation. "What difference does it make?" will become the new "I am not a crook." Yeaaaahhh not gonna happen, though. The "game plan" is "make drat sure nobody ever says Obama and Hillary did a better job in Libya than Bush did in Iraq."
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Samurai Sanders posted:What's their game plan exactly? Keep up this idiotic speculation all the way until the election or what? Sure, unless an actual scandal happens between now and then, at which point Benghazi gets relegated to a bullet point for when Sean Hannity needs to list off as many Obama scandals as he can remember. You aren't going to hear much about actual policy until after the election where they're going to win seats just because of which seats are going to be open, at which point they'll crow about how the election gave them a mandate to enact every unpopular policy they refused to talk about before.
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Hieronymous Alloy posted:Yeaaaahhh not gonna happen, though. No, but that's what conservatives think will happen. They believe it is second only to 9/11 in significance and will be shocked and utterly lost when they realize that, once again, nobody cares. I know DnD gets accused of being an echo chamber but the amount of talking point coordination between Fox, Drudge and right-wing radio is both impressive and hilarious, but it gives people the ability to know what Republicans will say before they even open their mouths.
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