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Miko posted:Yay. Hopefully he and Ingram can actually do stuff next year. Corey Liuget will always have a special place in my heart because a radio show interviewed me about him at the draft and said that I sounded like a scout 
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Blarfk posted:This is pretty cool, do you have a link to the article where that came from? http://www.packers.com/news-and-events/ask-vic/article-1/Be-patient-your-safety-will-fall-to-you/6bb0c10d-d209-4139-a658-1803a7d94358 Vic writes Q&A for Packers.com Monday through Friday. He's pretty entertaining.
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May 6, 2014 16:24
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Since the draft is in two days, I've been reading through PFF's re-grading of the 2009-2011 drafts. It's filled with the typical PFF head-shakers, but it's at least an okay read for what teams are pulling lots of starters / contributors from the draft. https://www.profootballfocus.com/blog/2014/05/03/draft-grader-seattle-seahawks-3/ (You can get to every team from the bottom table). The only players to get a -2.0 grade are Pat White, Aaron Maybin, Larry English and Sergio Kindle. +2.0 (which, this being PFF, requires them to not be 1st round picks, which is downright silly when say, JJ Watt exists): Kam Chancellor, Richard Sherman, Navarro Bowman, Rob Gronkowski, Geno Atkins, Jimmy Graham and LeSean McCoy. The grade categories are more then a bit wonky, so if you do read any of these, I'd probably just go ahead and mentally lump anything with a +1.0 or greater into hits and ignore the rest unless you want to get mad about Aaron Curry or something. Kalli fucked around with this message at 17:23 on May 6, 2014 |
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May 6, 2014 17:20
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It's a little harsh to give Sergio Kindle the lowest rating possible when he suffered a severe head injury before ever playing a snap. Would he be a -2 if the fall had killed him?
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May 6, 2014 17:40
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Chad Jones was given a 0.0 pass after his car accident so it's probably harsh. Then again it's a number on an internet column so who really cares.
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May 6, 2014 17:44
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Pat White gets a -2.0 but Jimmy Clausen gets a -1.5 aight
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May 6, 2014 17:48
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Alouicious posted:Pat White gets a -2.0 but Jimmy Clausen gets a -1.5 Clausen directly contributed to the team getting Newton. That's worth at least a .5 bump.
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May 6, 2014 17:53
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Those PFF grades are pretty accurate for the Giants, I'd say. Reese isn't the megaman at drafting that everyone thinks he is.
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May 6, 2014 18:10
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Same for Newsome. He's terrific with free agency but has mostly been coasting on reputation on the draft for the past 5 years.
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May 6, 2014 18:12
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That Chargers rundown is so goddamn depressing
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May 6, 2014 18:16
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ROSS MY SALAD posted:That Chargers rundown is so goddamn depressing Life as a San Diego sports fan. 
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May 6, 2014 18:26
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Coldforge posted:Clausen directly contributed to the team getting Newton. That's worth at least a .5 bump. Cam himself is only rated .5 which is "eh hey at least he's trying right????" according to the ratings PFF is dumb as hell
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May 6, 2014 18:26
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Speaking of depressing drafts, here's a story from SI on how the 80's Bucs make the current Browns look like a competent organization.
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May 6, 2014 18:30
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Alouicious posted:Cam himself is only rated .5 Our sixth round TE who played pretty well until tearing his ACL and getting released was only given a 0.0 rating. Just because Sherman and Chancellor were taken in late rounds doesn't mean every guy should be held to that standard, a role-playing TE who got several hundred yards is easily worth more than a 0 as a sixth rounder. whypick1 posted:Speaking of depressing drafts, here's a story from SI on how the 80's Bucs make the current Browns look like a competent organization. Pretty crazy story, especially considering that Booker Reese's measurables still look loving amazing 30 years later. Chichevache fucked around with this message at 18:38 on May 6, 2014 |
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May 6, 2014 18:31
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The Chiefs are sorta shopping Brandon Flowers. Who could be in play for him?quote:Dan Pompei of Bleacher Report reported Tuesday that the team is "willing to deal" cornerback Brandon Flowers in exchange for picks. http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap2000000346983/article/chiefs-reportedly-willing-to-deal-brandon-flowers
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May 6, 2014 19:09
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Chichevache posted:Our sixth round TE who played pretty well until tearing his ACL and getting released was only given a 0.0 rating. Just because Sherman and Chancellor were taken in late rounds doesn't mean every guy should be held to that standard, a role-playing TE who got several hundred yards is easily worth more than a 0 as sixth rounder. What an odd thing to argue
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May 6, 2014 19:13
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Chichevache posted:Our sixth round TE who played pretty well until tearing his ACL and getting released was only given a 0.0 rating. Just because Sherman and Chancellor were taken in late rounds doesn't mean every guy should be held to that standard, a role-playing TE who got several hundred yards is easily worth more than a 0 as a sixth rounder. I'll agree with this. A Sixth rounder who gets playing time during his rookie season might as well be a loving +1.
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May 6, 2014 19:16
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AAA DOLFAN posted:What an odd thing to argue Well when you're claiming that you're going to factor in draft position and you start giving out negative grades for third day picks then I'm of course going to wonder what you expect out of a 7th rounder. To me the only way a guy in the 6th or 7th is a negative grade is if he somehow manages to injure one of our 1st- 5th round guys. If he somehow sees the field more than once a season then boy howdy he sure deserves a positive grade because he somehow made a team.
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May 6, 2014 19:21
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John Brown posted:The Chiefs are sorta shopping Brandon Flowers. Who could be in play for him? They've been talking about doing the same with Eric Berry. Neither seems very likely.
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May 6, 2014 19:23
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#askcommish is amazing today.
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May 6, 2014 19:24
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Coldforge posted:#askcommish is amazing today. Haha that's perfect
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May 6, 2014 19:27
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John Brown posted:The Chiefs are sorta shopping Brandon Flowers. Who could be in play for him? He's almost certainly a cap casualty next year so if we can get a 2nd or 3rd for him this year it'd be nice. CLEVELAND I AM LOOKING IN YOUR DIRECTION
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May 6, 2014 19:28
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Chichevache posted:Well when you're claiming that you're going to factor in draft position and you start giving out negative grades for third day picks then I'm of course going to wonder what you expect out of a 7th rounder. To me the only way a guy in the 6th or 7th is a negative grade is if he somehow manages to injure one of our 1st- 5th round guys. If he somehow sees the field more than once a season then boy howdy he sure deserves a positive grade because he somehow made a team. I'd say any 3rd day pick that doesn't make it two seasons deserves a negative grade. They don't have to play, but they should at least be bouncing between your inactives / practice squad when not-injured. I'll add the caveat that if you cut them and they get snatched up by someone else, you're still good, you successfully scouted players that can make it in the league. Now, are PFF's grades super inconsistent? Sure, no argument there. I'd only consider even like half their -1.0 players busts, and pretty much don't care that their list of 0 and -0.5 players for every team is a mixed grab bag of garbage.
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May 6, 2014 19:35
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Alouicious posted:Pat White gets a -2.0 but Jimmy Clausen gets a -1.5 White was out of the league after like two games.
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May 6, 2014 19:40
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Parmesan Basil posted:They've been talking about doing the same with Eric Berry. Neither seems very likely.
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May 6, 2014 19:50
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Parmesan Basil posted:They've been talking about doing the same with Eric Berry. Neither seems very likely. We'll give you a 4th for Berry. Woodson, Berry and Branch would be a sick backfield.
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May 6, 2014 19:58
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MourningView posted:White was out of the league after like two games. Sure, but Jimmy Clausen's play was actively detrimental to success. Pat White got murdered on the field by Ike Taylor. I also forgot Pat White was a 2nd round pick
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May 6, 2014 20:03
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LiquidFriend posted:I don't think there's been any talk about moving Berry, outside of a really stupid article that Sam Mellinger wrote. Yea I can't imagine what would be worth losing Berry unless they had some super secret plan or whatever.
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May 6, 2014 20:03
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Man if Rap was @boring_as_heck that would be cool, that guy is funny. @PFTCommenter @awfulannouncing @wheatretard @BobbyBigWheel @jon_bois are all good follows too
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May 6, 2014 20:18
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bewbies posted:He's almost certainly a cap casualty next year so if we can get a 2nd or 3rd for him this year it'd be nice. He is getting old, expensive, often-hurt and just had a bad year. The Chiefs would be lucky to get a 5th
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May 6, 2014 20:19
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Pron on VHS posted:Man if Rap was @boring_as_heck that would be cool, that guy is funny. It would be cool if rap was funny
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May 6, 2014 20:24
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#postingaboutposting
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May 6, 2014 20:41
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The NFL did an entertainingly misjudged Q&A on twitter just now. It went about as well as anything on the internet ever does. Linky
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May 6, 2014 20:42
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tarbrush posted:The NFL did an entertainingly misjudged Q&A on twitter just now. So this is what it's come down to for Chris Kluwe. Trolling Goodell on twitter.
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May 6, 2014 20:47
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Volkerball posted:So this is what it's come down to for Chris Kluwe. Trolling Goodell on twitter. It wasn't even a good troll and it got the most retweets and favorites over all the actually funny tweets. *runs to chalkboard, puts another dash under the I Hate Kluwe category*
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May 6, 2014 20:55
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Doltos posted:It wasn't even a good troll and it got the most retweets and favorites over all the actually funny tweets. Well everyone else is just random people, so he probably has 10 times as many followers as all of them combined.
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May 6, 2014 21:01
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tarbrush posted:The NFL did an entertainingly misjudged Q&A on twitter just now. You'd think after witnessing the NYPD twitter incident they'd know better. Oops.
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May 6, 2014 21:05
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ace8989 posted:You'd think after witnessing the NYPD twitter incident they'd know better. Oops. Or, even more notably, the Mark Emmertt one from like last week.
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May 6, 2014 21:12
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Kalli posted:Or, even more notably, the Mark Emmertt one from like last week. I have no idea how I missed this one. And now I have something to do until my class is over. Thanks.
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May 6, 2014 21:16
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So the police finally released the 911 calls regarding the Kaepernick/Lockette/Patton incident. http://www.miamiherald.com/2014/05/06/4101367/police-focus-on-911-calls-from.html quote:Police released tape of a pair of April 1 calls on Tuesday,a week later than expected and without idenifying the men who made the calls. The calls last a combined 3 minutes and 16 seconds. Here's the full audio. http://tmz.vo.llnwd.net/o28/newsdesk/tmz_audio/colin%20911_v2.mp3
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