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I'll be very surprised if, between M15 and Huey, there isn't a more playable creature that costs UU. We'll just have to wait and see.
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Madmarker posted:Oh it is a bad card, however, its a 2 power 2 drop that grants 2 blue devotion. If Master of Waves and Thassa didnt exist, I would agree with you. Watch them reprint Master of the pearl trident in M15 and make Mindreaver even more irrelevant.
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May 7, 2014 16:04
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MonoU's viability entirely depends on what we get in M15+Huey, since rotation kills tons of the cards we play: - Nightveil Specter - Tidebinder - Frostburn - Cloudfin Raptor - - Rapid Hybridization - AEtherling - Mutavault Rotation basically kills all of our early game and our best combat/anti-removal trick, and we lose one of our better board-in-vs.-control cards. Oh, and Mutavault is gone, too. E: Cactrot posted:Watch them reprint Master of the pearl trident and make Mindreaver even more irrelevant.
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May 7, 2014 16:05
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Thassa and Master are two very powerful cards. There will be some sort of deck that plays both most likely.
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Mikujin posted:MonoU's viability entirely depends on what we get in M15+Huey, since rotation kills tons of the cards we play: I am looking forward to the day that Nightveil Specter is no longer in games I play. That card is such a pain in the rear end...
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Cactrot posted:Watch them reprint Master of the pearl trident in M15 and make Mindreaver even more irrelevant. Only if it has more rad art. I think I could enjoy a standard of Merfolk Tribal, honestly.
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May 7, 2014 16:12
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Ebethron posted:As I speculated a few dozen pages ago, I am guessing that Gold will feature in the next block. Seems pretty narrow to be a major mechanic, but I'd really like to see this: Gold Mine Land Gold Mine enters the battlefield tapped with three mining counters on it. {T}, Remove a mining counter from Gold Mine: Put a colorless artifact token named Gold onto the battlefield. It has "Sacrifice this artifact: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool." If there are no mining counters on Gold Mine, sacrifice it.
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May 7, 2014 16:54
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Nibble posted:I'd really like to see this:
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May 7, 2014 17:03
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Would the affinity mechanic let you get both benefits off Gold? (Cheaper cost, then crack it?) Or will the cost adjust itself dynamically even when you're paying mana costs? The notion that you could put something on the stack, begin paying its cost, and then it becomes illegal because in paying those costs it became uncastable seems weird to me. Nehru the Damaja fucked around with this message at 17:24 on May 7, 2014 |
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May 7, 2014 17:17
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A gold Gemstone Caverns style card would be kind of interesting, but probably too broken. Something like: Land You may reveal this card from your opening hand. If you do, exile it and, at the beginning of the first upkeep, put a colorless artifact token named Gold onto the battlefield. It has "Sacrifice this artifact: Add one mana of any color to your mana pool." T: Add 1 to your mana pool.
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May 7, 2014 17:21
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Wait, why do people think Gold is going to be anything other than a gimmick on two cards?
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Entropic posted:Wait, why do people think Gold is going to be anything other than a gimmick on two cards? In the race to call it first, anything is fair game. I predict that the Huey seed card is the reminder text insert.
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May 7, 2014 17:31
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Entropic posted:Wait, why do people think Gold is going to be anything other than a gimmick on two cards? Because nerds latch on to anything. cf. Steamflogger Boss
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May 7, 2014 17:32
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Nehru the Damaja posted:Would the affinity mechanic let you get both benefits off Gold? (Cheaper cost, then crack it?) Or will the cost adjust itself dynamically even when you're paying mana costs? You can do this. You determine the cost before you begin paying it, and you can activate mana abilities while paying. Certain Pauper Affinity variants do this with Lotus Petal, which is essentially gold_token.card.
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May 7, 2014 17:38
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Starfish Tribal or bust.
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Entropic posted:Wait, why do people think Gold is going to be anything other than a gimmick on two cards? Longshot speculation, with the reward of priceless gloating rights if I am right. Also, like Evolve it was a mechanism proposed in the Great Designer Search.
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May 7, 2014 17:42
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LordSaturn posted:You can do this. You determine the cost before you begin paying it, and you can activate mana abilities while paying. Certain Pauper Affinity variants do this with Lotus Petal, which is essentially gold_token.card. Figured that was probably the case but wasn't sure if the casting cost became locked in or was always dynamic. Thanks.
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Huey block will be a plane filled entirely with libertarians and the mechanics will include the Gold mechanic, first seeded into the Theros block. During the course of the block's storyline, Elspeth will discover that there is a terrible, dark entity within the plane's heart that if left unchecked, will destroy it utterly. She decides to get some popcorn, kick back, and watch.
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May 7, 2014 17:45
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Pyrolocutus posted:Huey block will be a plane filled entirely with libertarians and the mechanics will include the Gold mechanic, first seeded into the Theros block. During the course of the block's storyline, Elspeth will discover that there is a terrible, dark entity within the plane's heart that if left unchecked, will destroy it utterly. She decides to get some popcorn, kick back, and watch. I like to believe that Elspeth will get lost on the way to the next plane...I am kind of tired of her TBH.
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May 7, 2014 17:48
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OssiansFolly posted:I like to believe that Elspeth will get lost on the way to the next plane...I am kind of tired of her TBH. She's probably gonna stay on Theros for a while, it's pretty much the closest thing she's had to a true home
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May 7, 2014 17:52
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Count Bleck posted:She's probably gonna stay on Theros for a while, it's pretty much the closest thing she's had to a true home I kind of figured it was heading in that direction, but I also feel that the conflict with the gods is also pushing the realm closer to collapsing as well...so it could go either way at this point, but I am crossing my fingers that she doesn't make an appearance in the next block and they have a new White PW.
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May 7, 2014 17:59
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Pyrolocutus posted:Huey block will be a plane filled entirely with libertarians and the mechanics will include the Gold mechanic, first seeded into the Theros block. During the course of the block's storyline, Elspeth will discover that there is a terrible, dark entity within the plane's heart that if left unchecked, will destroy it utterly. She decides to get some popcorn, kick back, and watch. So wait, are you saying that Wizards will be adopting....a gold Standard? Google Ron Tibalt.
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Huey Block poster found
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Pyrolocutus posted:Huey block will be a plane filled entirely with libertarians and the mechanics will include the Gold mechanic, first seeded into the Theros block. During the course of the block's storyline, Elspeth will discover that there is a terrible, dark entity within the plane's heart that if left unchecked, will destroy it utterly. She decides to get some popcorn, kick back, and watch. Spectre of Communism Legendary Creature - Spirit e spectre not ghost
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Pyrolocutus posted:Huey block will be a plane filled entirely with libertarians and the mechanics will include the Gold mechanic, first seeded into the Theros block. During the course of the block's storyline, Elspeth will discover that there is a terrible, dark entity within the plane's heart that if left unchecked, will destroy it utterly. She decides to get some popcorn, kick back, and watch. If your devotion to purestrain is 20 or more, you win the game.
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Can anyone explain how Overburden actually works? The printed text isn't very clear so I checked Oracle, which tells me nothing except that it's only non-token creatures. The Oracle text is: Whenever a player puts a nontoken creature onto the battlefield, that player returns a land he or she controls to its owner's hand. So is this just an ETB for all nontoken creatures? Obviously casting a creature or cheating it into play causes the bounce trigger. Is it only if you caused the creature to ETB? ie if someone Cloudshifts your creature does it still count? If you fetch a Dryad Arbor? I've never seen "puts into play" on a card that I can remember, so I'm trying to figure out what exactly it affects. Would Sudden Disappearance just be a board wipe? Edit: or maybe it would wipe my board because I caused the creatures to come into play? suicidesteve fucked around with this message at 18:49 on May 7, 2014 |
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Entropic posted:Wait, why do people think Gold is going to be anything other than a gimmick on two cards? Well, it seems like it would play fairly similarly to the Eldrazi Spawn tokens in Rise of the Eldrazi, so it's not completely untested waters for Wizards. It was presented in the Great Designer Search (https://www.wizards.com/Magic/magazine/Article.aspx?x=mtg/daily/feature/128d) and in its current form seems to have a very deep design space. It was also presented/conceptualized about 3 years ago, which gives the mechanic enough time to make it through both design and development. In fact, if it is in the set, it took a year more than normal to make it through, which fits with MaRo mentioning the block was pushed back a year.
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suicidesteve posted:Can anyone explain how Overburden actually works? It's any time a creature comes into play. Period.
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Pyrolocutus posted:Huey block will be a plane filled entirely with libertarians and the mechanics will include the Gold mechanic, first seeded into the Theros block. During the course of the block's storyline, Elspeth will discover that there is a terrible, dark entity within the plane's heart that if left unchecked, will destroy it utterly. She decides to get some popcorn, kick back, and watch. Who is Dack Fayden?
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OssiansFolly posted:I kind of figured it was heading in that direction, but I also feel that the conflict with the gods is also pushing the realm closer to collapsing as well...so it could go either way at this point, but I am crossing my fingers that she doesn't make an appearance in the next block and they have a new White PW. They seem to cycle the popular characters around. I think its a lot more likely you'd see Liliana again in the next block rather than Elspeth.
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May 7, 2014 19:09
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Huey will have a (strong) tribal theme.
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Angry Grimace posted:They seem to cycle the popular characters around. I think its a lot more likely you'd see Liliana again in the next block rather than Elspeth. 
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KillarySwank posted:Huey will have a (strong) tribal theme. I think it'll be a subtheme like it was in innistrad. edit: bring back a little tribal fun once every three years?
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KillarySwank posted:Huey will have a (strong) tribal theme. Buy up brimaz now?
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Tharizdun posted:If they cycle the popular characters back in, why did Elspeth come back? She's a humanoid female and the fanbase for Magic lore has plenty of creeps. To wit: Nissa Revane is apparently coming back despite her actual card being super narrow and wonky. I'd expect more Vampire Sephiroth too, although perhaps not soon. Angry Grimace fucked around with this message at 19:28 on May 7, 2014 |
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Gildse.txtMortimer posted:Who is Dack Fayden? For years now I've been wondering that.
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Angry Grimace posted:She's a humanoid female and the fanbase for Magic lore has plenty of creeps. Expect more Vampire Sephiroth too, although perhaps not soon. Sorin is a Cool Dude, though? Pretty much every time he's showed up, he's been one of the most competent people on the plane without being an insufferable smuglord.
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5-to-4 Decision 3WUB At the beginning of your next end step, if you have twenty more Gold artifact tokens than your opponent, you win the game. More money equals better than.
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redstormpopcorn posted:5-to-4 Decision 3WUB We already have a card with the Supreme Court on it. Its called "Obzedat, Ghost Council."
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Angry Grimace posted:She's a humanoid female and the fanbase for Magic lore has plenty of creeps. To wit: Nissa Revane is apparently coming back despite her actual card being super narrow and wonky. Hopefully Nissa is coming back so they can off her because lore-wise, she's the MegaHitler of walkers.
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