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Evil Sagan posted:What's the most right-wing thing you've done? I voted for Bob Dole in a school-sponsored mock election in 1996. I unironically defended the boy scouts stance on homosexuality up until 2005. On the bright side, I don't have to say that I ever voted for Bush... even though he was the candidate I would have voted for in those two elections. Apathy sometimes pays off I guess.
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Swan Oat posted:The World's Shortest Political Test told me I was a libertarian so I thought that for a while. Then someone asked me if I really thought that the government shouldn't build roads or schools and I was like "no that's crazy". That's when I stopped being a libertarian. I voted Badnarik for similar reasons (ending government interventions overseas prime among them) but somewhere between '04 and '08 I came back to the economic idea of paying for externalities and concluded that Libertarians had no answers for global warming and the like and swung to the left as a result.
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May 10, 2014 02:50
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Dystram posted:Bought stock. I fired a guy on his first not-training day.
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I believed whole-heartedly in the just world fallacy when I was younger, believing that the poor and disadvantaged were thus entirely because they were simply too lazy to go get an education. Then I graduated from undergrad and tried to put my violin performance degree to work for me in the real world by going into music production and sound engineering. Most of my clients were the urban poor that I had previously disdained...and whose ranks I promptly joined. Nothing shines the light of truth quite like living it. Even so, it still took years and countless late night conversations with my incredibly patient new neighbors for it to really sink in. Thanks to my privileged upbringing, I was able to go back and get an engineering degree once I got sick of being poor. Now, I work with people whose outlook is basically identical to what mine was when I was younger  It's somewhat problematic for me, in fact. I feel like my epiphanies living as a temporary poor amongst the more permanent poor were key experiences in growing up and becoming an adult...so I have an unfortunate habit of speaking condescendingly to my coworkers whenever they say things I perceive as "childish", which is nearly daily. I guess what I'm saying is that I agree with whomever suggested compulsory Peace Corp service. 
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May 10, 2014 02:56
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Swan Oat posted:The World's Shortest Political Test told me I was a libertarian so I thought that for a while. Then someone asked me if I really thought that the government shouldn't build roads or schools and I was like "no that's crazy". That's when I stopped being a libertarian. That test is designed to give most people a Libertarian response. As for me, I guess I was wary about a woman in a Niqab once like right after 9/11, but that's about it.
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May 10, 2014 03:13
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Evil Sagan posted:What's the most right-wing thing you've done? I voted for Bob Dole in a school-sponsored mock election in 1996. It was uh, it was something I did in 2000.
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May 10, 2014 03:15
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I've been living comfortably my whole life despite being a lazy piece of poo poo, getting second and third chances at higher education without ever going into debt, thanks to my parents' money.
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May 10, 2014 03:17
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Jagchosis posted:So still a oval office? This doesn't make you a Republican it just makes you broken. And me sad 
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May 10, 2014 03:18
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I was raised by religious Republicans. I think the Christian values of empathy and caring for the poor stuck, but none of the rest of it did.
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May 10, 2014 03:33
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Good news, the Republicans are getting cocky about 2014, which means the probability of Senate GOP candidates making weird rape comments, comments disparaging minorities, or comments calling all minority people rapists will be approaching 1: http://www.slate.com/blogs/weigel/2014/05/09/the_dizzying_heights_of_republican_optimism.html Weigel posted:[T]hough so many of its points could be obliterated with links to public polls.
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May 10, 2014 03:34
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Evil Sagan posted:What's the most right-wing thing you've done? I voted for Bob Dole in a school-sponsored mock election in 1996. When I was 19 I refused to count the vote of a black person. gently caress you we're not getting olives on the pizza
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AATREK CURES KIDS posted:I have to say I side with tbp here. There's a tendency in these threads to joke about killing the rich that sounds just like disjointed Freep fantasies, and goons jump to the "it was just jokes" defense. We're not in GBS, so cut it out. It's just a joke, like on Top Gear. Discuss.
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SedanChair posted:It was uh, it was something I did in 2000. You motherfucker. Tell me you live in Florida so I can punch you in the face.
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May 10, 2014 04:11
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Good Citizen posted:When I was 19 I refused to count the vote of a black person. I hope you've matured since then.
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Oh, now that I remember, when I was in fifth grade I liked the Republicans better because I liked the name "Republican" better than "Democrat" 
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1stGear posted:You motherfucker. Tell me you live in Florida so I can punch you in the face. Quickly! Slit sedanchair's throat in a dark alley! Raskolnikov38 fucked around with this message at 04:20 on May 10, 2014 |
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May 10, 2014 04:18
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I think I've always been consistently left wing in the view that the state should care for its citizens but I was certainly an authoritarian in high school, I'm not sure if there exists a brand of 'Social Fascism' that rejects Corporatism, I'm not a polisci student but I was probably that back then, now I'm much more of a Marxist-Leninist but would be fine with a Social-Democratic situation. I think in my first Federal election in Canada I voted for the main Federal Marxist-Leninist party that split and went Maoist in the 70's.
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Stultus Maximus posted:I hope you've matured since then. Pizza store olives are pretty gross so that was the right call.
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May 10, 2014 04:20
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Evil Sagan posted:What's the most right-wing thing you've done? I voted for Bob Dole in a school-sponsored mock election in 1996. I called my sophomore social studies teacher a sellout because he said a vote for Perot was throwing your vote away.
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Evil Sagan posted:What's the most right-wing thing you've done? I voted for Bob Dole in a school-sponsored mock election in 1996. I was a little pro-GOP poo poo until my brother went to Iraq for a couple tours. Then I kind of grew up. Thankfully all of this happened before I was allowed to vote. Speaking of, my first election was a school levy where I voted yes to fund my school.  Does hunting counts as right-wing in the eyes of the goon?
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DemeaninDemon posted:Does hunting counts as right-wing in the eyes of the goon? Only if you bait fields/do canned hunts.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Does hunting counts as right-wing in the eyes of the goon? Depends. Are you hunting racial minorities?
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SedanChair posted:It was uh, it was something I did in 2000. You bombed the USS Cole?! 
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Jagchosis posted:Good news, the Republicans are getting cocky about 2014, which means the probability of Senate GOP candidates making weird rape comments, comments disparaging minorities, or comments calling all minority people rapists will be approaching 1: That's less republicans getting cocky and more Jennifer Rubin is an idiot.
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I specifically remember looking up from my second grade religion class test and saying to myself "what if they are on a distant island, and the missionary came to the island, but they just kinda didnt believe the guy because a nearby tribe killed him quickly?" I was 7 years old. When I was about 12, I created a nazi anti-gay group ironically. In order to make fun of the entire concept of racism and hating gays, in about 1997, I ironically created a nazi anti gay group. We all joked. The adults were terrified and I was punished. The children understood. I regret this mistake because I didn't think any little gays existed and I assumed that if they did, then they would tell me I'm wrong and I would have loved to apologize and learn about them. Old people have lead poisoning and should never be trusted or listened to in any way.
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comes along bort posted:Only if you bait fields/do canned hunts. Na a real forest. With trees and angry wasps.
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I voted once for Art Robinson for Representative in 2006 in Oregon because he got gas at my station where I worked.
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I voted for Barack Obama in 2008. I thought John McCaine was a moderate before 2007. I believed David Petraeus would eventually be President.
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Tharizdun posted:LA Times: Romney- "Raise the Min Wage" Hey it worked so well for the Democrats. Also most right wing thing I have done, I oppose abortion. Also I don't see the point with going toe to toe with gun nuts being that the right will start banning firearms the moment the left does anything with guns. Crowsbeak fucked around with this message at 05:16 on May 10, 2014 |
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I voted for Bush in 04. What's worse is I may have convinced a friend to as well when I told him that the "Democrats don't care about the troops, but Bush DOES!" I live in a dark blue state though, so luckily my vote didn't matter. I was also a dirty little scumbag who made fun of Al Gore and thought he was a sore loser in 2000, I read a poo poo ton of Vietnam war memoirs and was convinced that we could have won, if only the government had let us kill indiscriminately. I was a weird loving kid, and if I had gone to college instead of working for a decade, I'm sure I would have turned into a scummy little libertarian virgin.
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Raenir Salazar posted:I think I've always been consistently left wing in the view that the state should care for its citizens but I was certainly an authoritarian in high school, I'm not sure if there exists a brand of 'Social Fascism' that rejects Corporatism I was under the impression "social fascism" was just a slur used by Moscow-backed communist parties in the 30s against mainstream social democrats accusing them of being  LITERAL FASCISTS for not supporting immediate violent revolution. 
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Gen. Ripper posted:I was under the impression "social fascism" was just a slur used by Moscow-backed communist parties in the 30s against mainstream social democrats accusing them of being Not just social democrats, also it was used against Trotskyists.
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Jagchosis posted:Most conservative thing I've ever done is dislike the Bay Area, apparently. It makes a lot of folk here presume I am Republican. Chard posted:This doesn't make you a Republican it just makes you broken. And me sad The Bay Area is a theoretical utopia, except no one can afford to move there, people who were born there live either with their parents or packed five deep in hovels, the latino population that gave several areas their charm have been pushed out, and the only jobs available are in tech and foodservice - the latter of which likely means you are living entirely off of your parents. The Bay Area is a nerf castle for the global rich and temporarily embarrassed technocrats bleeding money while sitting in an aeron and talking about microtransactions. 37 year old men in uniqlo slacks and american apparel hoodies getting botox injections and hairplugs to better chase funding. moller fucked around with this message at 06:09 on May 10, 2014 |
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Yeah it's definitely going to collapse at some point. You can't sustain a region where most people who work there can't afford to live there. Isn't the median monthly rent nearly half the median monthly income, or something absurd like that? I fervently hope Seattle doesn't start turning that way. It has a similar techy economy, but with a less romanticized reputation. Also, this $15 minimum wage poo poo might actually happen. Ditocoaf fucked around with this message at 06:35 on May 10, 2014 |
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Ditocoaf posted:Yeah SF is going to collapse at some point. You can't sustain a region where most people who work there can't afford to live there. Isn't the median monthly rent nearly half the median monthly income, or something absurd like that? Ironically, people can't afford to live there because of the lack of new construction, which is because the developers don't want to have the expense of complying with the earthquake codes, which are there so it doesn't literally collapse
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Fried Chicken posted:Ironically, people can't afford to live there because of the lack of new construction, which is because the developers don't want to have the expense of complying with the earthquake codes, which are there so it doesn't literally collapse Sounds like you're saying the solution is deregulation.
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Jagchosis posted:This is true of some civil violations, criminal penalties do require "willful" violation though, or conspiracy, etc, so whatever man. To nail the fatcats the government would have to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the fatcats knew that the asset backed securities were complete garbage, and were actually involved in it. Things like the AAA credit ratings from "independent" agencies, presumably shielding themselves from liability by limiting actual involvement and knowledge to low and mid-level thugs (see, Levin's "lovely Deal" hearings), as Mafia leaders did in the past. The government has been trying to nail Steven A. Cohen for 10 years for basically building a fortune entirely from insider trading, and have failed to get a strong enough case to prosecute him even though they (a) loving hate him and (b) 11 or so of his staff have been sentenced to prison. I don't think we're necessarily arguing different points here. As underwriters (mostly done by investment banks and the like, who also tend to put these assets together into mortgage pools, to be divied up by a trustee and sold to some poor fools), the fact they signed on to and said these deals were actually good counts as willfully misleading investors, not necessitating the discovery of intent. Which goes along with the '33 act, "or any person who willfully, in a registration statement filed under this subchapter, makes any untrue statement of a material fact or omits to state any material fact required to be stated". This is what the government has tried to do in going after these guys so far, though unfortunately with no luck so far. That doesn't necessarily mean that should hold in the future, considering the blatant nature of the evidence that has leaked to the public about the malicious nature of how some of these bankers worked. Look at the Federal Crisis Inquiry Commision, fraud was used more than a hundred times in the report. I'd recommend reading this article by an actual federal judge on the matter: http://www.nybooks.com/articles/archives/2014/jan/09/financial-crisis-why-no-executive-prosecutions/
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