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Is there a single outspoken conservative with even the tiniest bit of class?
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May 10, 2014 05:07
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drat, another actor I used to really like whose political opinions have completely destroyed their likability. File with Fred Thompson, Patricia Heaton, John Voight, Vince Vaughn, etc etc etc.
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May 10, 2014 05:09
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The Ape of Naples posted:To be fair, Google will add "feet" to the search of almost any woman.  I was better off when I didn't know this.
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May 10, 2014 05:19
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Is there a single outspoken conservative with even the tiniest bit of class? RDJ and Gary Sinise? Kelsey Grammar because of Frasier if nothing else.
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May 10, 2014 05:21
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computer parts posted:RDJ and Gary Sinise? Isn't true that Mel Gibson is fine as long as he is sober?
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May 10, 2014 05:27
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computer parts posted:RDJ and Gary Sinise? Boss. Now that was a TV show.. ..at times.
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May 10, 2014 05:32
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computer parts posted:RDJ and Gary Sinise? RDJ isn't very outspoken. Gary Sinise is a good example, although he calls to mind the more sane Republicans of the past.
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May 10, 2014 05:33
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mr. mephistopheles posted:RDJ isn't very outspoken. Adam Baldwin (of Full Metal Jacket, and Firefly, and Chuck) is a fairly standard issue right-wing talk radio rear end in a top hat. Anybody got a link to RDJ on politics? What is his thing? Taxphobe? Don't do drugs, ask me how I know? or which?
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May 10, 2014 05:39
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Is there a single outspoken conservative with even the tiniest bit of class? Ron Paul was when he was holding up the Constitution and plainly stating how invading Iraq was immoral and illegal. We all know how he fell from grace since then. I used to know all of The Good Ones because I would listen to C-SPAN while painting, but I haven't had TV in years. Chuck Grassley is actually pretty good. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chuck_Grassley
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May 10, 2014 05:42
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Hasn't Kelsey Grammar tried to kickstart one or two low-budget networks dedicated to "comedy" that exclusively shits on the poor and disenfranchised?
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May 10, 2014 05:42
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Slo-Tek posted:Adam Baldwin (of Full Metal Jacket, and Firefly, and Chuck) is a fairly standard issue right-wing talk radio rear end in a top hat. I think people might be confused with Morton Downey Junior, who had a TV talk show in the 80s where he loved to spout phrases like "pablum puking liberal" at guests and generally shout racist things.
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May 10, 2014 05:47
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You can google the exact quote but RDJ basically said that you don't go to prison and come out a liberal. Which doesn't make any loving sense to me, but that's what he said. Disappointing about Adam Baldwin.
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May 10, 2014 05:51
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Post 9-11 User posted:Chuck Grassley is actually pretty good. Chuck has kinda gone rightwing shithead in the last few years as the state GOP has gone full nutter. I assume in an attempt to stay on the right side of the base so he can hand off his seat to his grandson Pat who's currently in the statehouse. Most guesses are he'll be on the ballot come 2016. When the whole Mark Foley (Fox: D-FL) affair was going on I actually had a chance to ask Grassley about it and he tried to invoke Bill Clinton. When I asked him how many underage interns parents had entrusted to the democrats' care were involved in that one he lost the whole "Aww shucks farmer" routine and I ended up with an angry bony finger pointed in my face before he caught himself.
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May 10, 2014 06:57
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mr. mephistopheles posted:You can google the exact quote but RDJ basically said that you don't go to prison and come out a liberal. Which doesn't make any loving sense to me, but that's what he said. The quote was about going from staying at lavish hotels to sleeping in a prison cell. Maybe he got religion or something, ie "it was easy being a liberal when I was a rich spoiled guy, but you need more than that once you lose everything". A conservative friend of mine always talks about the value in submitting yourself to a higher power, maybe that's what he meant. Liberalism = weakness, self-centeredness, etc. The whole John Wayne mythology thing.
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May 10, 2014 07:04
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:In order to share the wealth and spread the pain like a good socialist I feel it's my obligation to pass on to this thread what a tremendous douche this guy Nick Searcy, an actor on 'Justified', seems to be. He was being interviewed on my local AM station today by the local AM "libertarian" *wink* *wink* who was lapping up his poo poo in full force. The gist of it is this dude is cool because he directly insults "the left" on Twitter. That's the guy who did the He Carried Yellow Flowers commercial for Herman Cain. I still like Justified.
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May 10, 2014 07:13
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beatlegs posted:The quote was about going from staying at lavish hotels to sleeping in a prison cell. Maybe he got religion or something, ie "it was easy being a liberal when I was a rich spoiled guy, but you need more than that once you lose everything". A conservative friend of mine always talks about the value in submitting yourself to a higher power, maybe that's what he meant. Liberalism = weakness, self-centeredness, etc. The whole John Wayne mythology thing. Yeah, but it's totally easy to be liberal and believe in a higher power. I mean I can definitely see people believing that, but it still makes no sense.
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May 10, 2014 07:20
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It kinda makes sense if you think of the classical definition of liberal and not the American version. I could see "once you are barred from consumerism by the state as punishment, you say gently caress the free market, the free market is violent sociopaths. I had my rear end traded for a pack of smokes, no don't loosen trade restrictions!"
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May 10, 2014 07:33
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mr. mephistopheles posted:Yeah, but it's totally easy to be liberal and believe in a higher power. I mean I can definitely see people believing that, but it still makes no sense. He probably just associated his former gluttonous lifestyle with liberalism. "God, I personally sucked when I was a liberal. That must mean conservatism is the answer."
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May 10, 2014 07:53
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beatlegs posted:He probably just associated his former gluttonous lifestyle with liberalism. "God, I personally sucked when I was a liberal. That must mean conservatism is the answer." Yeah I see that quite a bit. Person has moral failings while a liberal, obviously it was being a liberal that was the problem, not being an alcoholic or drug addict or whatever. You can replace liberal there with pretty much anything though and you can find examples out there.
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May 10, 2014 08:21
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beatlegs posted:He probably just associated his former gluttonous lifestyle with liberalism. "God, I personally sucked when I was a liberal. That must mean conservatism is the answer." You see similar things with ex-smokers. Some people feel they need to remake themselves to break their bad habits. It's somewhat pathetic.
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May 10, 2014 09:15
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Slo-Tek posted:Adam Baldwin (of Full Metal Jacket, and Firefly, and Chuck) is a fairly standard issue right-wing talk radio rear end in a top hat. I didn't know the names of the actors but when you said firefly I thought it was probably that guy, and I guessed right. I once wrote up (but didn't bother to post) a slightly effortful post about how Firefly is a perfect capture of the rightward-leaning American's take on things, idealized of course. Especially the Confederate and cowboy gear in space are the best little frommages. I was at first taken back that it was a Fox production, but then it dawned on me that it was a perfect science fiction movie to draw nerds into the right-wing view as it stands today. SnakePlissken fucked around with this message at 10:24 on May 10, 2014 |
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May 10, 2014 10:22
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SnakePlissken posted:I didn't know the names of the actors but when you said firefly I thought it was probably that guy, and I guessed right. I once wrote up (but didn't bother to post) a slightly effortful post about how Firefly is a perfect capture of the rightward-leaning American's take on things, idealized of course. Especially the Confederate and cowboy gear in space are the best little frommages. I was at first taken back that it was a Fox production, but then it dawned on me that it was a perfect science fiction movie to draw nerds into the right-wing view as it stands today. I'd never thought about it that way, but yeah. The main characters lost a civil war and spend their time stealing and running from the law. The government is evil. Geez, Whedon.
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May 10, 2014 17:08
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Hazo posted:Hasn't Kelsey Grammar tried to kickstart one or two low-budget networks dedicated to "comedy" that exclusively shits on the poor and disenfranchised? Funny thing. Check out the executive producer: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Girlfriends I know a woman who was mad as hell that I lol'd over the irony of Kelsey Grammar being EP on Girlfriends. "Why? Because it's a show about black women and he's a white guy?" "Uh no, because he's a total rear end in a top hat to women."
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May 10, 2014 17:45
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Hazo posted:Hasn't Kelsey Grammar tried to kickstart one or two low-budget networks dedicated to "comedy" that exclusively shits on the poor and disenfranchised? Nah I think he mainly tried to start yet another right wing humor 'channel' that was basically "Heh Liberals love abortion BUT WHAT IF SOMEONE THEY LIKE WAS ABORTED, boom roasted" kinda thing, but I don't think he took much of a proper stance beyond that. Also he was in that right wing christmas carol which was hilarious/terrible
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May 10, 2014 17:49
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Hazo posted:Hasn't Kelsey Grammar tried to kickstart one or two low-budget networks dedicated to "comedy" that exclusively shits on the poor and disenfranchised? It was a whole network but there was a terrible comedy show slated for it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_mQPvKXw3U
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May 10, 2014 17:54
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Soviet Commubot posted:It was a whole network but there was a terrible comedy show slated for it. Well, that was certainly not funny at all.
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May 10, 2014 18:14
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Soviet Commubot posted:It was a whole network but there was a terrible comedy show slated for it.  I don't have dental insurance! LOL! Take that liberals!
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May 10, 2014 18:30
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I like how the guy's working-the-crowd "So who likes Barack Obama?" revealed that the audience was pre-screened, selected to enjoy his jokes, and still didn't find him particularly funny. I wonder about niche entertainment. Do these guys typically feel that way or is it just so much easier as a big fish in a tiny pond? It seems that a mediocre comedian can get gigs at Republican or Tea party functions, since the material suits their tastes and there isn't much competition. And Jesus, the stuff they showcased for that promo: Obama, Obama, black people do like this (NOT RACIST SINCE THE COMEDIAN IS BLACK), i have no healthcare gently caress ILLEGALS GET OUT. 
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May 10, 2014 18:59
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You know what, I started to say that I was disappointed in Searcy not because he's conservative, but because he's an insane conservative. But really, as much as I dislike right-wing politics and the figureheads on that side, I'm not sure I can really fault the guy anymore than anyone else for getting into retarded online exchanges with assholes. Is he an rear end in a top hat, too? Yeah, he seems to be. But I don't think I'm an rear end in a top hat (and most of my friends would probably agree), and yet if you read some of my exchanges with people pushing my buttons on Facebook or Reddit, you might think I was. Because people push other peoples' buttons online, and while it's immature to act like a child and a dick online, it's not as if people of every political stripe engage in that sort of poo poo. Searcy's posts wouldn't be noteworthy if he wasn't a semi-famous actor. So really, they're not all that noteworthy, period. Searcy's allowed to have his own political views and be a dick about it, just like Sean Penn is. And who gives a poo poo, really? Worry about the people who are actively causing harm - Limbaugh, for example - and just ignore the political opinions of people whose political opinions are pretty much inconsequential. It's how I approach a number of my friends (who are very far right). We just don't talk politics, and I've long ago hidden their feeds on Facebook (those who actually are on Facebook) so I'm not tempted to get into it with them. Walter fucked around with this message at 19:18 on May 10, 2014 |
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May 10, 2014 19:15
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The realism of the experience is really enhanced by watching that Right2Laugh clip with Squidbillies playing in the background on low volume. The barely audible exclamations of, "Aw hell, Granny!" "git you some!" and such makes it feel like you're right there in the audience with them.
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May 10, 2014 20:59
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UFOTofuTacoCat posted:
How is the joke "my dental plan is chew on the side that doesn't hurt" supposed to be anything but an indictment of conservatism? Haha, liberals with their foofy dentists! As a Real American I can't afford to get a tooth fixed and I spend my entire life in pain, as is my God-given right!
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May 10, 2014 21:36
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Rygar201 posted:This is actually Super Effective. At least I finally know what the S. E. stands for.
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May 10, 2014 23:00
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Soviet Commubot posted:It was a whole network but there was a terrible comedy show slated for it. Can't you just be a comedian without being overtly political to be funny? The fact that these guys feel they have to make a show of them being right winger comedians really makes it less about the humor and more about themselves and necessarily lessens the quality of the material. Jeff Foxworthy would be a lot less funny if all he did were 'Obama sucks' jokes.
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May 10, 2014 23:30
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Rip Testes posted:Can't you just be a comedian without being overtly political to be funny? The fact that these guys feel they have to make a show of them being right winger comedians really makes it less about the humor and more about themselves and necessarily lessens the quality of the material. Jeff Foxworthy would be a lot less funny if all he did were 'Obama sucks' jokes.
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May 10, 2014 23:40
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Even the title screams persecution complex. "Right 2 Laugh", because even in this world where progressive nazis keep us down, we have a "right" to be funny too.
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May 10, 2014 23:43
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Especially when your jokes are things like "I want a coin with the face of a President I Don't Like on it because mistakes are more valuable to collectors." If your sick burn on person/group you don't like can be replaced by its exact opposite without changing the wording, then it's poo poo joke scraped from the bottom of the humor barrel. Anyway, back to practicing for my future career in left-wing comedy. "Hey, what do you call a boat full of Republicans at the bottom of the ocean? A good start!"
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May 10, 2014 23:48
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beatlegs posted:Even the title screams persecution complex. "Right 2 Laugh", because even in this world where progressive nazis keep us down, we have a "right" to be funny too. That's true. I suppose the title along with the emphasis on right wing political 'humor' is felt necessary by some of these folks to remain convincingly a part of their conservative in-group while working within an ostensibly liberal profession.
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May 11, 2014 00:18
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Rip Testes posted:Can't you just be a comedian without being overtly political to be funny? The fact that these guys feel they have to make a show of them being right winger comedians really makes it less about the humor and more about themselves and necessarily lessens the quality of the material. Jeff Foxworthy would be a lot less funny if all he did were 'Obama sucks' jokes. The guy at :30 talking about how "comedy is a weapon" is pretty telling about the actual reason for the whole thing.
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May 11, 2014 00:19
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"...from the right values, the better values, coming from the comedic side." - A guy making jokes at the expense of impoverished Mexicans
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May 11, 2014 01:00
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It's so tragic. Can you imagine what a deliberately left-wing comedy show would be like, that actually prized political correctness over comedy?
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May 11, 2014 01:25
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