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Ben's much more likely to get in then Eli, as outside of rings, they're not very similar at all career wise.BlindSite posted:Makes me wonder how hard it'll be for Moss to get in given he burned three or four years wallowing on poo poo teams simply because he was a dick bag. If Randy Moss isn't in your hall of fame, then why would you have a hall of fame?
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May 12, 2014 06:39
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So you can have Lynn Swann in it of course
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May 12, 2014 06:41
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Kalli posted:Ben's much more likely to get in then Eli, as outside of rings, they're not very similar at all career wise. Eli's had way better Superbowls then Ben, and that counts for something with the voters.
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May 12, 2014 06:46
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Has Ben ever been the best 3 or 4 QB's in the league in any of his years? Even in his best (2007?) he was 14th in yards. If you want to put someone in just because they have 2 rings that's fine, but at least Eli was the SB mvp.
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May 12, 2014 06:50
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If Eli Manning gets in the Hall of Fame he will immediately become the worst person in the Hall of Fame. A quarterback in this day and age with a career 81.2 passer rating? That's got to be bottom 10 of the league material at this point.
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May 12, 2014 06:55
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davecrazy posted:Eli's had way better Superbowls then Ben, and that counts for something with the voters. I actually don't believe that does mean anything, rings are rings given a certain (mediocreish) level of play during your career. Eli has the signature moments going for him over Ben which sadly does seem to mean something judging by Lynn Swann.
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May 12, 2014 07:08
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I hope Rivers gets in after the Chargers win a Super Bowl the last 2 years before he retires Elway-style and Eli and Ben are both relegated to the Hall of Very Good forever.
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May 12, 2014 07:30
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Ben probably cements himself an eventual spot the moment he actually has a season where he throws a bunch and makes his volume stats look a bit better.
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May 12, 2014 07:34
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Zerilan posted:Ben probably cements himself an eventual spot the moment he actually has a season where he throws a bunch and makes his volume stats look a bit better. Meanwhile, if Eli has another couple garbage seasons like last year before hanging them up and makes his rate stats look even worse, maybe he drops out of contention. With the New York media machine behind him I'm not holding my breath.
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May 12, 2014 07:42
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shiksa posted:I hope Rivers gets in after the Chargers win a Super Bowl the last 2 years before he retires Elway-style and Eli and Ben are both relegated to the Hall of Very Good forever. yes
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May 12, 2014 09:10
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Eli also has a billion 4th quarter comebacks to his name. He seems to kind of suck all around now, but for a while there, you might as well be tied if you're going into the 4th with a 14 point lead against the Giants. That'll count for something because clutch.
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May 12, 2014 11:15
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Raider Press conferences own
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May 12, 2014 13:39
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Parmesan Basil  quote:As explained by Peter King of The MMQB.com, the two second-rounders the 49ers got from the Chiefs were moved around in a total of five deals and resulted in the 49ers obtaining defensive lineman Tank Carradine, outside linebacker Corey Lemonier, inside linebacker Chris Borland, running back Carlos Hyde and wide receiver Stevie Johnson.
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May 12, 2014 13:46
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Ozu posted:Parmesan Basil I wish I was a 49ers fan this year. I'm still waiting to see what Lattimore can do.
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May 12, 2014 14:26
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Zerilan posted:Ben probably cements himself an eventual spot the moment he actually has a season where he throws a bunch and makes his volume stats look a bit better. He's had 3 seasons of over 500 pass attempts, and those are the only seasons he's gone over 4000 yards in his 10 year career Rivers is superior in every major statistical category except for total yards, and even then Roethlisberger is only ahead by 2000 yards despite being the starter from the beginning while Rivers had to be the backup for 2 years. Rivers is simultaneously more efficient and more durable and is a down home bolo tie wearing goodnik. but Roethlisberger will still get in ahead of him because of 1. Steeler and 2.Rings FeedingHam2Cats fucked around with this message at 14:34 on May 12, 2014 |
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May 12, 2014 14:26
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355 unread posts.  Did I miss anything important?
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May 12, 2014 14:37
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FeedingHam2Cats posted:He's had 3 seasons of over 500 pass attempts, and those are the only seasons he's gone over 4000 yards in his 10 year career 3. Ben is also better at football statslord Edit: Number of QBs who have made tackles to save postseasons: 1 Number of QBs to stand behind the worst ever Super Bowl winning offensive line: 1 Number of QBs to win their first 15 starts: 1 Arguments that Ben is not a HoF QB hinge on ignoring the unique parts of his game that make him great. Peyton Manning rightfully has an argument for GOAT and Ben is not on his level (maybe not on the level right below that either). However I submit that the Broncos would have been better off with Ben in the Super Bowl because of his ability to improvise. There's a short list of QBs who are in that category and Rivers/Eli are not on it. Moxie fucked around with this message at 15:55 on May 12, 2014 |
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May 12, 2014 15:09
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FeedingHam2Cats posted:He's had 3 seasons of over 500 pass attempts, and those are the only seasons he's gone over 4000 yards in his 10 year career Well yeah, but nobody even pretends Romo has a chance at the HoF anymore, so what chance does Rivers have?
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May 12, 2014 15:20
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Romo is going to solidify his HoF credentials as he wins both MVP for the season and Super Bowl MVP this next season.
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May 12, 2014 15:23
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Ozu posted:Parmesan Basil Surprise, surprise. A good team takes advantage of a new lovely GM and succeeds.
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May 12, 2014 15:29
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Eli, Rivers, and Ben all aren't very good compared to the QBs that are in the HoF. They are, however, good for right now, and that's enough to get them in. Ben and Eli are undoubtedly Hall of Famers, Rivers will never sniff it unless he gets a Super Bowl ring, and Romo is a joke if you honestly think he'll get in with his resume. Super Bowl wins rule the HoF. You need to be exceptionally amazing to get in without them, meaning 7-10 pro bowl selections, 3-7 all pros, winning MVP, DMVP, OMVP, or setting statistical records over and over.
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May 12, 2014 15:34
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According to the NFL, these are the top 5 selling rookie jerseys as of this morning: 1. Johnny Manziel 2. Michael Sam 3. Jadeveon Clowney 4. Teddy Bridgewater 5. Blake Bortles
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May 12, 2014 15:39
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Sweeney Tom posted:2. Michael Sam 
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May 12, 2014 15:49
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N: In order to sign the incoming seventeen UDFA's, the Jaguars have to make room and so have cut Will Rackley. V:    Next up, Chris Prosinski.
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May 12, 2014 15:52
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Sweeney Tom posted:5. Blake Bortles
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May 12, 2014 15:53
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I mean, they're not wrong that paying a RB $12m is terrible cap management, but still.quote:CBSSports.com
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May 12, 2014 15:55
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They should trade him to Dallas for 2 firsts and 4 more assorted midround picks
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May 12, 2014 16:00
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If Chris Berman starts calling him Teddy Bridge "Over Troubled" Water he owes all royalties to me.
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May 12, 2014 16:01
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Blitz7x posted:Raider Press conferences own The MIGHTY Oakland Rrrrrraiders (c) Old man Willie.
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May 12, 2014 16:10
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Ozu posted:I mean, they're not wrong that paying a RB $12m is terrible cap management, but still. THE BROWNS WOULD LIKE 1 ADRIAN PETERSON PLEASE! Maybe something like a 2nd and some staph? I kinda get age and wear but until Adrian tanks I don't fathom dealing him.
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May 12, 2014 16:17
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Chris Gaines posted:If Chris Berman starts calling him Teddy Bridge "Over Troubled" Water he owes all royalties to me. You know the first time he struggles newspapers will trip over each other to be the first to use that pun.
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May 12, 2014 16:17
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Chris Gaines posted:If Chris Berman starts calling him Teddy Bridge "Over Troubled" Water he owes all royalties to me. He used to use that nickname all the time for Ricky Watters. It was that or Ricky 'Running' Watters.
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May 12, 2014 16:18
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Doltos posted:Eli, Rivers, and Ben all aren't very good compared to the QBs that are in the HoF. They are, however, good for right now, and that's enough to get them in. Ben and Eli are undoubtedly Hall of Famers, Rivers will never sniff it unless he gets a Super Bowl ring, and Romo is a joke if you honestly think he'll get in with his resume. Andre Johnson is going to miss on the HoF isn't he? 
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May 12, 2014 16:19
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Intruder posted:Andre Johnson is going to miss on the HoF isn't he? Yeah but it's not like he's the NFL's Craig Biggio or anything
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May 12, 2014 16:25
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Moxie posted:However I submit that the Broncos would have been better off with Ben in the Super Bowl because of his ability to improvise. There's a short list of QBs who are in that category and Rivers/Eli They would have been better with Eli Manning because if Eli is good for one thing it's bullshitting out a win in a big game
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May 12, 2014 16:31
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Intruder posted:Andre Johnson is going to miss on the HoF isn't he? He might get in like an Andre Reed and to pay lip service to the Texan's first real face of the franchise. He definitely won't be first ballot. I doubt Eli or Ben will be first ballot either.
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May 12, 2014 16:32
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Anyway, gently caress the Hall of Fame it's dumb
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May 12, 2014 16:33
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FeedingHam2Cats posted:Anyway, gently caress the Hall of Fame it's dumb HoF is dumb and so are the arguments that spawn from it. Only thing that matters is ~ringz~
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May 12, 2014 16:38
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Mods can we get a ban on this chucklefuck!!??
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McNabb should get in. He dominated 2001-2004. Four NFC Championship games and a SuperBowl appearance. Plus he made a whole city hate him. Crown him.
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