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Tim Chuma posted:In all honesty I was going to try to do something on this site, but too many people are posting stupid poo poo or want support just to run things that should be a hobby. I have poured all my money for the last ten years and most of my time into my own work and thought I might be able to get some support. Bollocks to that idea then.... So because other people are getting money for poo poo things you're not going to try for what you feel is your own not-poo poo thing?
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HowSoonIsNow posted:No takers yet Give it time.
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I'm very happy that Patreon exists. It's helping me do cool things I wouldn't otherwise be able to do. It makes a lot more sense than Kickstarter does for the kind of ongoing work I like to create and support. All that said, the "Discover" tab is fraught with ASMR videos and NSFW webcomics. It'd be cool if that stuff wasn't so apparent on the surface... But I feel like the service is so new that it hasn't reached a critical mass of non-embarrassing things to feature.
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May 13, 2014 06:28
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Just googled ASMR. Nerds are good at coming up with new retarded things to obsess over.
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RottenK posted:Just googled ASMR. I would sponsor a Patreon for somebody doing a psychiatric study to prove that ASMR is a real thing and not just the newest special snowflake self-diagnosis du jour or some weird fetish.
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Tim Chuma posted:Can we include Patreon on this? I am too scared to start a new thread. They're nearly up to $5000 now. Remember that this isn't a one off lump sum, it's $5k of automated payments every month. Zach Weinersmith of SMBC is getting over $8k per month (that's about $100,000 annually, minus fees and taxes) and even Tim Buckley is pulling in over $2.5k monthly from Patreon. Creators can also set the donation schedule to "per creation" rather than "per month". Filmcow (the Charlie the Unicorn people) are only pulling $900 per video but they pump out several videos every month. Edit: okay I've been scrolling through the Patreon listings for a while now and they're mostly Minecraft fans, LOL random! youtubers, deviantart furry erotica artists, LPers, webcomic artists, 'writers', creepy dudes, "happiness creators" and the like and most of them have between zero to $12 in monthly pledges, most likely pity pledges from aunts and uncles. There's also a bunch of hilarious guys who have tried to set up Patreon accounts to support them doing nothing. And then every now and then there'll be something like this:  http://www.patreon.com/user?u=141031 quote:Pledge $20.00 or more per month (Limited 3 of 3 left) Yep, if you agree to pay her $240 annually she'll send you a photo. Giving her $1,200 a year will earn you a leaf! But there's only two leaves available so you'd better RUSH to grab one. Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 12:30 on May 13, 2014 |
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May 13, 2014 10:55
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:They're nearly up to $5000 now. Remember that this isn't a one off lump sum, it's $5k of automated payments every month. Zach Weinersmith of SMBC is getting over $8k per month (that's about $100,000 annually, minus fees and taxes) and even Tim Buckley is pulling in over $2.5k monthly from Patreon. You can also limit how much you're willing to donate per month, so that creators couldn't just churn out three hundred zero-content videos in one month and disappear with all the money. That's slightly better than kickstarter, I guess. Edit: Also, love the photo on that patreon. 
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May 13, 2014 12:23
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RottenK posted:Just googled ASMR. e: Also of course Patreon's home to a whopping quantity of garbage, it's on the Internet.
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May 13, 2014 12:47
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ASMR is just goosebumps, right? That's the poo poo they're describing? This is almost as sad as the time all those 4chan kiddies convinced themselves that binaural beats is CYBERDRUGS.
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May 13, 2014 12:56
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May 13, 2014 12:57
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:ASMR is just goosebumps, right? That's the poo poo they're describing? I believe the preferred nomenclature is "tingles" killstealing posted:In zachs defense his comic is really funny No defense needed, I'm genuinely happy for him.
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May 13, 2014 13:09
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He's still named weinersmith too I mean c'mon
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May 13, 2014 13:11
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All you need to know about ASMR: (Possibly NSFW, if only because someone might think you're looking at something fetishy(probably because it is)) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RVpfHgC3ye0
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Don't tingleshame, big boobed women pretending to cut my hair is my loving poo poo PiCroft posted:All you need to know about ASMR: Better slap a trigger warning on this bitch cause this caused me to go into ASMR spasms holy poo poo i'm spurtin here
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May 13, 2014 13:22
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You weirdos, there's nothing remotely sexual about pretty women with whispery voices and lowcut tops pretending to take an interest in my work day while pretending to give me a hot oil foot massage 
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I am 100% behind folks learning how to bilk internet gasbags of their stupid dollars. I mean it's one quick step from here to actual financial bondage stuff but w/e if I was attractive and female I'd do it too. It's no JOI cuck fantasy e-book but w/e I've masturbated to weirder things. edit- aaaah oh my god lady your mouth sounds like someone trying to pick apart sheets of too-old lunch meats, pop filter that poo poo PHIZ KALIFA has a new favorite as of 13:50 on May 13, 2014 |
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PHIZ KALIFA posted:I am 100% behind folks learning how to bilk internet gasbags of their stupid dollars. I mean it's one quick step from here to actual financial bondage stuff but w/e if I was attractive and female I'd do it too. It's no JOI cuck fantasy e-book but w/e I've masturbated to weirder things. I'm okay with internet women milking weirdos for all they're worth, but that doesn't mean I can't make fun of the weirdos themselves 
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Tim Buckley is pulling in over $2.5k monthly from Patreon. 2400, after taxes is only like $2000, quick back of envelope math tells me he's making about 12 bucks an hour. He also gets no health insurance, so how's he financing all these miscarriages? Congratulations, you are a 35 year old guy with a job that pays slightly more than minimum wage?
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Jerk McJerkface posted:2400, after taxes is only like $2000, quick back of envelope math tells me he's making about 12 bucks an hour. He also gets no health insurance, so how's he financing all these miscarriages? Congratulations, you are a 35 year old guy with a job that pays slightly more than minimum wage? I don't think it's his only income. There must be people who buy t-shirts or whatever stupid merchandise he's selling. And probably ads.
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Paladinus posted:I don't think it's his only income. There must be people who buy t-shirts or whatever stupid merchandise he's selling. And probably ads. Yep. Even if he was only breaking even off those before he's now breaking even plus an extra $2,000. All he has to do every month is 'release' his regular comics early to his backers, host one 30 minute livestream , draw an "exclusive" wallpaper (which could be any old poo poo) and draw one extra strip featuring the four $100 backers as characters. He's pretty much getting a bonus $2000 every month for a day's work. Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 15:48 on May 13, 2014 |
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May 13, 2014 15:38
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killstealing posted:In zachs defense his comic is
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theflyingorc posted:In zachs defense his comic is sometimes really funny but more often than not overly pleased with itself about how smart it is queue alt text involving his wife disapproving, or the words "graph jokes"
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May 13, 2014 16:29
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Character 1: Sometimes I think about things. Character 2: Ha-ha, things? What are things? Don't you know SCIENCE? Character 1: That's why I don't like science and scientists. -- 50% of SMBC Other 50% are alright and sometimes really good
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I was wondering why Penny Arcade hadn't already dived into Patreon but it turns out they'd had pretty much the same idea for themselves a decade ago and they reopened 'Club PA' a few months back. After all, why use a funding platform to beg for donor subscriptions when you can do it yourself and save on fees? I can't find any mention of how many of their fans actually signed up except a comment that "the response has been incredible".
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May 13, 2014 16:42
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Ridiculously successful and wealthy music game dev wants you to give them money for a game not because they need it but to gauge interest. That's totally what Kickstarter is all about! 
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May 13, 2014 21:11
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I have no marketable skills. What kind of Patreon campaign should I run?
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Unguided posted:I have no marketable skills. What kind of Patreon campaign should I run? Feminism documentary.
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...of SCIENCE! posted:Ridiculously successful and wealthy music game dev wants you to give them money for a game not because they need it but to gauge interest. That's totally what Kickstarter is all about! Harmonix is ridiculously successful, but they aren't particularly wealthy. They got acquired by Viacom when Guitar Hero / Rock Band became smash hits; then, the genre got oversaturated, RockBand3 sold like poo poo, and Viacom started trying to ditch them as cheaply as possible. They ended up selling Harmonix to a private investor for $50 and wrote off the entire value of the company as a loss on their taxes. Harmonix immediately went into restructuring, and laid off roughly a quarter of their company. They're now a relatively small company, by video game developer standards; they're turning over good profits, but the bulk of that is them living off of ongoing DLC sales from Rock Band and Dance Central. The rhythm music game is basically completely dead, so I don't think they can find an independent publisher for something like this; it's this or Steam. There's been worse abuse of Kickstarter.
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Rhonyn Peacemaker posted:Feminism documentary series. FTFY in regards to Patreon \/\/\/ Also, you'd get so much bank from people donating because they're trying to prove something. Young Freud has a new favorite as of 22:40 on May 13, 2014 |
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I think an MRA channel would fly, too. It's more niche but people are in general more dedicated.
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Tim Chuma posted:Can we include Patreon on this? I am too scared to start a new thread. Institute capital punishment for crowd funding. ...of SCIENCE! posted:Ridiculously successful and wealthy music game dev wants you to give them money for a game not because they need it but to gauge interest. That's totally what Kickstarter is all about! How's that different from what Shaqfu 2 and Mighty No. 9 did?
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Evil Fluffy posted:How's that different from what Shaqfu 2 and Mighty No. 9 did? Because people are stupid and think Kickstarter is only supposed to be for people who have no money already.
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$1,500 for a campaign to "start up a small press dedicated to helping independent writers reach a wider audience bt producing monthly chapbooks."Odium Press posted:Odium Press seeks to help authors of horror, bizarro, and other speculative fiction genres find exposure and get their products into print. We will begin small by releasing one chapbook or novella a month and hope to expand into complete short story collections after the first year and eventually into full length novels. Finally, a venue for my Bitcoin slasher story. I don't know poo poo about the business side of books, but I do know that printing's expensive. Surely, if this were funded, all the money would be gone after a single print run if they don't burn it all on the web-hosting and design work?
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Paladinus posted:I think an MRA channel would fly, too. It's more niche but people are in general more dedicated.
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tlarn posted:I don't know poo poo about the business side of books, but I do know that printing's expensive. Surely, if this were funded, all the money would be gone after a single print run if they don't burn it all on the web-hosting and design work? They could be [and should be] using a service like Create Space, which only prints a copy of the book when someone actually buys it and then takes a cut of the sale price. It would cut down on their ability to get into book shops, of course, but that's probably the least of their worries.
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sinking belle posted:Dedicated to what
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"Getting published" in a paying market is important if you're trying to start a career or sidejob doing genre fiction in general. This includes making you eligible for winning awards and poo poo and getting considered for publishing in the actual big time magazines and publishing houses. This kickstarter company probably won't even publish actual paper copies of the stories, but that's not needed as online-only publishing has been considered ok for quite a while. I think I'm missing some details here, someone who actually does it for a living would know more about it.
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sinking belle posted:Dedicated to what To watching stupid videos that are in line with their opinions.
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Evil Fluffy posted:How's that different from what Shaqfu 2 and Mighty No. 9 did? Shaq-Fu 2 was an indie company that bought the Shaq-Fu rights and Mighty No 9 was a new company. If Capcom had been running a Kickstarter for a new Megaman game as a way of gauging interest I'm pretty sure people would be making fun of them too.
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