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Abandoning allows you to find it in adventure, IIRC, but life doesn't go on there- all the poo poo will be scattered around and inhabited by monsters and such.
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hailthefish posted:Abandoning allows you to find it in adventure, IIRC, but life doesn't go on there- all the poo poo will be scattered around and inhabited by monsters and such. Additionally, all of your former dwarves just decide to wander the wilds as a giant group. You'll find them just loitering in the middle of a field, like some sort of weird dwarven spring break.
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Hm. I should not abandon my fortress just yet, then. Looks like I have to wait for an update before being able to retire a fortress to minding itself while I adventure or make a new civilization. I will be most curious to find out what the many, many adventure mode features are like once an update is released.
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scamtank posted:Not this month it hasn't. June 14th is the magic number to pass. Didn't Toady says something about not getting to any more milestones, so we should have the update before then! (Yeah, I know, but I can be hopeful.)
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scamtank posted:Not this month it hasn't. June 14th is the magic number to pass. Hey, that's when my kid is due! He'll surely be covered in filth in no time.
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Bad Munki posted:Hey, that's when my kid is due! He'll surely be covered in filth in no time. remember to give them armour diapers, you'll never have to change them.
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Bad Munki posted:Hey, that's when my kid is due! He'll surely be covered in filth in no time. If they spend several days at a stretch drinking alcohol directly from the barrel, you have a problem. IDC how normal an occurrence this is in DF.
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Suicide Sam E. posted:Hm. I should not abandon my fortress just yet, then. The only thing that you have to watch out for is things in cages (like goblins) will probably be out and about in the fort, too. I'd recommend making sure your map is clear of any hostiles before retiring the fort to avoid dwarves getting hurt. Moridin920 posted:I like to get a fortress started, train up a dwarf and equip him or her with the best gear I can, and then take that dwarf adventuring. Moridin920 fucked around with this message at 20:35 on May 12, 2014 |
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Moridin920 posted:
Will they give quests? I once put a fort a bit near a goblin stronghold. Closer than I realized at embark. Once I realized this I was worried about them coming to kill the dwarves, the lack of armor and decent weapons. After a year I started getting suspicious. It turned out the goblins were neutral, just minding their own business standing sentry in their stronghold. Interesting bug. I ended up killing all the ones on the surface to equip my militia.
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I'm not sure if they give quests, but you can talk to them and recruit them, and they have the full range of conversation choices like any other NPC.
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Is there any mod, trick, special technique or pretty much anything to make building surface forts not such a huge pain in the rear end? I want to try another one but building via walls is such a giant pain in the rear end.
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Diogines posted:Is there any mod, trick, special technique or pretty much anything to make building surface forts not such a huge pain in the rear end? I want to try another one but building via walls is such a giant pain in the rear end. One of the improvements in the last update greatly reduced the chance of a dwarf making a construction from a position which would leave them no path out. So there is that (finally). Also instead of making blocks at a mason's workshop going from 1 stone = 1 block, it now makes 4 or 6 blocks. Also it helps if you place block/lumber/stone stockpiles near the location where your wall will be. So in short, no. Surface forts still cool, still a giant pain in the rear end.
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Diogines posted:Is there any mod, trick, special technique or pretty much anything to make building surface forts not such a huge pain in the rear end? I want to try another one but building via walls is such a giant pain in the rear end. There are some dfhack plugins that make it a little easier logistically. Like the ability to make a wall 100 tiles long instead having to do 10 walls 10 tiles long. The masterwork mod, among other things, makes surface forts less of a pain. There are tree farms, block-colorers, and lots of other stuff that makes material collection easier. It also includes/integrates a lot of the awesome dfhack plugins.
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Diogines posted:Is there any mod, trick, special technique or pretty much anything to make building surface forts not such a huge pain in the rear end? I want to try another one but building via walls is such a giant pain in the rear end. Sure! The easiest way is to locate your surface fort several z-levels underground, preferably in a nice layer of ore-rich stone. 
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Build an underground fort and excavate it!
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hailthefish posted:Build an underground fort and excavate it!  You are a genius.
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hailthefish posted:Build an underground fort and excavate it! Yes, this is the best option. 
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PublicOpinion posted:Yes, this is the best option. I hope nobody is looking because I am stealing the hell out of that design.
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Anyone an expert in how megabeast / titan / forgotten beast encounters are determined? In particular, I'm curious if DF actually models the above wandering around and sometimes wandering into your fort as a simulation, or if it's just a random event; if it is just a random event, how does it pick what monster you get and are megabeasts and titans drawn from the same pool or from separate ones?
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:Anyone an expert in how megabeast / titan / forgotten beast encounters are determined? Megabeasts that come to your fort are much, much more likely to be ones with lairs near your fort itself. So, if you have a roc's nest a day's walk away and a dragon's cave three weeks away, you're almost definitely going to be getting that roc as your first megabeast visitor. Titans and forgotten beasts, as far as I know, are just crafted from the aether.
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Daeren posted:Megabeasts that come to your fort are much, much more likely to be ones with lairs near your fort itself. So, if you have a roc's nest a day's walk away and a dragon's cave three weeks away, you're almost definitely going to be getting that roc as your first megabeast visitor. Titans and forgotten beasts, as far as I know, are just crafted from the aether. I'm trying to figure out how to get dragons to attack my fort instead of just titans and forgotten beasts all the time. Titans, at least, aren't just crafted out of the aether; you can specify number of titans at world generation and they have proper histories like a megabeast. What I'd really like is a way to precisely specify the number of forgotten beasts generated with the world but it doesn't seem to be possible. Judging by legend mode it looks like they're 1:1 with traditional megabeasts but that's even worse because it means I can't even up the odds by just generating more of the former. edit: The wiki suggests their population is affected by world size. Maybe I can mess with the ratio; time to try a pocket dimension. edit2: It works! I got only 12 forgotten beasts in a pocket dimension even with 400 megabeasts. I wonder how high I can go before the game stops letting me add more megabeasts (or before they destroy all civilization before worldgen completes.) Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 06:39 on May 13, 2014 |
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ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND MEGABEASTS... freezes up the game if you try it in a pocket dimension. Next up, something a little more modest.
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND MEGABEASTS... freezes up the game if you try it in a pocket dimension. Next up, something a little more modest.  I was way psyched the first time one of my civilizations was attacked by a dragon. Then I was sad she got caught in a cage trap. My militia massed and murdered her. Then we made dragon soap. Wouldn't mind a few more dragons...
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Suicide Sam E. posted:
I caught and tamed a dragon once. Then I chained it out front as the best watch dog ever. It worked pretty well, except when a kobold or something showed up, it started a huge grassfire that burned everything on this side of the river. Grassfires are FPS death. Could have been worse though. At least it wasn't guarding the booze stockpile.
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*pounding and grunting noises*Toady One posted:More fixing of things. I'm in the middle of cleaning up further problems that cropped up with sparring, and perhaps an older bug there with how the unassigned lists of students are maintained. Lots of other stuff... buggy climbing announcements, a problem that arose climbing while losing your hold heading downward, some tweaking of the new wg megabeast attacks, other broken combat training, some more information as you travel in tunnels, fixed up evaporation of sweat/tears/etc. so dwarves wouldn't be so clean-happy, changed contaminant drinking, and so on. Reaction modding alert: globs have an amount more like liquids/powders/bars now (came up during the contaminant stuff since it needed to be homogenized).
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Tuxedo Catfish posted:ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND MEGABEASTS... freezes up the game if you try it in a pocket dimension. Next up, something a little more modest. Isn't one of the worldgen parameters the percentage of megabeasts that have to die off before worldgen will end?
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Flesh Forge posted:Isn't one of the worldgen parameters the percentage of megabeasts that have to die off before worldgen will end? Can't you stop worldgen at any time?
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Yes, and you can also set a hard date at which it will end, just saying that if your goal is to have lots of megabeasts then you probably need to do more than just increase the number of megabeasts.
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Do megabeasts ever meet in world gen and fight?
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Flesh Forge posted:Isn't one of the worldgen parameters the percentage of megabeasts that have to die off before worldgen will end? I always turn that off, and usually only run my worldgen to 100 years or so anyways.
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I only started playing DF about a week or so ago, and I'm really enjoying it. I usually just mess around in Fortress mode, but I did give Adventure mode a whirl once, where I died very quickly. A few questions though: 1) Is there a decent primer on how to start a textile industry? I can get my metal industry up-and-running pretty quickly, but no one seems to want to build a loom or clothier's workshop. Is it just bad luck that none of my migrant labor has Weaving or Clothesmaking, or should I invest in one of those with my starting build? 2)Up until recently, a flock of Kea had been absconding with some rocks from my outdoor quarry (I'm building turrets outside). I stationed a few Marksdwarves outside and painted the hills with Kea blood. The field was littered with broken/unbroken bolts, where I had to go manually set each as 'claimable.' For some reason, the game decides that once a bolt is fired, no dwarf should touch it again. Can this be changed, or do I have to scour every z level for retrievable ammo each skirmish? 3) I'm trying to tidy up my fortress. Is there a way to do away with cavern moss, etc, on the first few levels of my fort? 4) I know some of you are ASCII purists, but I'm enjoying the current tileset I'm using (not sure the name, but it's in the LazyNewb pack) well enough, but I really would enjoy a real-time isometric view, a la Stonesense. Is there a plug-in that allows you to play DF using such an interface? I have dreams of playing this game with a tileset not unlike that of Final Fantasy: Tactics... 5) I just had my first encounter with a Werelizard! One of my dwarves got in a tussle with it, and it quickly reverted back to human form and high-tailed it off-screen, but not before opening a nice wound in my dwarf's arm. I think she's ok now, but I think I might have a weredwarf on my hands. Her status was listed as Pale, but now is listed as Faint (in addition to nerve damage, and reduced ability to grasp). Is she going to turn at some point? how do I prepare for Urist McWereLizard? Dungeon Ecology fucked around with this message at 01:57 on May 14, 2014 |
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You can assign labors to people who don't have skills in them, in order to turn your migrant cheesemakers into something more useful. Use Dwarf Therapist to toggle the labors because the in game labor settings are annoying.
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Dungeon Ecology posted:1) Is there a decent primer on how to start a textile industry? I can get my metal industry up-and-running pretty quickly, but no one seems to want to build a loom or clothier's workshop. Is it just bad luck that none of my migrant labor has Weaving or Clothesmaking, or should I invest in one of those with my starting build? You need a farmer's workshop, a loom, and a clothier's shop. Activate the plant processing, weaving, and clothesmaking labors on one or more dwarves. The "process plants" job turns pig tails into thread, thread will be automatically turned into cloth at the loom unless you've changed the workshop settings, and the clothier turns them into clothes. Dyeing is completely pointless, don't bother with it unless you absolutely MUST have blue cloaks on your military or something. Alternatively you could use wool or silk but wool is more work and gathering silk tends to be dangerous. Also, you can turn any labor on, on any dwarf. You don't have to wait for a migrant, let alone waste starting build points on something as easy to train and relatively low-priority as clothesmaking. edit: also, to stay happy, dwarves need only a body covering, legs covering, and foot covering. Shirt, pants, shoes, and you're done. Alternatively turn your entire fortress into off-duty military and have them wear armor at all times and you never have to bother with this tedious nonsense again. Dungeon Ecology posted:For some reason, the game decides that once a bolt is fired, no dwarf should touch it again. Can this be changed, or do I have to scour every z level for retrievable ammo each skirmish? It can be changed. Go to o for orders, F for forbid options, then p to toggle between forbid/claim used ammunition. Dungeon Ecology posted:3) I'm trying to tidy up my fortress. Is there a way to do away with cavern moss, etc, on the first few levels of my fort? Build floors over them. Also anything that dwarves or animals walk over all the time will get trampled pretty quickly. Tuxedo Catfish fucked around with this message at 02:08 on May 14, 2014 |
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Dungeon Ecology posted:
Do note that this cavern moss/grass is edible fodder for grazing-type domesticated animals, and is what makes embarking on (for example) tundra or glacier totally doable. On "forbid" settings, you really want to take a close look at that menu. Typically you will want to set "forbid your dead", "forbid other non-hunted dead" and "forbid death items", so your dudes won't gang-rush the siege camp that just killed an escaping kobold thief, to get his precious cotton socks. o-F-cio
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Dungeon Ecology posted:I only started playing DF about a week or so ago, and I'm really enjoying it. I usually just mess around in Fortress mode, but I did give Adventure mode a whirl once, where I died very quickly. Tuxedo Catfish posted:It can be changed. Go to o for orders, F for forbid options, then p to toggle between forbid/claim used ammunition. Also, if you're claiming the {forbidden} you can select to un-forbid an area, and select multiple Z-levels just by changing the Z-level of the endpoint of the square. This is a newish feature and a vast improvement over going Z-level to Z-level repeating yourself. E: vast improvement Suicide Sam E. fucked around with this message at 03:38 on May 14, 2014 |
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Dungeon Ecology posted:I only started playing DF about a week or so ago, and I'm really enjoying it. I usually just mess around in Fortress mode, but I did give Adventure mode a whirl once, where I died very quickly. 1) See what Tuxedo Catfish said about setting up a textile industry, but I would like to add that dyeing is not entirely pointless. Dyeing clothing items will increase their value proportionate to the skill of the dyeing job. It's certainly not important, but if you want to trade clothing to merchants for whatever reason, dye it first. Silk can be dangerous to gather, but it can be made safer if you've got Exotic Animals set to NO in LNP, and you happen to be lucky enough that your civilization has tamed Giant Cave Spiders, which you could then request from your liaison and trade for from the caravans. They can be a lucrative source of silk if you can set up a silk farm. 2) If you don't care about selecting specific bolts or items to be reclaimed, you can go into the Stocks menu (make sure you have a bookkeeper dwarf) and reclaim whole types of items from there. 3) Constructed floors or grates will do away with mosses. Grates have the added bonus of being able to access the material below them if needed, for example sand for the glass industry. 5) Turning Pale and Faint are either from significant blood loss or a syndrome. Most likely the former. If you're worried about her turning into a were-lizard, you can construct a small quarantine room for her, stockpile some food and booze inside, and find a way to get her into the room (I'd make her the captain and lone member of a military squad and Order her to be stationed in the room then lock the door behind her.) Wait a few months to see if she changes.
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Neurion posted:1) See what Tuxedo Catfish said about setting up a textile industry, but I would like to add that dyeing is not entirely pointless. Dyeing clothing items will increase their value proportionate to the skill of the dyeing job. It's certainly not important, but if you want to trade clothing to merchants for whatever reason, dye it first. Silk can be dangerous to gather, but it can be made safer if you've got Exotic Animals set to NO in LNP, and you happen to be lucky enough that your civilization has tamed Giant Cave Spiders, which you could then request from your liaison and trade for from the caravans. They can be a lucrative source of silk if you can set up a silk farm. You probably want to look into cage traps also, because spiders etc. can be captured and trained (and when those have babies, those can even be tamed, which is better)
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Is there any way to merge the Modest mod into Peridexis? Just a case of copying over the raws into the DF installation?
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