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Tatum Girlparts posted:I don't think anyone is having trouble with a hobby that 'costs money', I'm pretty sure most of us who think this is bullshit probably either play video games or other war games like Warmachine or whatever (I sure as poo poo do), the issue is Warhammer has been on a track to go from 'this costs money' to 'this costs an obscene amount of money' for a good while now, and poo poo like a brand new edition with an 80 dollar rule book coming out just two years after the last one is really really not good. Yeah, there's a difference between (A) dropping 250 bucks on a console and a game with a recurring $50 charge every year and (B) dropping 500 bucks on books, supplies, and a starting army with a recurring $80 book charge every other year + recurring $30 supply charge every 3 months + $70 additions to your army until you've spent $2000 followed by either reduced payments or doing another $300 down payment and going back to $70 additions.
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As someone who has a fully painted Crimson Fists army, a couple of other 40k armies in various stages of completion, and who hasn't played 40k since roughly the mid-2000s (but likes to lurk the 40k threads and keep up with things), I feel qualified to say that IMO, 40k has turned into a pile of shite (in terms of both rules and fluff) over the last several years; GW is a terrible company run by a bunch of short-term, bottom-line focused panicky morons (i.e., like every other company out there these days); and it frankly boggles my mind that anyone can defend GW and their business practices (or just anything they do these days overall, really) with a straight face. Well, thanks and God Bless.
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Von Humboldt posted:Now you and Broken Loose have to fight to the death, gladiator style. I think it's now officially the Rhana Dandra; the Wolf Time
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# ? May 14, 2014 22:16 |
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Anyone seen the new GW website. Isn't that an innovation of web design.
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Boon posted:I guess that depends if you think it's a fair criticism for an Audi to cost more than a Ford. It's not exactly a yes/no answer. games workshop is not the audi in this terrible analogy
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I've just read through about 15 pages of bitching and slapfighting about the new rulebook and you know what, it doesn't really matter to me. I just bought Dark Vengeance to get into this lovely hobby and I'm in it for the long haul, I dont give a gently caress if GW starts charging me per individual rule, I'm getting my money's worth from these lovely plastic spacemen. Every time it seems like a bad idea to put more money into this horrible hobby I just put together more CSM and get high off the glue fumes, none of you can stop me.
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Noctis Horrendae posted:Does this "unbound" thread rule mean I'm allowed to post this? I sure hope so... By virtue of no longer being the worst poster in the thread, there is declared a general amnesty for all 40k thread exiles.
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Buschmaki posted:I've just read through about 15 pages of bitching and slapfighting about the new rulebook and you know what, it doesn't really matter to me. I just bought Dark Vengeance to get into this lovely hobby and I'm in it for the long haul, I dont give a gently caress if GW starts charging me per individual rule, I'm getting my money's worth from these lovely plastic spacemen. Every time it seems like a bad idea to put more money into this horrible hobby I just put together more CSM and get high off the glue fumes, none of you can stop me. You are my new favorite poster
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Esser-Z posted:Well, with an Audi you theoretically are getting a premium product. With 40k... More, don't have conversations that have been run into the floor several years ago that only results in the same overblown responses.
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seriously though it was a cool idea but every single book starring this chapter is garbage even by black library standards
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# ? May 14, 2014 22:19 |
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Winson_Paine posted:By virtue of no longer being the worst poster in the thread, there is declared a general amnesty for all 40k thread exiles. I-is that an official promotion? I
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Hollismason posted:Just gonna put this here, best thing I've read in like a week.
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S.J. posted:games workshop is not the audi in this terrible analogy Barely functional luxury from Europe that you have to spend hundreds to stay on top of doesn't sound like GW to you?
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This is the best this thread has been in a long time. I'm most excited by the return of un-inspiration picture: (just kidding, the last one owns)
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S.J. posted:games workshop is not the audi in this terrible analogy games workshop is like a geo metro that has been really nicely painted and detailed and blinged out and you go 'cool, how much is that' because it's a genuinely appealing detail job and then they quote you something that's like a dozen times the actual value of the job and besides under the hood it's still a geo metro that hasn't been maintained in years this is a more convoluted but ultimately more accurate car analogy
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panascope posted:Barely functional luxury from Europe that you have to spend gently caress me, you're right, holy poo poo nevermind i retract my previous statement JerryLee posted:games workshop is like a geo metro that has been really nicely painted and detailed and blinged out and you go 'cool, how much is that' because it's a genuinely appealing detail job and then they quote you something that's like a dozen times the actual value of the job and besides under the hood it's still a geo metro that hasn't been maintained in years Also this. The rest of this page should be dedicated to GW as car analogies.
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serious gaylord posted:More, don't have conversations that have been run into the floor several years ago that only results in the same overblown responses. Ironically a gaylord is a large box used to store other boxes for shipping.
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Von Humboldt posted:Now you and Broken Loose have to fight to the death, gladiator style. No, he and SNT have to fight to the death, like against like. I'm kinda rooting for Noctis. PeterWeller will be doing commentary - come watch as he twists himself into a pretzel and shoves his head up his rear end to make it fit THE LORE.
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Winson_Paine posted:Ironically a gaylord is a large box used to store other boxes for shipping. Boy i've stored some boxes.
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BULBASAUR posted:This is the best this thread has been in a long time. I'm most excited by the return of un-inspiration picture: The last two, really - I can't help but laugh at Kilt Marines. Need a Chaplain playing the bagpipes. Wtf did that first thing come from though
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Ugly John posted:The last two, really - I can't help but laugh at Kilt Marines. Need a Chaplain playing the bagpipes. Utilikilt marines, please.
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S.J. posted:gently caress me, you're right, holy poo poo They're an Alfa Romeo. The Styling is top notch but the build quality is terrible. Often leaves you stood at the side of the road in the pouring rain and shouting about how awful it is but then you remember that very occasionally it works and you have the time of your life.
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panascope posted:Barely functional luxury from Europe that you have to spend hundreds to stay on top of doesn't sound like GW to you? I only buy American because the TV says they're built like rocks
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Sydney Bottocks posted:As someone who has a fully painted Crimson Fists army, a couple of other 40k armies in various stages of completion, and who hasn't played 40k since roughly the mid-2000s (but likes to lurk the 40k threads and keep up with things), I feel qualified to say that IMO, 40k has turned into a pile of shite (in terms of both rules and fluff) over the last several years; GW is a terrible company run by a bunch of short-term, bottom-line focused panicky morons (i.e., like every other company out there these days); and it frankly boggles my mind that anyone can defend GW and their business practices (or just anything they do these days overall, really) with a straight face. Well, thanks and God Bless. I too think GW has a terrible business model, that they are a short-term focused company, and that they aren't developing a superior rule set. However, I also enjoy the game, the ease of access, the fluff, and I especially enjoy painting the models. So I continue to play and purchase when I need too. Do I get angry when I think that GW might be ruining the game to which I have invested money in? Yes. Then I realize that I'm not really entitled to a say with what they do with their company beyond buying or not buying their poo poo. If it gets to a stage that I can't afford to play their game then I'll probably do something else, which probably won't involve sitting in poorly kept hobby shops with some grossly overweight and unkempt individuals who get agitated if I say that I don't think the term Astra Militarum is a big deal. I guess I'm just saying that GW sucks, but they still offer what most can't. At least the things I care about. Also, this hobby has some terrible people in it - seemingly more than most. Boon fucked around with this message at 22:27 on May 14, 2014 |
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osirisisdead posted:You ain't seen my rage, bud. You guys NEED to see his rage. It's worth your time.
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Boon posted:I too think GW has a terrible business model, that they are a short-term focused company, and that they aren't developing a superior rule set. However, I also enjoy the game, the ease of access, the fluff, and I especially enjoy painting the models. So I continue to play and purchase when I need too. This is a bad effort post that I'm not reading. You should stop being so serious about overpriced kids' toys.
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serious gaylord posted:They're an Alfa Romeo. The Styling is top notch but the build quality is terrible. Often leaves you stood at the side of the road in the pouring rain and shouting about how awful it is but then you remember that very occasionally it works and you have the time of your life. guys i glued skulls to my ford focus and painted it some godawful color can i play
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FLAME ON!
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Noctis Horrendae posted:This is a bad effort post that I'm not reading. You should stop being so serious about overpriced kids' toys. Y'know what man... I loving hate you.
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Winson_Paine posted:guys i glued skulls to my ford focus and painted it some godawful color can i play well i mean, yeah, but you better not touch any of my stuff
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Winson_Paine posted:guys i glued skulls to my ford focus and painted it some godawful color can i play please dont doxx my car.
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BULBASAUR posted:I only buy American because the TV says they're built like rocks Whoa hold on let's not go saying we're buying American cars now.
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I'm using my Japanese import as a proxy for an Audi
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Cataphract posted:Y'know what man... I loving hate you. I didn't notice.
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Winson_Paine posted:guys i glued skulls to my ford focus and painted it some godawful color can i play Unbound is Unbound, it doesn't specifically disallow models of cars. I don't know where you'd find space to deploy it though, you'd be the loser in that picture of the smuggo with the line of Kroot across the backfield winning without firing a shot.
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Cataphract posted:Y'know what man... I loving hate you.
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I like some of those deviant art sketches better than the 3DS Max + Adobe Aftereffects garbage they have on half their Horus heresy books.
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