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Woo has no logical reason to win over anyone else besides Kass , and it's why a woo/Kass final two would be the worst ending to a great season
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A Woo/Kass F2 would be great. Kass wins, then comes back in a year on All-Stars in S30, even smugger than before. That's good TV. e: Just imagine Kass' first confessional on season 30. It would go something like "I played a pretty dominant game in my last season, so yeah, people will see me as a threat." Pinterest Mom fucked around with this message at 21:53 on May 15, 2014 |
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May 15, 2014 21:48
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E PLURIBUS ANUS posted:Woo has no logical reason to win over anyone else besides Kass , and it's why a woo/Kass final two would be the worst ending to a great season i would still love this. Kass answers all her questions with angry insults and weirdly-justified reasons why her play was smart, Woo just smiles and stares vacantly, wondering what's going on
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May 15, 2014 21:50
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blue squares posted:Since it seems we've given up on spoilering it (which is okay since it's so crucial to our final week of discussion) I'll share my thoughts: the one goddamn season where a final three would probably be better, and they go to F2. quote:EW: Traditionally, the final 5 is the last time one can use a hidden immunity idol, although you made no such announcement to that effect. Does that mean Tony is indeed bluffing by making people think he can use his special idol at the final 4? Predictions: Final 4 Spencer wins immunity Tony successfully bluffs immunity Woo voted out Final 3 Spencer wins immunity Tony voted out Final 2 Spencer wins jury vote 9-0
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May 15, 2014 21:54
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paperchaseguy posted:No. No. NO. "The uploader has not made this video available in your country." Oh thank God.
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May 15, 2014 21:55
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Pinterest Mom posted:Hey so I don't mind this. Rachel Will be adv early boot. I don't mind Brendan at all, and Elissa is actually fairly cool and savvy. I wouldn't be displeased to see either of them, even at the cost of I THOUGHT SURVIVOR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN AND GOOD 
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May 15, 2014 21:55
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Bigass Moth posted:Assuming we do end up with a final 2, can anyone make an argument for Woo to win except for being not-Kass? What has he done in the game aside from try (and fail) to steal Spencer's idol? He hasn't been particularly challenge-dominant or socially adept, at least from what we've been shown. He played an honest game and was faithful to his alliance until the end. Thats pretty much the argument you make to win a bitter jury over. Pinterest Mom posted:This isn't even true! There have been 14 seasons with a final 2. The game has changed a lot since season18 (tocatins) and if you look at your list, you see that 4 of the 8 loses were in the first 4 seasons, where people still had to get a feeling for the game. I'd say that you can disregard season 8 because ~love~ trumps money and season12, where Aras had a deal with Danielle. Of course there will be situations where the winner of the challenge has 0 chance to win at the end because he/she would get the fewest votes regardless of who he/she sits next to. On the other Boston Rob could have lost Redemption Island to either Agent Phillip or Natalie, if the last challenge was something stupid.
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May 15, 2014 21:58
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James315 posted:Final 4 I don't think this works, game it out: Spencer is safe, he doesn't care about Tony's idol. He votes Tony. Woo obviously isn't voting for himself, and is scared of Tony's idol. He votes Kass. Tony wants Woo gone. He votes Woo. Kass can now vote for either Woo or Tony. She thinks: -If she votes for Tony and the idol is still good, it goes to a revote, where Spencer has to choose between eliminating Woo and Kass. Spencer obviously chooses to eliminate Woo, so Kass is still okay. -If she votes for Tony and the idol is no longer good, then Tony is gone. So she votes Tony.
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May 15, 2014 21:59
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Pinterest Mom posted:It seems like a lock that we're getting an all-newbie BvW season. And rumour has Queen Rachel Reilly making her Survivor debut, though it's not clear if she'd be with Brendon or Elissa. Not the first time this rumour has come up but...  Move over Parvati, the real queen of reality game shows is coming to be the first two show winner. *cue the laugh*
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May 15, 2014 22:04
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Propaganda Machine posted:I don't mind this. Rachel Will be adv early boot. I don't mind Brendan at all, and Elissa is actually fairly cool and savvy. I wouldn't be displeased to see either of them, even at the cost of I THOUGHT SURVIVOR WAS SUPPOSED TO BE FUN AND GOOD On one hand I agree with you on the other I don't want her on my TV anymore  BGrifter posted:Not the first time this rumour has come up but... She might be a two show winner on sunday, and both Boston Rob and Amber already pulled off the two-fer 
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May 15, 2014 22:43
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IcePhoenix posted:She might be a two show winner on sunday, and both Boston Rob and Amber already pulled off the two-fer I don't count TAR personally, but point taken. Never could get into that show.
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May 15, 2014 22:48
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Bigass Moth posted:Assuming we do end up with a final 2, can anyone make an argument for Woo to win except for being not-Kass?
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May 15, 2014 22:49
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Adus posted:I can't be the only one who noticed we didn't have a loved one visit episode. I think I remember people walking to pondarosa this season sad that they didn't stay in it long enough for their mom to come out. Did they have it planned and then changed it?
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May 15, 2014 23:11
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Poque posted:i would still love this. Kass answers all her questions with angry insults and weirdly-justified reasons why her play was smart, Woo just smiles and stares vacantly, wondering what's going on "Woo, do you have any reasons why I should vote for you to win?" "I do. .... "
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May 15, 2014 23:25
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What are YOUR reasons for voting for me
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May 15, 2014 23:28
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BGrifter posted:I don't count TAR personally, but point taken. Never could get into that show.
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May 15, 2014 23:31
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E PLURIBUS ANUS posted:Good, I hate loved one visit episodes (just like I hate the walk of fallen heroes) I hate it too, but the lack of it is more of a kind of worrying implication for the state of the show. If they decided to just get rid of it because people hate it then that would be fine, but I have a feeling a large portion of the audience still thinks those episodes are sweet.
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May 15, 2014 23:50
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Adus posted:I hate it too, but the lack of it is more of a kind of worrying implication for the state of the show. Jeff loves it, which is really the important point.
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May 16, 2014 00:07
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Pinterest Mom posted:A Woo/Kass F2 would be great. Kass wins, then comes back in a year on All-Stars in S30, even smugger than before. That's good TV. hahahaha oh my god that is exactly what Kass would say. Hell, she might even say that
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May 16, 2014 00:09
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God I hope season 29 is an all-stars season just so I can hear Kass tell like Malcolm and Sophie and Cochran how she's a "real threat" and they should "watch out for her" on her first day on the beach
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May 16, 2014 00:12
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Adus posted:I hate it too, but the lack of it is more of a kind of worrying implication for the state of the show. Don't, it still brings super solid ratings and even if it didn't, hour for hour it's one of the cheapest shows cbs makes
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May 16, 2014 00:13
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I still wish they had announced this was an F2 at the beginning, but I'm glad to see it's still an option they're willing to revisit. It pretty drastically fucks up Spencer's chances, but I'm not too broken up about that. I am sad the odds of seeing Tony in front of the jury have gone down though. Even the "undeserving" Kass/Woo F2 would be amazing television, particularly because I think she would be even more deluded that she could win. I think at least one of Kass or Tony are definitely going to be in the final two, which is all that matters to me at this point. Also, these are good posts: Faxman posted:"Woo, do you have any reasons why I should vote for you to win?" E PLURIBUS ANUS posted:What are YOUR reasons for voting for me
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May 16, 2014 00:39
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xbilkis posted:I still wish they had announced this was an F2 at the beginning, but I'm glad to see it's still an option they're willing to revisit. It pretty drastically fucks up Spencer's chances, but I'm not too broken up about that. I am sad the odds of seeing Tony in front of the jury have gone down though. I'm hoping Spencer doesn't make it to the final two just because I think he'd be the most boring in front of the jury. I also think he'd be one of the people to tear into Kass the worst if he was on the jury, which I'd really like to see.
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May 16, 2014 00:46
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savinhill posted:I'm hoping Spencer doesn't make it to the final two just because I think he'd be the most boring in front of the jury. I also think he'd be one of the people to tear into Kass the worst if he was on the jury, which I'd really like to see. if he makes it to the final 2 with her, he is going to leave her with a pile of blood at her feet
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May 16, 2014 00:57
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Ughh, another blood vs. water season? That's very disappointing, even if it isn't returnees vs. newbies this time, which utterly destroyed any semblance of balance in the last blood vs. water season. I really hope they don't gently caress it up this time by splitting up the family pairs at first. Not only does this remove most family dynamics anyway, it leads to bullshit like "let's vote out this person because they have a partner left in the game", which is just incredibly boring strategically and can lead to interesting people getting eliminated for literally no fault of their own multiple times per game. This season has been awesome and didn't really have much of a gimmick (I don't really think the initial tribe designations really count as a gimmick given that they were precast and then they realised they could just arrange them that way) aside from the super idol which has made the ending of the season shittier than it should have been. Jeff Probst knows gently caress all about what makes Survivor interesting. Hint: it's not stupid gimmicks.
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May 16, 2014 01:12
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Question: Let's say Jeff is somehow transported to a world where he isn't the host of Survivor (and so no one knows he's a host of Survivor; he starts off fresh with no preconceptions), and is on a season of Survivor. How well does he do?
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May 16, 2014 01:19
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I generally don't read into the editing, but based on the editing so far I just don't see us ending up with a Kass/Woo F2.
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Shakugan posted:Question: Let's say Jeff is somehow transported to a world where he isn't the host of Survivor (and so no one knows he's a host of Survivor; he starts off fresh with no preconceptions), and is on a season of Survivor. How well does he do? Early boot, lucky to make the merge. He's a good television producer, but he's continually shown a total lack of understanding what it takes to win Survivor.
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Mercaptopropyl posted:I generally don't read into the editing, but based on the editing so far I just don't see us ending up with a Kass/Woo F2. My guess is that it will be Kass and Tony, and I will be very sad. If Spencer somehow magically makes it, it suddenly arguably becomes the best season ever.
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May 16, 2014 01:25
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What was the first season they did final 3? Fiji?
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May 16, 2014 01:32
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heybrother posted:What was the first season they did final 3? Fiji? Cook Islands I believe.
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May 16, 2014 01:36
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Propaganda Machine posted:My guess is that it will be Kass and Tony, and I will be very sad. Assuming the season doesn't fall apart in the end and we get one of the two credible winners left it's a contender for a top five spot. Will have to see how it holds up to a few rewatches to be sure. I'm steeling myself for a Kass/Woo final two though. What a disastrous end to an excellent season that'd be.
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May 16, 2014 01:37
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rafington posted:Cook Islands I believe. Ahh, I forgot Sundra existed for a hot minute. Edit: was that done as a surprise?
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May 16, 2014 01:44
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heybrother posted:Ahh, I forgot Sundra existed for a hot minute. I'd have to rewatch to be sure, but I remember it seeming like they knew. Other seasons, Micronesia in particular, they clearly did not know how many people would be at the final tribal. It's also notable that the idol was playable at 4 in Cook Islands, and that it seemed to be transferable, unlike the current version.
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May 16, 2014 02:11
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Also I think a major change that survivor should make to the idol is is make it playable up to the final tribal council of the season My figuring is if you were clever enough to maintain control of an idol and never need to use it, either because someone flushes it or due to being targeted you deserve to get into FTC Also it would make an interesting incentive to hold into idols that could seriously bite some people in the rear end, which is always fun to watch
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May 16, 2014 02:21
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I wonder what it's like to be a Survivor camera man. It's got to have it's ups and downs. "Film Jefra sunbathing all day? Great!" "Ugh, I've got to follow Tony into the jungle so he can take a poo poo  "
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May 16, 2014 02:22
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E PLURIBUS ANUS posted:Also I think a major change that survivor should make to the idol is is make it playable up to the final tribal council of the season I would support this. Of course, this also means the number of idols has to be vastly reduced and a new one shouldn't pop into the game each time one is played.
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Bigass Moth posted:I wonder what it's like to be a Survivor camera man. It's got to have it's ups and downs. "Film Jefra sunbathing all day? Great!" "Ugh, I've got to follow Tony into the jungle so he can take a poo poo I can't even imagine the Jefra bit being all that great since the contestants are malnourished, unwashed, unshaven; covered in cuts, scrapes and bug-bites. Not to mention not having brushed and other neglected areas of hygiene.
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May 16, 2014 02:31
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heybrother posted:Ahh, I forgot Sundra existed for a hot minute. I'm pretty sure they were surprised by it. I have a vague memory of the final four reading tree mail and it telling them they'd proceed to their final immunity challenge and Yul saying something like "wait, it says final immunity challenge - so there's going to be three of us at final tribal"
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My prediction: In the attempt to make the biggest move in Survivor history, Kass votes herself out #ChaosKass. During the reunion in the attempt to make it all about herself by she literally self-immolates.
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