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I know people here have talked about being assessed by ATOS so would anyone be able to go over the process? My brother has autism and has been getting DLA and is now called up for an assessment by ATOS, after all the horror stories I'm pretty worried. 
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May 16, 2014 12:36
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SybilVimes posted:I'm not sure there's any potential way to get such a tattoo and it not say 'I'm a giant raging nazi' to anyone that sees it though - so probably best to get it dive bombing your anus. Most tattoo artists nowadays will flat out refuse anything like that. If you go for something a bit more obscure than a massive Nazi eagle you might get lucky if they don't realise. Those artists who are willing acquire a reputation for it. And will lose a lot of regular customers who don't want to associate with that sort of crowd.
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May 16, 2014 12:37
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Geokinesis posted:I know people here have talked about being assessed by ATOS so would anyone be able to go over the process?
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May 16, 2014 12:50
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Geokinesis posted:I know people here have talked about being assessed by ATOS so would anyone be able to go over the process? First off, be aware that they will happily let you stew until the week of the interview then cancel it with no reason, so you may never have to attend... There's not much to it, other than the terror. You turn up at the day/time so appointed, wait 2-3 hours*, go into a room where some fraud claims that they have a 'medical background' (they don't) and then asks you questions from the list of indicators, they may ask you to demonstrate things like how high you can reach, etc - if you answer yes to the incontinence questions they WILL ask to see your nappy, even though that's totally inappropriate. They will put down the least-effected way of interpreting your answer. They will ask how you got there, and use that to potentially mark against your claims of mobility issues, along with a smug 'well, you managed to get here today'. If you, by any unfortunate event, collapse/faint/have-a-heart-attack during the interview, you will be sent home by taxi, and they will mark you as 'did not attend'. * Note that they always seem to have some office problem that results in them running massively behind, and they WILL offer to reschedule you to another date, if you accept that offer they WILL mark you as not attending and you will likely
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May 16, 2014 12:51
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no that wasn't thirteen years ago gently caress gently caress gently caress i'm old 
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May 16, 2014 12:54
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Geokinesis posted:I know people here have talked about being assessed by ATOS so would anyone be able to go over the process? Main thing to remember for it is that there'll be a lot of questions that ask for how many hours a day/days a week etc. your brother needs assistance, weather it's mobility or personal care, and how much of it he needs. DO NOT answer as though he's having a 'good day' or a 'good week' or whatever - always tell them what it's like when he's having a 'bad' day or week. If at all possible, don't even mention the times when he can deal with things better than normal. Basically, don't be optimistic about your brothers condition during the interview, always keep the worst case scenario where he needs the most support in mind and base all your answers off that. a glitch fucked around with this message at 13:03 on May 16, 2014 |
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May 16, 2014 13:01
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Thanks! You guys are stars.
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May 16, 2014 13:04
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Geokinesis posted:Thanks! You guys are stars. Don't give them an inch, and be suspect of any questions. Depending on your brother's condition it will inevitably be upsetting and frustrating for him, so its good he has you.
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May 16, 2014 13:08
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Trickjaw posted:Don't give them an inch, and be suspect of any questions. Depending on your brother's condition it will inevitably be upsetting and frustrating for him, so its good he has you. It could well be the same for whoever accompanies him into the interview, so be prepare for that person (weather it's you or someone else) to feel pretty crap after the interview as well. One more thing - when talking about the support your brother needs, always try and mention the financial cost of that support too. For example (not sure weather this applies for your brother or not), if he can't take public transport alone then bring up the extra costs that come with getting him around i.e. petrol, extra bus fares for people who accompany him, etc. Hope things turn out OK!
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May 16, 2014 13:17
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Geokinesis posted:I know people here have talked about being assessed by ATOS so would anyone be able to go over the process? Find and speak to your local autistic trust, have them prep you for the interview. It's not quite full-blown Freeman bullshit but there are ways to word things to be lawyer-proof, and the autistic trusts right now spend a lot of their time getting people used to this. In my case the interview was a breeze because I went full-blown psychotic a few days before and the idea of me in the workplace must have screamed liability, but the subsequent re-assessments have been no problem with just the odd bit of briefing so as to be clear on what ATOS are looking to hear about what I'm entitled to. Also didn't ATOS get fired or did I have a particularily pleasant dream? HortonNash posted:A good bet is to check out the DfE teacher training site. It covers both entry to Initial Teacher Training or if qualified overseas what steps to take to get certified here. Thanks time-travel bud! She's looking for schools today. Eggn0g posted:So... umm... gently caress it, I just don't know. Why is the girl an attractive non-nazi? Haha don't answer that, there's cocaine on her bottom.
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May 16, 2014 13:36
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ATOS walked out on the contract, but same staff, same procedures. Same meat, different gravy.
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May 16, 2014 13:45
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Thanks again, really appreciate the advice! Also I swear there was some article about ATOS losing their contract too?
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May 16, 2014 13:46
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Geokinesis posted:Thanks again, really appreciate the advice! See above!
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May 16, 2014 13:53
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You HAVE to watch this LBC mauling of Farage from today, it's frigging glorious. http://www.lbc.co.uk/watch-nigel-farage-v-james-obrien-live-from-1130-90532
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May 16, 2014 14:00
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Loonytoad Quack posted:You HAVE to watch this LBC mauling of Farage from today, it's frigging glorious. Holy poo poo. I think I've heard this guy before, Paxman replacement found.
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May 16, 2014 14:05
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Loonytoad Quack posted:You HAVE to watch this LBC mauling of Farage from today, it's frigging glorious.
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May 16, 2014 14:07
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In shocking news, the Tories and Lib Dems just voted not to ban letting agents from charging fees to tenants.
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May 16, 2014 14:10
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Geokinesis posted:I know people here have talked about being assessed by ATOS so would anyone be able to go over the process? When my friend went, she went with a pile of medical notes, and her mum, who has been doing this kind of thing with her for 20 years, they went "prepared". They had faced the atos beast before. Atos assessor simply made up the assessment, outright ignoring what was said, evidence given e.t.c. so there was no obstacle to a 0 point assessment (from 20+ before) and her ensuring that her "hounding the disabled into an early grave" stat was solid that week. CAB reckon you can record the interviews if you ask first, and it's what I would recommend, on top of all the other excellent advice given. Provided your brother have the medical evidence/history there, then he will probably get what he applies for, but he will probably have to fight tooth and nail. gently caress atos and gently caress whoever puts their name to this abhorrent system designed to make the disabled/sick suffer, makes me wish I was a theist so I had some hope of a hell for them to end up in.
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May 16, 2014 14:13
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DesperateDan posted:When my friend went, she went with a pile of medical notes, and her mum, who has been doing this kind of thing with her for 20 years, they went "prepared". They had faced the atos beast before. I'd say that requires legal action but hah, no legal aid.
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May 16, 2014 14:18
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twoot posted:The SNP are by no means bright-red socialists, but their track record in power and their manifesto is to the left of Labour and that doesn't look likely to change when Labour criticises benefit universalism as "something for nothing". I support the amendment in principle (despite it probably being against EU law) but as far as I can tell Labour proposed that amendment with no plans for how to fund the extra expenditure, but it would probably necessitate cuts elsewhere. I dunno, they've been happy to cut other areas to fund things they're prioritising: cutting college funding to pay for universities comes to mind. I agree that they are further to the left of Labour but then again I'm a paid-up Communist Party of Britain member so my idea of what counts as left-wing is probably a bit skewed.  If they're standing a candidate in my area I'll vote for No2EU partly because of restrictions on workers' rights like that one, the idea is to get us out of the economic union and austerity requirements and stay in the ECHR and Council of Europe. Otherwise Green - I get the impression they're doing pretty well in Edinburgh at the moment but we'll have to see how the actual vote turns out.Eggn0g posted:So... umm... gently caress it, I just don't know. So UKIP are for closing the borders, except to drug mules and smugglers, and don't believe in international aid or supporting legitimate industries in other countries, but are cool with supporting foreign drug gangs? 
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May 16, 2014 14:20
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http://www.lbc.co.uk/watch-nigel-farage-v-james-obrien-live-from-1130-90532 Well this is entertaining. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politics/ukip/10836159/Nigel-Farage-in-car-crash-interview-as-he-faces-Ukip-racism-claims.html quote:Nigel Farage was accused of being a divisive racist in a car-crash interview this morning that his most senior aide attempted to halt. http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/news/d..._medium=twitter quote:Nigel Farage has just appeared on the James O’Brien show, and it’s one of the most amazing radio interviews I’ve ever heard.
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May 16, 2014 14:23
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Eggn0g posted:So... umm... gently caress it, I just don't know. Spangly A posted:Why is the girl an attractive non-nazi? Stottie Kyek posted:So UKIP are for closing the borders, except to drug mules and smugglers, and don't believe in international aid or supporting legitimate industries in other countries, but are cool with supporting foreign drug gangs? Trickjaw posted:
Kurtofan posted:All I can think of is, poor girl. It's a staged photo for an art book, apparently the councillor models part time. More on it here if you're interested:  http://www.thedualism.com/ Those tatts are apparently real though, and it's a pretty embarassing photo to have out there regardless of context. big scary monsters fucked around with this message at 14:27 on May 16, 2014 |
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May 16, 2014 14:24
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I cannot imagine what would induce anyone to be a part of that particular poo poo sandwich. At least their appearance is consistently abhorent with their views.
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Loonytoad Quack posted:You HAVE to watch this LBC mauling of Farage from today, it's frigging glorious. The best bit is when he says there are schools where the majority of children don't speak english and gets called on it. Or maybe the really creepy "you know which ones" Or the bit at the end where the ex-express editor intervenes and O'Brien asks if he is a friend in the media or a member of the political class.
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May 16, 2014 14:31
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big scary monsters posted:It's a staged photo for an art book, apparently the councillor models part time. More on it here if you're interested: I did wonder about the size of that line, that's quite a large dose of anything. Guess that explains it.
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May 16, 2014 14:32
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Phoon posted:The best bit is when he says there are schools where the majority of children don't speak english and gets called on it. Its all just a great big pile of joy, born of hatred. It won't be a terminal blow, though, and I think we all know that. It will be held up as more 'political/media class' attacks. I'm just holding out for one day when that smarm from the Express is not there to pull him away and he cracks. This actually all overshadows some weasel from the Christian Peoples Alliance on the Daily politics agreeing that Gay marriage caiused the floods, just not the way it was said. Interesting times.
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May 16, 2014 14:34
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KayTee posted:
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May 16, 2014 14:34
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KayTee posted:http://www.lbc.co.uk/watch-nigel-farage-v-james-obrien-live-from-1130-90532 James O'Brien posted:This is Patrick O'Flynn UKIP's Director of Communications and former political commentator on the Daily Express. Is this a friend in the media or a member of the political class? 
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May 16, 2014 14:37
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ultrabindu posted:
Yeah, I thought that was a little too optimistic. Still, a guy can dream.
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May 16, 2014 14:39
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KayTee posted:What happened in between has effectively finished Nigel Farage’s political career.
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May 16, 2014 14:40
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It assumes that the people who vote for UKIP aren't nodding their heads in agreement to the assertion that Romanians are criminals and it's a breach of the peace when people speak foreign in public. I don't think that assumption is correct. All the finance and hypocrisy stuff won't come out until the Sun starts going after them in the run up to the general election.
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May 16, 2014 15:07
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It's damaging, but it won't sink fartrage. Too many brits would probably nod along to the whole idea of judging where people come from as fine, just so long as they don't openly pick on "the blacks". That's racism in Britain today, attack any facet of race bar colour of skin, and it just doesn't register as racism to so many It's a good, solid kick to the danglies though, and it sure cheered me up  Spangly A posted:I'd say that requires legal action but hah, no legal aid. Meh, the assessor would simply say "nope, that's what went on in the interview, honest guv.", there's no evidence to the contrary. It's gotten me so pissed off I might actually leave the DDancave and protest, the last few months has been such a blow to her
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May 16, 2014 15:12
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That was pretty brutal. However I was reminded at times of the question time with Nick Griffin where the main issue is sometimes they don't let the loving interviewee actually answer a question. Continually interrupting them is lazy and makes it easier to defend the interviewee instead of letting them give an answer and then just blasting it to pieces (as was done a lot in that interview just not as much as I had hoped) Let them hang themselves with their own rope.
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May 16, 2014 15:28
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Satire is dead Samsung to rebrand Heathrow airport's Terminal 5 'Terminal Samsung Galaxy S5' It sounds like a branded disease.
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May 16, 2014 15:54
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twoot posted:Satire is dead Nobody in the world is ever going to call it this, what the gently caress is this. Hopefully this will be as sucessful as the St. James' Park renaming.
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May 16, 2014 15:58
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Bozza posted:Nobody in the world is ever going to call it this, what the gently caress is this. Oh you know some poor bastard customer service grunt is going to penalised for not calling it that every time.
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May 16, 2014 16:02
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May 16, 2014 16:03
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Bozza posted:Nobody in the world is ever going to call it this, what the gently caress is this. The marketing folks don't give a gently caress if people say it or not, though. It'll be on every surface in the place, on every bit of documentation, every staff member will have to repeat it, and it'll work by sheer saturation. Adverts even work slightly better on people who think they're wise to them
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May 16, 2014 16:10
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Buy one of the micro-sized cameras designed for filming on bikes etc and film it covertly. If they shaft you like this, show them the video. If they say you aren't allowed to film it, take their original statement and the video to the press. gently caress these people.
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EDIT: I am use computer bad today.
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