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I'm faintly curious how these fringe parties manage to make the funds to keep going. Are the subsidies that generous? I recall there being another nail in the NPD's coffin, due to them faking membership numbers to get larger subsidies (hey, the money may have gown to a brown person otherwise). Lucy Heartfilia posted:BüSo are insane. Randler posted:NPD gnomes
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Lunar Suite posted:Other than being wrong about everything, is there anything noteworthy? They're LaRouchites, if that means anything to you. (Not as in "sort of like LaRouchites". As in "run by Helga Zepp-LaRouche".) (Also, to go with the above: the poor beleaguered AfD appears to employ neonazi thugs to watch their election posters, if you haven't heard. Good times.)
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Hamiltonian Bicycle posted:(Also, to go with the above: the poor beleaguered AfD appears to employ neonazi thugs to watch their election posters, if you haven't heard. Good times.) Got a source on this?
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Drone posted:Got a source on this? Not one more objective than antifa groups, admittedly. See here, say. This is, of course, one local report, from a source with a definite ideological slant, so grain of salt, and if my previous post came across as asserting that they're definitely 100% doing this everywhere in the country that wasn't my intention.
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Lucy Heartfilia posted:BüSo are insane. Yes. Yes, they are. Years ago, when I was still in school, BüSo used to have little campaign stands nearby. Me and my friends had a game where we tried to find out who could prompt the BüSo guys to say something anti-semitic the fastest. It never took long. Randler posted:When it comes to baffling promitions, nothing compares to this classic NPD clip. Holy poo poo 
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BüSo are ALWAYS camped out at Frankfurt Hauptbahnhof, right next to the ATM in the very middle of the station. It makes it really awkward when you have to withdraw cash and they hover just out of reach, patiently waiting to accost you once you leave the Geldautomat's protective sphere.
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It's not on YouTube, but enjoy the classic: http://www.myvideo.de/watch/5312590/Kalkofes_Mattscheibe_Bueso To be fair, the global house market did explode like three years later. Also, she has the same (but spellchecked) diagram in later spots.
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Randler posted:When it comes to baffling promitions, nothing compares to this classic NPD clip.
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Yes, of course. It's the embodiment of:quote:Thus, by a continuous shifting of rhetorical focus, the enemies are at the same time too strong and too weak.
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These two election posters from "Die Linke" sum up the political circus quite nicely: ("Wealth for all" - "Tax wealth")
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As an American living here, it's so cute that you all think your politics are a circus  I've never seen a Die Linke poster with Gysi's face on it, though. To be honest I don't think I've ever seen a Die Linke poster that wasn't just size 500 Impact font saying something like "KEINE WAFFENEXPORTE" or whatever, with a little Linke logo in the corner.
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mcbexx posted:These two election posters from "Die Linke" sum up the political circus quite nicely: Good to see that there are still some in Die Linke who haven't forgotten about dialectics.
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mcbexx posted:These two election posters from "Die Linke" sum up the political circus quite nicely: Don't see anything wrong with everybody wealthy and also everybody paying taxes. 
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Vanadium posted:Don't see anything wrong with everybody wealthy and also everybody paying taxes.
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CSM posted:But that's socialism! Still not seeing the problem here.
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:Still not seeing the problem here. 
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Manic_Misanthrope posted:Still not seeing the problem here. But freedom! You can't be free when you have to pay for things! Nektu posted:Careful, the NSA can see you Pssht. There is no NSA. Chancellor Merkel doesn't want to know about it and so do we.
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Oh Seehofer, you are the ...est of them all http://www.spiegel.de/politik/deutschland/europawahl-csu-chef-seehofer-wird-zum-europafreund-a-970320.html
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mcbexx posted:These two election posters from "Die Linke" sum up the political circus quite nicely: Those are quite amusing as well:   
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ephex posted:Those are quite amusing as well: Jesus Christ 
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This is the funniest thing I've seen in ages.
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The CDU poster killed me IRL and the Partei poster revived me, but what is even the deal with the REP poster? Like, do they want foreigners to blow on the turbines?
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Smirr posted:what is even the deal with the REP poster? Like, do they want foreigners to blow on the turbines?
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ephex posted:Those are quite amusing as well: Truly, the party of the young people. Look how "hip" and "with it" they are. 
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Perestroika posted:Truly, the party of the young people. Look how "hip" and "with it" they are. When it comes to the offspring organizations of parties, young means up to 35, for what it's worth. Regardless, I think at least the two girls in front look acceptably young and
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Well, they are effectively ensnaring voters, so young in this case means around 20 at any rate, and in that regard the group photo looks as well as you could expect from a political youth organization. Honestly party youth organizations for kids younger than 18 would just look like creepy indoctrination camps. steinrokkan fucked around with this message at 15:22 on May 20, 2014 |
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steinrokkan posted:Honestly party youth organizations for kids younger than 18 would just look like creepy indoctrination camps. The "Junge Union" allows membership from ages 14 to 35. On the other, much less well-lit and always slightly smelly and sketchy, side of the political spectrum, the SPD also takes anyone stupid enough from ages 14 and up.
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Randler posted:The "Junge Union" allows membership from ages 14 to 35. On the other, much less well-lit and always slightly smelly and sketchy, side of the political spectrum, the SPD also takes anyone stupid enough from ages 14 and up. That actually seems to be the rule for all of the party-affiliated youth organisations, including the Grüne Jugend, JuLis or 'solid. Coming to think of it, I'd love to see some kind of breakdown for each of them as to the motivations of everyone who joined below the age of, say, 20. It'd be pretty interesting to see how many of them joined up on their own initiative because they identify with the respective values (or maybe just as a "no gently caress you dad" deal) versus how many were nudged that way through their parents/relatives/friends.
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Joining the CDU proper requires an age of at least 16, though, while the SPD really takes everybody 14 and up. I didn't check whatever requirement the JuSos have, because they are far more independant from what is considered "their" party than any other youth organiziation. As for motivation, the JuSos are somewhat strong in university politics and - due to basically nobody caring about university politics - are very, very leftist due to their independance from the SPD. So "gently caress you, Dad!" might actually line up with a lot of their positions pretty well. (Political organizations at universities are a whole other can of worms as well. Though it's always fun to notice how every one or two years another AStA gets StA visits due to embezzlement charges. ) As for the Junge Union, everybody I ever met who has joined the Junge Union did so because of the parties, not of the party.
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This discussion led me to check if the Jungdemokraten were still a thing. (They are.)Randler posted:As for the Junge Union, everybody I ever met who has joined the Junge Union did so because of the parties, not of the party.
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ephex posted:Those are quite amusing as well: hahahaha oh my lord Ghost Farts posted:Die Partei has the best posters ahahaha i can't breathe send help
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Perestroika posted:That actually seems to be the rule for all of the party-affiliated youth organisations, including the Grüne Jugend, JuLis or 'solid. Coming to think of it, I'd love to see some kind of breakdown for each of them as to the motivations of everyone who joined below the age of, say, 20. It'd be pretty interesting to see how many of them joined up on their own initiative because they identify with the respective values (or maybe just as a "no gently caress you dad" deal) versus how many were nudged that way through their parents/relatives/friends. So yeah. It surely is no perfect match, but once I realized that I probably would continue to support them in elections and in general, I saw no reason not to simply join. An easy way to show more than just lip support. I admit that I'm not really doing much beside that, I am not going on conferences or standing on the streets annoying people with flyers. I am mostly content to be another member for the statistic and paying my (quite small for students) fee. Maybe I will do more once I am finished with studying Chemistry, which is not a perfect but a pretty good excuse for being otherwise too tied up to contribute much. Oh, and if I'm bored, I'm also willing to talk about it on internet forums, I guess. Any questions?
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Randler posted:As for the Junge Union, everybody I ever met who has joined the Junge Union did so because of the parties, not of the party. The one person I know who joined the JU did so because he hoped to boost his career that way (this was in Bavaria). No idea if it worked, I haven't seen him in years.
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Well it certainly boosted his alcohol level.
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System Metternich posted:The one person I know who joined the JU did so because he hoped to boost his career that way (this was in Bavaria). No idea if it worked, I haven't seen him in years. e: vvv  vvve2: Haha, my very first quote != edit! 
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For networking purposes, joining the JU is probably not that useful unless you're actually active within either the organization itself or at the muncipal level. It'd probably be more useful to join a Burschenschaft or Studentenverbindung if you want to boost your career. (Or a Schützenverein.) Another common anecdote regarding the JU is that they will apparently ask you politely to pay your membership fees even after years of non-payment, but they won't ever kick you out because you being in their books already gives them money from their mother party as well as the government. The latter being filed under "Politische Bildung".  (There also was that one time where the local JU thought it was a good idea to do a Fackelzug to what was the inspiration for Castle Wolfenstein.)
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Randler posted:For networking purposes, joining the JU is probably not that useful unless you're actually active within either the organization itself or at the muncipal level. It'd probably be more useful to join a Burschenschaft or Studentenverbindung if you want to boost your career. (Or a Schützenverein.) Is joining a Burschenschaft or Verbindung REALLY going to help you that much? By this point, their reputation is so tainted that I would seriously question employing someone who was a member if I had the choice. Then again, I'm probably moving in the wrong circles and work in the wrong field in the first place. I don't think I knewa single member of a Burschenschaft when I went to university.
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DominoDancing posted:Is joining a Burschenschaft or Verbindung REALLY going to help you that much? By this point, their reputation is so tainted that I would seriously question employing someone who was a member if I had the choice. Then again, I'm probably moving in the wrong circles and work in the wrong field in the first place. I don't think I knewa single member of a Burschenschaft when I went to university. I was honestly surprised when recently (months ago?) Burschenschaften appeared in the news because of some sort of Nazi-scandal. The last time I heard about them was in history books - I thought it was something of the distant past! Man, apparently I'm living in the modern part of the country.
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