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Raskolnikov38 posted:If you do do this, shoot Xylo an email or PM or whatever first because I recall he had some specific rules for the last time jrodefeld did something like this. Haha, I can't believe that loving worked. 
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Who What Now posted:So I got 20 DebateDiscoFunBux that absolem really is just a jrodefeld rereg. Nej, he keeps up with the thread. He (I'm uh, making the bold assumption that an ancap fedora is male) also doesn't appear to be fully down the mises sinkhole yet, because he still feels twinges of altruism and sympathy for others which he is trying to recontextualize through ~ancaprithmetic~ e: VVV do it, cranks are a precious resource that should feel welcomed.
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I just got my tax refund, so should I get our new objectivist a custom avatar?
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Pohl posted:Haha, I can't believe that loving worked. Damnit! That motherfucker! I just finished putting up a carefully crafted Libertarian thread 
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Caros posted:Damnit! That motherfucker! I just finished putting up a carefully crafted Libertarian thread I wouldn't worry. If yours is a better thread, the market dictates it will win out.
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May 23, 2014 00:13
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Joementum posted:I wouldn't worry. If yours is a better thread, the market dictates it will win out. But what if The State (Xylo) intervenes, creating distortions contrary to logic and natural law 
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SedanChair posted:But what if The State (Xylo) intervenes, creating distortions contrary to logic and natural law This is only necessary in the case of violence or breach of contract (a.k.a. violence against money).
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Joementum posted:I wouldn't worry. If yours is a better thread, the market dictates it will win out. I've said it before, I'll say it again you are my favorite source of politics on this forum Joementum. I wish I was half as witty as you.
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Climate change: Super PAC targets Republicans who deny human role in warming.quote:Environmentalist billionaire Tom Steyer is taking aim at Republican politicians who reject climate change. Caros posted:Damnit! That motherfucker! I just finished putting up a carefully crafted Libertarian thread I checked it out, it looks like a good OP. Pohl fucked around with this message at 00:44 on May 23, 2014 |
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Man, I wonder how a libertarian would respond to Coates' work on reparations? https://medium.com/p/7cde116f4eb1 quote:Whatever the repartitions are going to be, and I suggest TRILLIONS of dollars, I am only in favor of them, if and only if, the guaranteed end result is smaller government. Keep on truckin, white America.
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Joementum posted:So the GOP candidates for Governor of Colorado (all men) had a debate about "Women and Colorado’s Future" where they'd be asked questions by women. The moderator asks the women to join the candidates on stage and.... cue the music from The Dating Game! Audio of the entire thing http://newstalk710knus.podbean.com/e/women-and-colorados-future-gubernatorial-debate-may-20-2014/ It rules
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The Senate version of the NDAA, which will be named after committee chairman Carl Levin in honor of his retirement, contains a provision allowing the President to close Gitmo unless veto-proof majorities in Congress object. Obama may be able to do that thing he promised to do on day one, just on day 2,000 or so.
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Berke Negri posted:Man, I wonder how a libertarian would respond to Coates' work on reparations? I like how black people and libertarians are a separate group, they aren't even trying to hide it's a movement for white people only anymore  Joementum posted:The Senate version of the NDAA, which will be named after committee chairman Carl Levin in honor of his retirement, contains a provision allowing the President to close Gitmo unless veto-proof majorities in Congress object. Obama may be able to do that thing he promised to do on day one, just on day 2,000 or so. Better late than never which is looking increasing likely as Obama's term comes to a close.
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SirKibbles posted:I like how black people and libertarians are a separate group, they aren't even trying to hide it's a movement for white people only anymore You see, black people just don't understand. Remember how Will Smith taught us that "Parents just don't understand"? It is sort of like that, only not, because it is racist as gently caress. I can't even not laugh about this poo poo anymore. I probably shouldn't but this crap just makes me laugh anymore it is so absurd. SirKibbles posted:Better late than never which is looking increasing likely as Obama's term comes to a close. Once he decided to say gently caress compromise and told Republican's he wasn't playing their games anymore, he may actually be able to get some stuff done. Wow. What took him so drat long? Pohl fucked around with this message at 00:43 on May 23, 2014 |
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Pohl posted:You see, black people just don't understand. Remember how Will Smith taught us that "Parents just don't understand"? It is sort of like that, only not, because it is racist as gently caress. I can't even not laugh about this poo poo anymore. I probably shouldn't but this crap just makes me laugh anymore it is so absurd. It's not even "black people just don't understand." It's "anyone who is not an already extremely wealthy and privileged white man, or a young and inexperienced white man who just KNOWS he is destined beyond doubt for wealth and privilege, just don't understand," because these are almost literally the only demographic groups that fall for the ridiculous hoax of "libertarianism." Imagine that, a political system that is designed to legitimize the iron-fisted rule of inherited wealth is strongly supported by, and only by, people who have inherited wealth or desperately hope to inherit wealth and is seen as baseless stupidity by everyone else. I bet this is due to government interference somehow! If only people could see! If only they weren't blinded by statism!  Of course, the infallible market has already made its judgment on libertarianism, what with the fact that the declared candidates of the libertarian ethos never get any appreciable votes in any sort of important election and without the life support system of "think tanks" funded by billionaires trying to cloak its robber-baronism in the Gadsden flag it would already be forgotten like a fart on the wind.
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Joementum posted:The Senate version of the NDAA, which will be named after committee chairman Carl Levin in honor of his retirement, contains a provision allowing the President to close Gitmo unless veto-proof majorities in Congress object. Obama may be able to do that thing he promised to do on day one, just on day 2,000 or so.
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Defender of dictators, introducer of impeachment, and sometimes-Libertarian Bob Barr has Reagan desktop wallpaper, likes to pose with it.
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Joementum posted:Defender of dictators, introducer of impeachment, and sometimes-Libertarian Bob Barr has Reagan desktop wallpaper, likes to pose with it. 10:1 odds that the desktop picture is only like 720x480 and all pixelated. I mean, just going by every old conservative guy who's computer I've worked on.
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Joementum posted:Defender of dictators, introducer of impeachment, and sometimes-Libertarian Bob Barr has Reagan desktop wallpaper, likes to pose with it. "I'm telling you Parker, Spider-Man is a menace! Try and get more shots of panicked civilians, that's what sells papers!"
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Who What Now posted:This cannot be stressed enough. There are almost no, if any, situations where all other things being equal a white person won't be better off than a black person in similar situations simply because of the systemic institutions in place that will always favor the white person over the black person. And these injustices go far beyond simple economic inequality so their solutions will be qualitatively different from those simply aimed at economic inequality. If the justice system still treats black people far more harshly than it does white people, there's no distribution of wealth (either equal or even more grossly unequal) that will make it fair because it's not about wealth.
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Steve King challenged Chuck Schumer to a duel today.... a duel of wits, which King apparently thinks he would win. Also, he'd win an actual duel, but that's not what he's talking about because that'd be illegal.quote:"If we're going to have some kind of a challenge of rhetoric bouncing back between the House and Senate, let's do it face to face," King said on the House floor. "Let's do it eye to eye. Let's have that duel, not like Aaron Burr and Alexander Hamilton -- but I would be the one standing on the high ground on that. But let's do it like real men do it today. Not dueling pistols at 50 paces, let's do this with microphones within arm's reach." By an amazing coincidence, today happens to be the 158th anniversary of Senator Charles Sumner getting beaten with a cane by Representative Preston Brooks on the Senate floor.
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Joementum posted:Steve King challenged Chuck Schumer to a duel today.... a duel of wits, which King apparently thinks he would win. Also, he'd win an actual duel, but that's not what he's talking about because that'd be illegal.
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Caros posted:Damnit! That motherfucker! I just finished putting up a carefully crafted Libertarian thread Your OP is waaaaaaaaay better than mine, too. (and I'd use your thread to talk about libertarianism, if I thought any other libertarians would show up to talk) besides, mine was trying to be more general (which I still think is a good idea, maybe after its no longer fun to berate me) Serious question, are these threads always a brutal dogpile on errant minds? Also, what is it that this hivemind even subscribes too? Or is it just a case of different reasons, but most people end up at the same policy desires? Anyway, something actually relevant: http://www.economist.com/news/united-states/21602694-after-lot-name-calling-republicans-are-picking-strong-candidates What does anyone think the republican chances are in the upcoming elections? I think they're pretty decent in general, and I kind of just hope we end up back in deadlock or they somehow gently caress up (because we're going to go in a direction I don't like fiscally regardless, so we might as well go with the people more likely to let people marry and whatnot and less likely to start wars)
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Kafka Esq. posted:Most of the time, I read this thread for shits and giggles, but the believability of this troll really took the cake. The regdate was a dead giveaway, why do people keep taking the bait?
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D&D is not a hivemind. There are plenty of arguments and slapfights around here. There are even Republicans. But even people who violently disagree with each other are still going to dogpile on you if you post obvious nonsense. You may as well complain that we're all identical robots because no one takes your Luminiferous Aether theory seriously.
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Ghost of Reagan Past posted:Can I catch the xenophobia by being near Steve King? Is he a public health hazard? Yes. Serious answer.
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effectual posted:The regdate was a dead giveaway, why do people keep taking the bait? Is it too much to ask for a little more novelty from the trolls, though? Endless go-rounds about coercion and blathering about how the free market will just sort everything out on its own make me miss the more out-there, individual shitposters. Say what you will about someone like let's say Emden, at least he's a breath of fresh air.
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VitalSigns posted:D&D is not a hivemind. There are plenty of arguments and slapfights around here. There are even Republicans. But even people who violently disagree with each other are still going to dogpile on you if you post obvious nonsense. To be completely honest I don't necessarily agree with this. There's a tendency to devolve into memes and that sort of ineffective, effete sarcastic posting should anyone post anything that either disagrees with, or sounds like it disagrees with what seems to be "established". So you end up with goofball events like me and SedanChair posting the same thing, but him thinking we are disagreeing over that very thing. I suppose it's the tendency in this sort of area but I don't know if it's necessarily productive or intellectually stimulating. (That said, as I stated before, I too disagree with what the libertarian fellow was posting before, and I think he, similarly to many "regulars" in this thread, was unwilling to change his mind based off of any presented evidence)
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Chantilly Say posted:Say what you will about someone like let's say Emden, at least he's a breath of fresh air. You know who else was a breath of fresh air....
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nutranurse posted:This is what TNC's been stressing, poor blacks are not poor whites, their problems are different, come from different places, and require different solutions. Ok I understand the argument now. I could certainly see how the root causes of inequality of blacks might be different then whites, and I misunderstood what you meant by rejecting "color blind" social welfare- meaning taking actions meant to alleviate poverty as experienced by the black community which might not be the same actions that would be taken to alleviate poverty in the white community. That sounds totally good and just to me.
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Joementum posted:You know who else was a breath of fresh air.... serious edit: Miltank posted:Ok I understand the argument now. I could certainly see how the root causes of inequality of blacks might be different then whites, and I misunderstood what you meant by rejecting "color blind" social welfare- meaning taking actions meant to alleviate poverty as experienced by the black community which might not be the same actions that would be taken to alleviate poverty in the white community. That sounds totally good and just to me. SubponticatePoster fucked around with this message at 02:19 on May 23, 2014 |
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Joementum posted:You know who else was a breath of fresh air.... ... TobleroneTriangular?
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effectual posted:The regdate was a dead giveaway, why do people keep taking the bait? I've skipped every post by or quoting that loving retard since he posted "there's nothing wrong with benefitting from white supremacy." Because really. Are you guys this gullible? Even if someone does believe such a retarded , disgusting thing, it's about as worthwhile as debating your dog over whether he should eat his own poo poo. All you can do is smack him with a newspaper, yell "NO!" and keep walking.
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Not per se but if someone comes in subscribing to libertarianism there's usually a decent dog pile. Opinions here generally range from liberal to out and out Marxist with the latter being quite prevalent. Consensus right now is that the Republicans will probably take the Senate back and retain control of the house. But it will be a pretty narrow majority, nothing that's filibuster proof or able to override a presidential veto. So even less will probably be done by this upcoming Congress.
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SedanChair posted:But what if The State (Xylo) intervenes, creating distortions contrary to logic and natural law Speak of the devil... So hey, I know this thread isn't exactly a focused one, and that it's also D&D and not an RSS feed, but can you guys try to show some discretion? If Jrodefeld part 2 posts a thread, can't you argue with him in his own thread, and not here? Lemming posted:absolem, what's your plan for returning all of the land and resources of the US to the Native Americans, the unambiguously rightful owners whom we can objectively say everything that exists in America today was stolen from? You seem pretty hung up on property rights, so this seems like it's a pretty big priority for you. Raskolnikov38 posted:If you do do this, shoot Xylo an email or PM or whatever first because I recall he had some specific rules for the last time jrodefeld did something like this. The rule was "don't" but you know, I think I'll allow it for containment purposes.
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In between office sessions of spin the bottle Rep. McAllister has come up with the perfect solution to oil spills: duct tape!quote:Louisiana Rep. Vance McAllister (R) accused Matson of throwing a “fit” just because “some guy took initiative.” Pretty sure the repair was already completed by the hero with the tape. Checkmate, Matson!  
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absolem posted:Your OP is waaaaaaaaay better than mine, too. (and I'd use your thread to talk about libertarianism, if I thought any other libertarians would show up to talk) besides, mine was trying to be more general (which I still think is a good idea, maybe after its no longer fun to berate me) It's always going to be fun to berate libertarians. But if you think that's a good OP, you secretly know that libertarianism is bullshit, so hurry up and abandon it. We all did.
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SedanChair posted:It's always going to be fun to berate libertarians. But if you think that's a good OP, you secretly know that libertarianism is bullshit, so hurry up and abandon it. We all did. I laugh a bit when I read posts like this, it makes me feel as if the people that say it are following the political flavor of the moment. I hope your ideals are more properly secure than that, considering the amount of vitriol and all.
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Joementum posted:In between office sessions of spin the bottle Rep. McAllister has come up with the perfect solution to oil spills: duct tape!
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XyloJW posted:Speak of the devil... Oh god thank you, I think we are all kind of bored.
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