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Forer posted:The economy is always kinda in a mess, but because wushu doesn't really have reasonable money creation or meatsinks. Think about the source of monies in wushu. You forgot about there being an automatic 5% tax on every transaction between players. So even regular trading makes money disappear.
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Looks like GoonTangClan has 3 members. What clan is everyone in now? Sanguine Goon?
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May 23, 2014 02:53
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Christopher posted:Looks like GoonTangClan has 3 members. What clan is everyone in now? Sanguine Goon? That's probably the GoonTangCIan you're looking at.
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May 23, 2014 03:15
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Christopher posted:Looks like GoonTangClan has 3 members. What clan is everyone in now? Sanguine Goon? You want GoonTangClan and not GoonTangCIan, since they look the same in game. Else message Haquertal in game and I'll get you in.
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May 23, 2014 03:18
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You have to check the circle on the upper-right with the swirl thing before searching for some dumb reason. Haq, might want to add that to the op.
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May 23, 2014 03:26
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Third World Reggin posted:When Xena I Love You gets tired of space engineers or dynasty warriors 8 I will pop in to play with him. I went to the smilies page to find one that adequately registered my disappointment and we apparently have this now which makes me feel better about buying the Slut Daggers Set Version 2.  It's a green thing and it blinks at you. Like a DOS text marker? Please think about that.
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May 23, 2014 03:32
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FebrezeNinja posted:You have to check the circle on the upper-right with the swirl thing before searching for some dumb reason. Done! Didn't know that, since I don't recall it working that way when I applied last March but who knows it's been a loving year and why am I still playing a china game 
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May 23, 2014 03:35
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Haquer posted:Done! Didn't know that, since I don't recall it working that way when I applied last March but who knows it's been a loving year and why am I still playing a china game It's because we accept Vagrants now. I don't know why that needs a checkbox.
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Huatah is still the worst at this whole "war" thing. What: GuIlD wAr AgAiNsT hUaTaHHHHH!!!! When:  Where: Southeast Yanjing MO base, and then defending Feihi Why: Resurrection is continuing to try and take the MO base, and to try and get our alliance to split up forces Heiji also declared on our east Scholars base... which actually causes HIS forces to get split up since he should've declared with another ally of his to split it instead :loleyes:
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May 23, 2014 04:14
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 Our good friend CallMeKing would like to play his favorite song, "Crow" 
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Got a new SSD to replace my exploded HD, but logged in to find my account cleaned out. Yet again. Even had the matrix, new passwords all that poo poo from the last time. Hoping support actually does something, because this poo poo is mad gay. Also pulled some old screenshots which I'll post in here.      ^Was from killing viet kidnap bots for a week :>
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May 23, 2014 21:27
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Skion posted:Got a new SSD to replace my exploded HD, but logged in to find my account cleaned out. Yet again. I'm almost convinced that Snail does it themselves on idle accounts, to "encourage" returning players to buy VIP or silver from them. Though I can't completely discount the fact that it's Snail, so they could just be getting straight-up hacked on the regular and it wouldn't be too surprising. Either way, you're not getting your stuff back.
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ponzicar posted:This kidnapping change is a free economics lesson in why deflation is a bad thing. Eh. Deflation is generally a good sign--I'm with Milton Friedman on that. I'd say, rather, this is an object lesson in how central planning is a bad economic policy. A ready example--cell phones are much more affordable than say 20 or 30 years ago. That is deflation--prices going down. Ostensible environmental concerns aside a moment--the wider access to cell phones is a good thing, and enriches society. In the game sense, often in these kind of games certain items get cheaper and easier to get over time. That is deflation--prices going down. The present situation--this is reducing the supply of money, while some costs are fixed, such as for the minimum taels to jail a person, or the minimum 150 taels to get the weekly martial arts practice bonus. That is central planning. The problem isn't deflation per se--if all costs could deflate, it wouldn't be as big of a deal. But they won't. If you hate this economy as a red blooded American, that's natural. It's central planning with a pretend free market.
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madmario posted:A ready example--cell phones are much more affordable than say 20 or 30 years ago. That is deflation--prices going down. Noooo? The price of cell phones has plummeted from 20/30 years ago, but the price of goods in general has only increased. Inflation and deflation aren't about prices per se, but about the value of a currency with respect to the value of goods. Deflation means cash gains value over time, while inflation means cash loses value over time. And deflation has a lot of undesirable aspects, as we're seeing here- why buy something today when you could buy it tomorrow for less money?
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ChickenMedium posted:I'm almost convinced that Snail does it themselves on idle accounts, to "encourage" returning players to buy VIP or silver from them. Though I can't completely discount the fact that it's Snail, so they could just be getting straight-up hacked on the regular and it wouldn't be too surprising. Either way, you're not getting your stuff back. Kylra fucked around with this message at 03:15 on May 24, 2014 |
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Skion posted:Got a new SSD to replace my exploded HD, but logged in to find my account cleaned out. Yet again. You're in the same boat as me and I had the matrix and randomly generated passwords and emails and everything. Snail can restore accounts before a certain time period. If you were hacked recently then they can get stuff for you back but if you were hacked some time ago, good luck and please buy more gold from Snail.
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Been playing this a bit, getting acclimated is difficult business but it seems fun so far. Just applied to the guild as Gither, going to see how Scholar flute playing goes.
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Leffe was fighting Dokey earlier and it mostly consisted of Dokey airdashing around throwing Shen needles for 1-3k or using the new cash shop set and hitting harder than ancient dogbeating. Who's ready for a really lovely Hua? Hole Wolf fucked around with this message at 10:43 on May 24, 2014 |
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May 24, 2014 10:39
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Saradiart posted:Shen needles hit that hard? That's relatively impressive. No, beggar 4th inner hits that hard. Shen needles actually do very little damage, it's more of a support set.
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Shen needles can hit really hard if fully charged and you get a crit on someone under the guiding needle debuff. Shen members can also boost the damage of their skills by playing the "cure people around the world" minigame (Thats what the "Damage increase with medical value desc. line" mean). What i found most interesting for this set is that its mixed internal and external and that needle damage scale off brawn and breath, making it a useful ranged and healing set without having to swap stats. Its perfectly fitted for Shen internal with its roughly equal value for all stats. But with only 2 attacks (with the same animation), a ranged feint and a ranged (10m) debuff its a very, very boring set to look at.
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madmario posted:Eh. Deflation is generally a good sign--I'm with Milton Friedman on that. I'd say, rather, this is an object lesson in how central planning is a bad economic policy. How many bitcoins do you own? Back on topic, I found you can still get evil points by running carts. You have to be grouped with an already evil player, and be near him or her when the cart finishes. So that means you need three characters in your team. One to stand next to, the other to run the carts.
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Yeah Chinagame economy is hosed. I haven't even gotten a stall since the patch because I can't afford it, AND I'm not confident I can sell enough stuff to even cover the 100L it would cost. Basically, Snail's only option at this point if they keep kidnapping as is is to lower the cost of snail taels to something reasonable. Otherwise, there's a lot of content most people will never even see, and that's a shame. I hesitate to even click the button for possession these days, or to pay for extra card flips. Used to be 10L was nothing, but now it's quite a bit. Now that the post faction hype is dying down too, it seems like fewer and fewer people are playing. Many of the old players have moved to greener pastures, and I wouldn't be surprised to see the newer generation of players doing the same thing once they reach the endgame. Basically I think snail hosed themselves pretty hard. Rumors from Jizzwhiz talking to Earthquake said Snail was about one cunthair away from sun setting the game before the Steam launch and the influx of new players dug it away from being a total loss. Maybe I'm just a bittervet, but I can't see the game lasting for another year. Maybe if they do a big server merge that might save it, but even so that will just be delaying the inevitable. Something has to give. Either they need to lower the cost of taels, or turn the kidnapping faucet on again.
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Haroshia posted:Yeah Chinagame economy is hosed. I haven't even gotten a stall since the patch because I can't afford it, AND I'm not confident I can sell enough stuff to even cover the 100L it would cost. Basically, Snail's only option at this point if they keep kidnapping as is is to lower the cost of snail taels to something reasonable. Otherwise, there's a lot of content most people will never even see, and that's a shame. I hesitate to even click the button for possession these days, or to pay for extra card flips. Used to be 10L was nothing, but now it's quite a bit. Now that the post faction hype is dying down too, it seems like fewer and fewer people are playing. Many of the old players have moved to greener pastures, and I wouldn't be surprised to see the newer generation of players doing the same thing once they reach the endgame. They should honestly reduce the cost of taels to $0.01 each (they're currently $0.03 which is 1 ding for $30 which is hahahahtghwer4jktgyhnw3rjygn No.) if even that much. Problem is, then the pay2wins will whine and then you have people like Intoxicate who believe that because they spend more they should have better things and then welp RIP chinesemmorpg.
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Haquer posted:They should honestly reduce the cost of taels to $0.01 each (they're currently $0.03 which is 1 ding for $30 which is hahahahtghwer4jktgyhnw3rjygn No.) if even that much. Can we call it what it really is in Tox's case? Whore2win.
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I dont see why Snail would shutter the US version of the game given the pittance of money they need to keep the servers going and I doubt their customer support and translation team are weighing too deeply into their profits. This is assuming the game is profitable in china where their main development team is at. EA literally ran the WAR servers till their rights to the game expired, and that game couldn't have more than 50 subscribers in it during the last years of its sorry existence. Snail by comparison could probably keep the US version going indefinitely with just Mutou's money.
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Snail would still need to reduce some of the static game prices like stall of 200L, upgrade powder of 150L, etc.
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funakupo posted:Snail would still need to reduce some of the static game prices like stall of 200L, upgrade powder of 150L, etc. Right and that's my point about lowering tael prices. Those prices are static and very high. You literally cannot make enough to cover them with kidnapping now in any reasonable timeframe, and buying taels direct from snail for 30 bucks is way too high.
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I guess if people get poor enough, we will see more player stalls back in Suzhuo rather than buying world stalls? Set up an alt on a secondary pc, set up a stall...
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May 24, 2014 17:38
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PassiveSentence posted:
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PassiveSentence posted:
He let me gank him twice after losing duels outside Chengdu bank. Old Chienma logged into an instance if he had to take a poo poo. I don't think this is the same Chienma.
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Applying my Shaolin-turned-Vagrant-turned-Wanderer's Valley to guild: Xiaopeng. Also, gonna need a WV 3rd martial brother if anyone is willing/capable.
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Let's talk about disgusting pay2wins gently caress these spoiled children Also, the Rise And Fall of Mutou the Pay2Win (since I don't feel like retyping it)  
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Haroshia posted:Basically I think snail hosed themselves pretty hard. Rumors from Jizzwhiz talking to Earthquake said Snail was about one cunthair away from sun setting the game before the Steam launch and the influx of new players dug it away from being a total loss. Maybe I'm just a bittervet, but I can't see the game lasting for another year. Maybe if they do a big server merge that might save it, but even so that will just be delaying the inevitable. Goddamn I'd love to know more details about that, how true it is, etc. I've suspected that the game wasn't long for this world ever since I logged in back in like February or March and saw how amazingly dead everything was. Even now, while much better, it's still a very pale shadow of what it used to be. I have fun with the game, but I can't shake the ever-present feeling that it won't be long before we're back to that point. Which, for me, makes it hard to stay motivated to do all the crap I need to each day if I want to continue catching up and advancing and whatnot. Just leaves me kind of conflicted. Very interesting though, glad you shared that.
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Haquer posted:Also, the Rise And Fall of Mutou the Pay2Win (since I don't feel like retyping it)
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What is it about Chinagame and the female playerbase? Does it eat away their brains?
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Isn't Intoxicate like 14? Teen angst is my guess, coupled with sugar daddy issues. Koop, you gonna come watch hua? I can toss koop into whatever matches you want to watch otherwise.
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funakupo posted:What is it about Chinagame and the female playerbase? Does it eat away their brains? The crazy isn't restricted to gender. We know there was a guy who was literally going to leave his wife (and kid?) for his online wushu girlfriend.
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Kegslayer posted:The crazy isn't restricted to gender. We know there was a guy who was literally going to leave his wife (and kid?) for his online wushu girlfriend. That would be the guy who was married to Phueng (I don't remember his name). People are nutso.
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