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An "American Ronin" LOL what a complete and total turd. I mean yes his views do suggest an obsession with militant, feudalistic society but come on. No you don't get it, Ronin were samurai who were just so misunderstood and full of virtuous bootstraps that they couldn't stand to serve anyone because ARE FREEDOMS. Just like the Spartans MOLON LABE demoncraps! VVVV Unzip and Attack fucked around with this message at 21:40 on May 23, 2014 |
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What cracks me up is that a ronin was a shameful and undesirable thing to be. Now had West actually been dishonorably discharged and stripped of his benefits for war crimes, sure, run with it.
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# ? May 23, 2014 21:36 |
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Fried Chicken posted:Illinois Senate passed the ERA yesterday, it now goes to the House. Given that the house ratified it in 2003 and George Ryan spiked it, it probably has a good shot. That would put it at 36 if the 38 states needed to ratify. I went to look up the ERA to see what in particular is controversial about it. This is the full text: quote:Section 1. Equality of rights under the law shall not be denied or abridged by the United States or by any State on account of sex. So. I'm still confused. I thought that even most republicans would agree that women and men deserve to be treated equally under the law. What's the deal?
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# ? May 23, 2014 21:43 |
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Amused to Death posted:Anyone have a roll call of the failed vote to repeal the AUMF? Doesn't look like it is up yet, but should be posted here http://rules.house.gov/bill/113/hr-4435
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Jimbozig posted:I went to look up the ERA to see what in particular is controversial about it. Unisex bathrooms man.
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# ? May 23, 2014 21:45 |
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Jimbozig posted:I went to look up the ERA to see what in particular is controversial about it. Honestly it was defeated before I was born so I don't know the talking points. But consider that the son of the person who led the charge to kill it now runs Conservapedia.
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# ? May 23, 2014 21:46 |
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Phyllis loving Schflay.
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# ? May 23, 2014 21:50 |
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Jimbozig posted:I went to look up the ERA to see what in particular is controversial about it. There isn't a single philosophical opposition but the arguments against have been a collection of alleged "unintended consequences" such as mandatory unisex bathrooms, women required to be in combat, no single sex institutions like the Boy and Girl Scouts or colleges, full government funding of abortion, abolition of alimony, mandatory gender quotas in all professions, etc.
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Jimbozig posted:So. I'm still confused. I thought that even most republicans would agree that women and men deserve to be treated equally under the law. What's the deal? The loudest, most annoying republicans are against it because women belong making babies and doing house poo poo.
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mdemone posted:What a useful parallel you've drawn between a theoretical left-wing construct and a political party that controls a legislative house of the most powerful empire in history. Perhaps the latter see their party as one?
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Jimbozig posted:I went to look up the ERA to see what in particular is controversial about it. They probably saw that approach as coercive.
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# ? May 23, 2014 22:05 |
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I wonder why Julian Castro is getting all this ink and his twin brother Joaquin, a Texas Congressman, is getting zero ink. You'd think the D's would try to be promoting both of them just as hard.
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# ? May 23, 2014 22:11 |
zoux posted:I wonder why Julian Castro is getting all this ink and his twin brother Joaquin, a Texas Congressman, is getting zero ink. You'd think the D's would try to be promoting both of them just as hard. You always want to keep one in mint condition in the box in case you break the other one. tbp posted:Perhaps the latter see their party as one? Now there's a thought that's gonna fester.
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Swan Oat posted:
What the ever-loving gently caress? Who makes something like this and thinks: "Yes, this is a thing I want people to associate with me." The only person who would stand by this would be someone incapable of any sort of tact, humility or common sense. God dammit. I can't describe how much I'm in awe of this.
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ChaosSamusX posted:Someone incapable of any sort of tact, humility or common sense. Ah, I see you are familiar with former Congressman Alan West.
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# ? May 23, 2014 22:19 |
ChaosSamusX posted:The only person who would stand by this would be someone incapable of any sort of tact, humility or common sense. He brags about committing a war crime. The ship of tact has sailed. E:f,b
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Hmm Cruz has been the quiet side recently, what's he up to?Ted Cruz posted:Sen. Ted Cruz (R-TX) said Thursday that Democrats are making moves to repeal First Amendment rights to free speech and religious liberty. http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewire/ted-cruz-democrats-repeal-first-amendment
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Allen West would have fit in really well with COBRA Command.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Hmm Cruz has been the quiet side recently, what's he up to? This is disingenuous beyond belief, even for the Right. Jesus loving christ
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Hmm Cruz has been the quiet side recently, what's he up to? If words aren't going to mean things anymore then free speech is kind of irrelevant, so he can go ahead and make the world over into a Dr. Seuss book after all, I guess.
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Ted Cruz: buying elections counts as religious liberty.
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DemeaninDemon posted:Ted Cruz: buying elections counts as religious liberty. If the Koch brothers weren't right God wouldn't of made them rich.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Hmm Cruz has been the quiet side recently, what's he up to? He's 100% correct.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:Hmm Cruz has been the quiet side recently, what's he up to? Full text from http://beta.congress.gov/bill/113th-congress/senate-joint-resolution/19/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22udall%2C+tom%22%5D%7D quote:Section 1. To advance the fundamental principle of political equality for all, and to protect the integrity of the legislative and electoral processes, Congress shall have power to regulate the raising and spending of money and in-kind equivalents with respect to Federal elections, including through setting limits on: Tax-exempt religious institutions already aren't supposed to be fundraising for candidates, right? as an aside, if your content management system can't accept real quotes in TYOOL 2014, you should set your unix beard on fire and jump in a barrel full of gasoline god drat Munkeymon fucked around with this message at 23:24 on May 23, 2014 |
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:He's 100% correct. He's 100% wrong. There, now that we've both made assertions, since you went first I think your justification should go first. It's only proper.
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The very idea that Congress should have the authority to create campaign finance laws * is an assault on the first amendment *which they probably won't exercise https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HSEAQskbANk 'Money is our God, all things must be quantifiable. I am being paid to tell you this. Trust no one. Vote for me.'
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mdemone posted:He's 100% wrong. There, now that we've both made assertions, since you went first I think your justification should go first. It's only proper. Restricting "spending in support of or opposition to candidates" means that I can't so much as buy a political lawn sign without Congress' permission. hth
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Usually campaigns give away yard signs? I did that when I canvassed? We should have more open elections - like the Tokyo governor where 10 candidates get equal TV spots. With things like youtube you can have pools of 100 or so people given equal billing that get whittled down by voting, until there are 4 that go on the paper ballot in November. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gr9_uLlH3yk Not that Congress will do this if given restored power over campaign spending - they will just put limits on individual donations - but there will still be lots of nice loopholes.
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:Restricting "spending in support of or opposition to candidates" means that I can't so much as buy a political lawn sign without Congress' permission. hth So?
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:Restricting "spending in support of or opposition to candidates" means that I can't so much as buy a political lawn sign without Congress' permission. hth Even if that were an accurate reading of the bill, you need to elaborate on why that's a bad thing. My justification, as promised: Speech is fundamentally a relationship between humans (and is perhaps the quintessential example of the category). Money is the sine qua non symbol of the reification of relations-between-people into relations-between-things, ergo money is the antithesis of speech, no matter what sheltered, quasi-fascist bigots like John Roberts and Antonin Scalia think. Hope that helps.
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# ? May 24, 2014 00:02 |
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So some of my rightwing friends are going absolutely batshit over this white privelege conference "controversy", but everything I've heard/read that was said at this conference so far is entirely valid and reasonable (racism still exists, white people are priveleged, there is a cultural bias favoring Christianity, etc). It's just hilarious how conservatives are losing their poo poo over this, like it's some sort of proof that liberals are the REAL crazy ones. Sorry guys, they're just kinda stating the obvious. http://dailycaller.com/2014/05/20/w...-people-videos/
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Man I took a kid to a therapy appointment a couple of weeks ago and the agency had little posters, self-reflective quotes and graphs about white privilege stuck up on every door in the building. If I had snapped a couple of pictures I could have personally shaped the narrative of Fox News for a week.
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# ? May 24, 2014 00:33 |
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The only way to achieve equality in electoral speech is for much more open ballot access and public financing of elections I hope this helps.
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Kiwi Ghost Chips posted:Restricting "spending in support of or opposition to candidates" means that I can't so much as buy a political lawn sign without Congress' permission. hth There's like only one company that makes all political signs anyway. Maybe this will free the market? Open markets lead to open minds. Also, this should pass and Ted Cruz should still eat Jim Crow.
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Why is he wearing two watches?
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Lester Shy posted:Why is he wearing two watches?
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two stopped clocks are right four times a day
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One of them looks like a medic alert bracelet or something, to me.
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Swan Oat posted:
Wrapped in the flag. Today, whenever the motherfuckers surface, they come wrapped in the flag always. God can you imagine a someone's private library, just completely full of this poo poo that they get as gifts. Vast right wing book club/e-mail addy farm.
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mdemone posted:Even if that were an accurate reading of the bill, you need to elaborate on why that's a bad thing. Money enables speech. Saying that restricting spending doesn't restrict free speech is like saying that outlawing paying for a lawyer doesn't infringe criminal defense rights.
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