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Arcade and Murderworld are awesome. It's not his fault he's in a lovely story.
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srypher posted:I'm just getting into reading comics again and holy poo poo is Marvel putting out some excellent stuff. All-New Ghost Rider, X-Force, Ms. Marvel - there's an unreal amount of great, ongoing series to read. If you can, get the trades for Thor: God of Thunder
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May 26, 2014 21:14
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srypher posted:I'm just getting into reading comics again and holy poo poo is Marvel putting out some excellent stuff. All-New Ghost Rider, X-Force, Ms. Marvel - there's an unreal amount of great, ongoing series to read. A lot of posters here like to poo poo on everything but we're really in a wonderful spot right now. There's far fewer "bad" comics coming out of Marvel these days than "good." Sure those terms are subjective but the overwhelming opinion is that Marvel loving rocks these days.
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May 26, 2014 21:17
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ArmyOfMidgets posted:If you can, get the trades for Thor: God of Thunder Just finished getting caught up on The Bitter March and Elektra, so I'll probably start reading through God of Thunder now. The only question I have is why Marvel has so many drat Avenger's series. Are all of them actually worth reading, or are they just trying to play to the huge success of the film?
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May 26, 2014 22:03
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srypher posted:Just finished getting caught up on The Bitter March and Elektra, so I'll probably start reading through God of Thunder now. The only question I have is why Marvel has so many drat Avenger's series. Are all of them actually worth reading, or are they just trying to play to the huge success of the film? Avengers and New Avengers are absolutely worth it. The others, ymmv.
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May 26, 2014 22:09
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srypher posted:Just finished getting caught up on The Bitter March and Elektra, so I'll probably start reading through God of Thunder now. The only question I have is why Marvel has so many drat Avenger's series. Are all of them actually worth reading, or are they just trying to play to the huge success of the film? Definitely check out the "flagship" books by Hickman though.
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May 26, 2014 22:09
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srypher posted:Just finished getting caught up on The Bitter March and Elektra, so I'll probably start reading through God of Thunder now. The only question I have is why Marvel has so many drat Avenger's series. Are all of them actually worth reading, or are they just trying to play to the huge success of the film? The Avengers megathread sums up each series pretty well. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3627761 It's been kind of quiet because the 2 main books slowed down a bit after infinity to explore some nonsense about life and death and the contrasting teams and stuff but the most recent issues have it starting to pick back up with the secrets revealed in Original Sin. I really disliked the last run of Secret but I hear good things about the current run. They've got a MODOK who's bitter about not being involved in AIM Island.
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May 26, 2014 22:10
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Mighty Avengers is really good if you can look past the Land art.
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May 26, 2014 22:30
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Chortles posted:The guy behind Avengers Arena, or so the belief at BSS went (that that's why it happened)? Well I've heard he then killed Arcade off in Undercover, so I guess that was a load of poo poo. I guess maybe it was meant to somehow appease the people pissed off by Arena? Because that was the one problem everyone had with that story, of course. Oh, and apparently he's managed to inadvertently insult people with PTSD along the way, so nice one Hopeless.
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May 26, 2014 22:33
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He really does have the most fitting last name.
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May 26, 2014 23:16
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I keep thinking he was involved with Hopeless Savages, but he wasn't, was he?
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May 26, 2014 23:20
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StumblyWumbly posted:I keep thinking he was involved with Hopeless Savages, but he wasn't, was he? That was Jen Van Meter and Becky Cloonan, off the top of my head. Rucka's been teasing more Savages for the last year or so.
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May 27, 2014 00:07
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Yvonmukluk posted:Well I've heard he then killed Arcade off in Undercover, so I guess that was a load of poo poo. I guess maybe it was meant to somehow appease the people pissed off by Arena? Because that was the one problem everyone had with that story, of course. He's a hack and he wrote the story with the idea people would flock to it so he could drag out the old "Maybe the reader is the bad guy for wanting characters killed off" chestnut. Which feels rather false when your numbers are dropping so fast they are threatening to crack the sound barrier. His Undercover is essentially him trying to do damage control with a rich vein of bitterness that his big statement fell on flat it's face running through it.
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May 27, 2014 01:56
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Die Laughing posted:Arcade and Murderworld are awesome. It's not his fault he's in a lovely story. I was about to say, "Well, that's fair...", but then I remembered seeing a panel of Arcade lighting a cigar by striking a match on Dr. Doom's armor, and 
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May 27, 2014 02:17
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Red posted:I was about to say, "Well, that's fair...", but then I remembered seeing a panel of Arcade lighting a cigar by striking a match on Dr. Doom's armor, and Someone (I think Byrne) retconned that to a Doombot. Doom sees the bot with a mark on its chest from that and he destroys it.
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May 27, 2014 02:22
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Warren Ellis wrote a brief run (six one-shot stories) in the pre-Marvel NOW Secret Avengers, conveniently collected into one trade. It's quite good, too.
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May 27, 2014 02:26
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muscles like this? posted:Someone (I think Byrne) retconned that to a Doombot. Doom sees the bot with a mark on its chest from that and he destroys it. thats so loving lame holy crap
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May 27, 2014 03:16
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jsoh posted:thats so loving lame holy crap In real life it was a douche move and Byrne was being a petty dick, but the page itself was badass. 
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May 27, 2014 03:19
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muscles like this? posted:Someone (I think Byrne) retconned that to a Doombot. Doom sees the bot with a mark on its chest from that and he destroys it. Ayup. From FF 258: edit well shucks, see above!!
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May 27, 2014 03:23
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muscles like this? posted:Someone (I think Byrne) retconned that to a Doombot. Doom sees the bot with a mark on its chest from that and he destroys it. I guess I should've expected that. Everything ends up being retconned to being a Doombot. Did they ever explain the Doom in tears at 9/11 was a Doombot?  As far as I know, FF #350 is the king of Doombot retcons:   Later, when facing Ben Grimm: 
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May 27, 2014 03:25
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jsoh posted:thats so loving lame holy crap I believe it was part of Byrne's campaign to make any appearance of Doom that he did not like to be a Doombot.
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May 27, 2014 04:06
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muscles like this? posted:I believe it was part of Byrne's campaign to make any appearance of Doom that he did not like to be a Doombot. Wonder what his reaction was to Squirrel Girl beating up Dr Doom?
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May 27, 2014 04:16
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muscles like this? posted:I believe it was part of Byrne's campaign to make any appearance of Doom that he did not like to be a Doombot. That, plus a healthy dose of "gently caress you Chris," given that the scene being retconned occurred in Claremont's X-Men. The parting of the Byrne/Claremont team was... not all that amicable, as I understand it.
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Rirse posted:Wonder what his reaction was to Squirrel Girl beating up Dr Doom? I think he only cared while he was writing Fantastic Four.
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May 27, 2014 05:05
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I have absolutely no doubt that someone has made the argument that we've never met the real Doom, and that it's always been a Doombot ever since Fantastic Four #5.
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May 27, 2014 11:22
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Schneider Heim posted:Warren Ellis wrote a brief run (six one-shot stories) in the pre-Marvel NOW Secret Avengers, conveniently collected into one trade. It's quite good, too. And Remender's Secret Avengers run is pretty good as well. Has some great moments with Pym, Hawkeye, and Flash in it.
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May 27, 2014 12:24
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Red posted:FF #350 I know guns in comic books are always a bit special. But that gun is extra short bus. His hand appears to be going through the whole thing!
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May 27, 2014 13:33
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SirDan3k posted:He's a hack and he wrote the story with the idea people would flock to it so he could drag out the old "Maybe the reader is the bad guy for wanting characters killed off" chestnut. Which feels rather false when your numbers are dropping so fast they are threatening to crack the sound barrier. I thought he originally just wanted to write a Braddock Academy series and editorial told him to make it Hunger Games? It's probably not entirely his fault. Rirse posted:Wonder what his reaction was to Squirrel Girl beating up Dr Doom? I think the genesis of Squirrel Girl's 'beat everyone' powers was because her defeat of Doom was one of the few cases that was never retconned as a Doombot.
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Metal Loaf posted:I have absolutely no doubt that someone has made the argument that we've never met the real Doom, and that it's always been a Doombot ever since Fantastic Four #5. Whereas my personal philosophy is that it's never been a Doombot. Doom just keeps them around to blame his defeats on.
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May 27, 2014 14:53
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IUG posted:I know guns in comic books are always a bit special. But that gun is extra short bus. His hand appears to be going through the whole thing! Fool! Do not question Doom's design in firearms! Leave such weak weapons as Desert Eagles to the peasants! 
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May 27, 2014 23:35
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I always loved how Doom was often drawn holding a Luger. Because this is the ultimate techno-wizard. He's got magic out the wazu, he's got force fields that can stun Spider-Man, hand beams that can blow apart Sentinels, finger beams that can take down the Thing. But should all that fail, the dude is still packing heat. And not just any heat, Vintage World War 2 officer type heat. Plus, you never know. That Luger he's holding could be Megatron JUST waiting for the chance to make the most badass crossover appearance ever.
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May 28, 2014 00:11
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So over the weekend I got the first Young Avengers trade. Why didn't I pick this up earlier? Kid Loki is amazing. Though its weird seeing Kate outside of Hawkeye.
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May 28, 2014 00:24
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The Question IRL posted:I always loved how Doom was often drawn holding a Luger. How else would you know he was a villain, unless he was holding a gun that's strongly identified with the German military?
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May 28, 2014 00:24
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Maybe it's the gun Hitler shot himself with. Must have all kind of arcane power. Didn't Doctor Strange use that in the BKV Oath miniseries with Marcos Martin? That comic was THE poo poo.
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May 28, 2014 01:28
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Someone used it to shoot Strange, I think. The residual evil got past his defenses.
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May 28, 2014 01:38
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I 'm also just getting back into reading comics and recently picked up Hawkeye and Ms Marvel. I remembered liking the Fraction/Aja team on Iron Fist back when and they did not disappoint me this time either. But the best surprise for me was Annie Wu's issues, holy poo poo she's just as good as Aja and I love her expressions so much how has I not heard of her before I want to read more comics drawn by this lady. Ms Marvel is also a real joy, I didn't care much for Alphona's art in Runaways but the more cartoony style here really works. I want to pick up the new Young Avengers and Secret Avengers purely for more Clint and Kate, are they more or less self-contained or do I have to deal with crossover events happening?
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cammy14 posted:I 'm also just getting back into reading comics and recently picked up Hawkeye and Ms Marvel. I remembered liking the Fraction/Aja team on Iron Fist back when and they did not disappoint me this time either. But the best surprise for me was Annie Wu's issues, holy poo poo she's just as good as Aja and I love her expressions so much how has I not heard of her before I want to read more comics drawn by this lady.
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d00gZ posted:Maybe it's the gun Hitler shot himself with. Must have all kind of arcane power. Didn't Doctor Strange use that in the BKV Oath miniseries with Marcos Martin? That comic was THE poo poo. Didn't the Human Torch (not Johnny) kill Hitler?
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May 28, 2014 04:51
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:Didn't the Human Torch (not Johnny) kill Hitler? cable and deadpool and nick fury killed hitler, in the 50s
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Bucky also claimed to have killed Hitler.
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