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psyopmonkey
Nov 15, 2008

by Lowtax

milktwice posted:

Why haven't you tried harder to enjoy anime?

There are other things I enjoy more. If I run out of those things ill give it a shot.

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Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

All of the quick-joke "kill yourself" responses in this thread are actually disgusting and everyone who posted them, ironically or not, should feel bad about themselves.

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois

Bicyclops posted:

All of the quick-joke "kill yourself" responses in this thread are actually disgusting and everyone who posted them, ironically or not, should feel bad about themselves.

hackbunny
Jul 22, 2007

I haven't been on SA for years but the person who gave me my previous av as a joke felt guilty for doing so and decided to get me a non-shitty av
The non-quick ones are worse

Chuck Tanner
Nov 10, 2012

by Lowtax

Bicyclops posted:

All of the quick-joke "kill yourself" responses in this thread are actually disgusting and everyone who posted them, ironically or not, should feel bad about themselves.

go back to gbs 1.0

circ dick soleil
Sep 27, 2012

by zen death robot

psyopmonkey posted:

Nope. Im pretty sure a pushup with your penis is impossible. Im not an expert on those subjects.

its not

Mrenda
Mar 14, 2012

Milky Moor posted:

op, not to sound like an rear end in a top hat, but why does it seem like most trans individuals are male to female? shouldn't the divide be somewhat more even between mtf and ftm? i can't help but think it's somewhat like bronies - that is, a reaction by young men who aren't conventionally masculine and don't really know how to deal with it beyond embracing a strange view of feminity

There's buttloads of trans men. This is horrific generalisation but trans men generally "pass" better than trans women and so blend into life more easily. Testosterone is additive to the body. When trans women go through a male puberty their bodies are changed to a point that can't be undone without surgeries. When trans men take testosterone effects are added to the body, their voices break, they grow hair, they bulk up. This generally makes it easier for them to live their life. On the downside genital reconstructive surgery is harder for trans men than it is for trans women.

Basically, trans men blend in better while bitches be crazy.

Milky Moor posted:

no, no, i don't mean that. sure, they can be harder to identify visually, but all over the net it seems like there's more lonely young men who are opting to change their gender then there are young women. maybe it's confirmation bias but, i don't know, it just seems odd.


Really, it entirely depends on where you go. The trans support group I go to is about 3:1 trans men to trans women.

Milky Moor posted:

like, is there a numerical disparity between the before-switch genders? is it something to do with biological development in the womb? have there been any reasons theorised for it (if that is the case)? i just can't help but think there's a big social aspect to it, that it's not just neural hardware. i know it's a bit 'nature of nurture' but has this sort of thing been investigated or talked about?

I don't know of any medical science that's investigated reasons there may be more MTFs than FTMs, even presuming that's true. Layman theorising on the latest theories (hormonal situations in the womb) would be that female is the default state for a fetus. A "trigger" is flipped and male development of the fetus begins. Maybe for MTFs that change to male isn't completed, whereas for FTMs the trigger is flipped but the change isn't complete. So it might be logical that it's more common for there to be more MTFs because there's more likelihood for things to go wrong. But this is all my theorising as an internet-expert.


God Of Paradise posted:

Why do you personally view having no sex drive as a positive thing?

Why does that make you happier?

The "male" reaction to sex impulses is dysphoric for a lot of trans people. Getting rid of that can ease a lot of pain. It certainly did for me. However I find it both good and bad. I did like getting off, but porn just doesn't do anything for me now. I've been in a few cuddle situations (literally just cuddling) and that's a lot of fun, but at the moment I'm not happy with my appearance and body to pursue a relationship. For me having a satisfactory relationship with someone and a good sex life is one of the many reasons for transition.

milktwice posted:

Why haven't you tried harder to enjoy anime?

The signal to noise ratio is awful. The last anime recommended to me was Topen Tengan Gurren Lagan (or something.) It was awful. Also I've been informed that the levels of fanservice and panty shots, etc. has gone through the roof and I've no interest in that and the people whose opinion on anime I would trust have stopped watching it. I do like anime though, I've watched the entirety of Hunter x Hunter (which is awesome,) the original FMA, Cowboy Bebop (but never start to finish) and I've tried a few others.

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois

Mr. Mallory posted:

go back to gbs 1.0
You're on the wrong side of history. gently caress off to somethingsensitive.

circ dick soleil
Sep 27, 2012

by zen death robot

Sabel posted:

You're on the wrong side of history. gently caress off to somethingsensitive.

clam down sabel

Chuck Tanner
Nov 10, 2012

by Lowtax

Sabel posted:

You're on the wrong side of history. gently caress off to somethingsensitive.

lol look at this fag here

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois

Mrenda posted:

The signal to noise ratio is awful. The last anime recommended to me was Topen Tengan Gurren Lagan (or something.) It was awful. Also I've been informed that the levels of fanservice and panty shots, etc. has gone through the roof and I've no interest in that and the people whose opinion on anime I would trust have stopped watching it. I do like anime though, I've watched the entirety of Hunter x Hunter (which is awesome,) the original FMA, Cowboy Bebop (but never start to finish) and I've tried a few others.
There's a long history of general acceptance of gender variance in anime but especially as of late the fetishy "trap" stuff may be offputting. Tumblrisms thankfully haven't infected this world yet. You might enjoy Wandering Son.

Mrenda
Mar 14, 2012

Sabel posted:

There's a long history of general acceptance of gender variance in anime but especially as of late the fetishy "trap" stuff may be offputting. Tumblrisms thankfully haven't infected this world yet. You might enjoy Wandering Son.

I have no interest in watching shows about children unless they're the Belcher children. I haven't watched the Miyazaki stuff so I might give them a go if they're on Netflix.

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

hackbunny posted:

The non-quick ones are worse

Actually, this is true.

Mr. Mallory posted:

go back to gbs 1.0

Being a bargain basement shockphrase shithead isn't actually funny at all, FYI

circ dick soleil
Sep 27, 2012

by zen death robot

a hole-y ghost posted:

gotta love that "you're not fooling anyone" attitude though
*years of irreversible therapy & operations*
it was all a masterful trick.. .those rubes will think I'm a women and I'll think... april fools :twisted:

that's literally what people were expecting to happen in the last e/n troon thread

circ dick soleil fucked around with this message at 19:06 on May 27, 2014

ditty bout my clitty
May 28, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe
Are you a gateway drug for aspiring lesbians?

psyopmonkey
Nov 15, 2008

by Lowtax

Ilustforponydeath posted:

Are you a gateway drug for aspiring lesbians?

Nah, im the gateway to adventure and amazing food. :colbert:

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

Ilustforponydeath posted:

Are you a gateway drug for aspiring lesbians?

See, this is what I mean, this kind of humor might as well be accompanied by adjusting a necktie and screaming "HEY-ohhhh!!" to the audible response of Trey Parker and Matt Stone snickering over an otherwise deafening awkward silence.

bonestructure
Sep 25, 2008

by Ralp
I dunno, I laughed.

See, that was a joke. Unlike the "kill yourself" brigade, it was funny, and not mean-spirited. I am not funny myself, but I enjoy funny jokes! :D

psyopmonkey
Nov 15, 2008

by Lowtax

Mrenda posted:

There's buttloads of trans men. This is horrific generalisation but trans men generally "pass" better than trans women and so blend into life more easily. Testosterone is additive to the body. When trans women go through a male puberty their bodies are changed to a point that can't be undone without surgeries. When trans men take testosterone effects are added to the body, their voices break, they grow hair, they bulk up. This generally makes it easier for them to live their life. On the downside genital reconstructive surgery is harder for trans men than it is for trans women.

Basically, trans men blend in better while bitches be crazy.

Thats another reason why I think families and doctors should be more apt to use Testosterone blockers to halt the puberty of MtF youth. Put the patient through their paces but why wait until 18 when all the damage is already done?

psyopmonkey
Nov 15, 2008

by Lowtax

Bicyclops posted:

See, this is what I mean, this kind of humor might as well be accompanied by adjusting a necktie and screaming "HEY-ohhhh!!" to the audible response of Trey Parker and Matt Stone snickering over an otherwise deafening awkward silence.

You mean humor on a comedy website, on the internet?

BLASPHEMY! BURN THE HERETIC, KILL THE MUTANT, SLAY THE NON BELIBER!

Mrenda
Mar 14, 2012

psyopmonkey posted:

Thats another reason why I think families and doctors should be more apt to use Testosterone blockers to halt the puberty of MtF youth. Put the patient through their paces but why wait until 18 when all the damage is already done?

Yeah, I agree. It wouldn't have done much for me. I was 27 before I accepted I had the trans.

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois
Humor should be funnier than haha, curbstomp the tranny friend of the family kikes :xd: Hitler did nothing wrong :iamafag: prodromal schizophrenia

fuck the ROW
Aug 29, 2008

by zen death robot

psyopmonkey posted:

Thats another reason why I think families and doctors should be more apt to use Testosterone blockers to halt the puberty of MtF youth. Put the patient through their paces but why wait until 18 when all the damage is already done?

this is real good evidence for not listening to crazy troons, right here

Chuck Tanner
Nov 10, 2012

by Lowtax
if anyone itt should kill themselves its the social justice warriors

Mrenda
Mar 14, 2012

gently caress the ROW posted:

this is real good evidence for not listening to crazy troons, right here

Or dem crazy doctors with medical degrees and lots of training and international recognition and peer support. Crazy doctors.

psyopmonkey
Nov 15, 2008

by Lowtax

Mrenda posted:

Yeah, I agree. It wouldn't have done much for me. I was 27 before I accepted I had the trans.

I was 23 when I started black market HRT. I think the fact that I was working out, ate healthy, and stayed active made my transition easier and the HRT more effective.

fuck the ROW
Aug 29, 2008

by zen death robot

Mrenda posted:

Or dem crazy doctors with medical degrees and lots of training and international recognition and peer support. Crazy doctors.

Wow, don't medical degree shame please. There are doctors that say trannies are mentally ill people sexually self obsessed with the idea of themselves as the opposite gender, and you'd probably be real upset to find that out, and wouldn't want much to do with doctors then

Al Cowens
Aug 11, 2004

by WE B Bourgeois

Mr. Mallory posted:

if anyone itt should kill themselves its the social justice warriors
You can find plenty of those in many corners of the internet, but there aren't any in this thread. You're barking up the wrong tree.

ditty bout my clitty
May 28, 2011

by FactsAreUseless
Fun Shoe

Bicyclops posted:

See, this is what I mean, this kind of humor might as well be accompanied by adjusting a necktie and screaming "HEY-ohhhh!!" to the audible response of Trey Parker and Matt Stone snickering over an otherwise deafening awkward silence.

This isn't the aspbergers thread.

psyopmonkey
Nov 15, 2008

by Lowtax

gently caress the ROW posted:

Wow, don't medical degree shame please. There are doctors that say trannies are mentally ill people sexually self obsessed with the idea of themselves as the opposite gender, and you'd probably be real upset to find that out, and wouldn't want much to do with doctors then

I havent met a doctor like that yet, including army doctors.

Most just want people to be happy and healthy in their own bodies.

Moreover, being a DISGUSTING AWFUL UNGODLY TRANNY is no longer considered a mental illness in the DSM...

Heres a nickle kid, go buy yourself a better argument. :clint:

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

Sabel posted:

Humor should be funnier than haha, curbstomp the tranny friend of the family kikes :xd: Hitler did nothing wrong :iamafag: prodromal schizophrenia

Basically this, that stuff is gross white noise.

Ilustforponydeath posted:

This isn't the aspbergers thread.

This for example isn't even a joke and if you think about it for more than a second it doesn't even make sense.

Maoist Pussy
Feb 12, 2014

by Lowtax

Mrenda posted:

Or dem crazy doctors with medical degrees and lots of training and international recognition and peer support. Crazy doctors.

You can find a doctor that will say anything, though. You can find a doctor that will prescribe opiates and horse placenta as a cure for night terrors.

circ dick soleil
Sep 27, 2012

by zen death robot

bonestructure posted:

I dunno, I laughed.

See, that was a joke. Unlike the "kill yourself" brigade, it was funny, and not mean-spirited. I am not funny myself, but I enjoy funny jokes! :D

GBS needs more good spirited jokes imho. The forums have gotten too hostile lately.

Mrenda
Mar 14, 2012

Maoist Pussy posted:

You can find a doctor that will say anything, though. You can find a doctor that will prescribe opiates and horse placenta as a cure for night terrors.

As has already been pointed out those would be doctors not following standard medical procedures. I mean there's pretty much scientific consensus on the treatment of troons. The doctors you're talking about are one step up from homeopathy.

fuck the ROW
Aug 29, 2008

by zen death robot

psyopmonkey posted:

I havent met a doctor like that yet, including army doctors.

Most just want people to be happy and healthy in their own bodies.

Moreover, being a DISGUSTING AWFUL UNGODLY TRANNY is no longer considered a mental illness in the DSM...

Heres a nickle kid, go buy yourself a better argument. :clint:

don't worry they tried to fire the doctor doing the study about self obsession for doing 'politically damaging' science :D Sadly he was still able to publish his results, and so was that other politically damaging guy that did the studies on the rates of mental illness among gender dysphoriacs

My real question for the live troons in this thread though, and this is quite serious: do all men have vaginas? Someone in another thread said they don't and this doesn't sound right to me

Maoist Pussy
Feb 12, 2014

by Lowtax
Yes, and it is like the scientific consensus on what to do about your crazy aunt who makes facebook posts about chemtrails.

George H.W. Cunt
Oct 6, 2010





i thought a troon was just a girl that looked like she could have been a guy. not really feeling goons taking that one.

Starving Autist
Oct 20, 2007

by Ralp

gently caress the ROW posted:

Wow, don't medical degree shame please. There are doctors that say trannies are mentally ill people sexually self obsessed with the idea of themselves as the opposite gender, and you'd probably be real upset to find that out, and wouldn't want much to do with doctors then

there are also doctors that say anal sex causes the gay rectal disease, so

Bicyclops
Aug 27, 2004

If gently caress the ROW were in charge we'd probably go back to the DSM-II and reclassify homosexuality as a mental illness, except with some clarification like "Except, only the ones who bother me, like if they have a tumblr about it or whatever."

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psyopmonkey
Nov 15, 2008

by Lowtax

gently caress the ROW posted:

My real question for the live troons in this thread though, and this is quite serious: do all men have vaginas? Someone in another thread said they don't and this doesn't sound right to me

Of course not. That doesn't even make sense.

If we are talking about the neonatal thing, then I guess technically yes.

Silly question.

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