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You know, I thought for three-four weeks that Terrelle Pryor may be able to throw a ball someday. How misled I was.
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Dexo posted:cake stuff, no loving contest. Why would you bring up any other Stafford. I see where you're coming from but I think lunchmeat Stafford is at least as good and probably slightly better than cake Stafford. 
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May 28, 2014 19:41
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Shath Hole posted:It does for me On one hand I understand where you're coming from. On the other hand, this line of thinking got Matt Cassel $28m guaranteed.
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May 28, 2014 19:42
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Mike Glennon is made out of angel food cake.
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May 28, 2014 19:42
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Shath Hole posted:Year Team G QBRat Comp Att Pct Yds Y/G Y/A TD Int I hate saying this, but did you even watch the games he played? It was against the Redskins, Cowboys, and Lions. That was after the Lions' implosion, mind you. I disagree that this means he had a better season because he only played teams that could barely challenge even a bad QB. Stats don't mean poo poo if you don't add words to them. Of course a QB will look good playing the bad defenses. That's a given. McCown is definitely a smart QB, but his games were the equivalent of dunking on a baby. Anyone would look good. 3 DONG HORSE fucked around with this message at 19:45 on May 28, 2014 |
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May 28, 2014 19:42
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I would not. I only brought it up because you referenced statistics, and looking at those stats, one could make the argument McCown had the better season*.
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Kalli posted:On one hand I understand where you're coming from. Oh I completely agree and again I am in now way saying McCown is the better QB. old dog child posted:You're stupid. Did you even watch the games he played? It was against the Redskins, Cowboys, and Lions. That was after the Lions' implosion, mind you. I disagree that this means he had a better season because he only played steams that could barely challenge even a bad QB.  I give up. This is a pointless and stupid argument that was taken entirely out of context.
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May 28, 2014 19:44
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Do you want Matthew Stafford, Matthew Stafford made of lunchmeats, or Matthew Stafford made out of fancy cake stuff? Trick question, the correct answer is none of the above because you want to actually win a playoff game
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May 28, 2014 19:44
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Mike Glennon is made out of angel food cake.  Because he is a giraffe, you see
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May 28, 2014 19:45
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Shath Hole posted:Oh I completely agree and again I am in now way saying McCown is the better QB. Sorry, I edited my post and made it less mean But why did you bring up McCown in the first place if not to argue he's better than Cutler? You were already in the middle of a discussion about Smith vs Cutler. It kind implies that you think that when we're talking about "who's better". e: I'll admit his decision making is a lot less risky than Cutler, but I think Cutler just goes for it so he can smoke sooner e2: sorry for being a dick, I have not been in a good mood since Friday night 3 DONG HORSE fucked around with this message at 19:49 on May 28, 2014 |
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May 28, 2014 19:46
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I'd just like to take a moment of silence to appreciate how far this forum has come on not hating everything about Cutler, and infact embracing our Rex Grossman on Steroids of a quarterback. I'd like to thank MJD for being an rear end in a top hat, and ESPN for pushing the narrative making everyone sick of hearing it. old dog child posted:Sorry, I edited my post and made it less mean He was probably was just using McCown as a small side swipe more than anything serious. But I'm really really bored at work.
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May 28, 2014 19:48
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Shath Hole posted:Not disagreeing with that point, but I would question the "highly accomplished" part. No doubt he has all the physical tools, but he makes a lot of really, really dumb plays "franchise QBs" should not be making. I just wanted to bring this up because IMO it's not that he's making "bonehead plays" or not seeing the defense or whatever. A good majority of Cutler's errors, bad throws, interceptions etc seem to come not from being dumb but from an over-confidence in his arm. You'd never guess it by looking at his bitchface but it was the biggest source of frustration to me, especially in the early days. Having the loving greatest WR duo in the NFL to snag balls out of tight spots has helped this, and working with Trestman even for just a small time has as well, but it's still there. In the early days he used to rifle passes through tiny windows and the ball would either be off just enough for a defender to get a hand on it or for the ball to bounce off Devin Hester's hands and into the safety's. And then the very next drive he would go out and do it again. e- also i'm not joining the dogpile on you because at least one other person agreed with you but you were the first one to say it GNU Order fucked around with this message at 19:50 on May 28, 2014 |
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May 28, 2014 19:48
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old dog child posted:Sorry, I edited my post and made it less mean Truth be told, I only brought up McCown because I am not, and never really have been, a Cutler fan and ole' Joshy had a really good year filling in for him. I think he is super talented, but there just seems like something is missing there. I do *not* think McCown is on the same level as Cutler...McCown has had an absolutely terrible career and has had 1 good season. You weren't being a dick, no need to apologize. It's all good. This is what this forum is for 
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May 28, 2014 19:55
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Dexo posted:I'd just like to take a moment of silence to appreciate how far this forum has come on not hating everything about Cutler, and infact embracing our Rex Grossman on Steroids of a quarterback. Telling you right now if Cutler was a weaker armed QB everyone would loathe him. TFF pretty much only cares about deep bombs, which granted are phenomenally fun, but are low percentage plays that don't win football games alone.
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May 28, 2014 19:56
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Doltos posted:Telling you right now if Cutler was a weaker armed QB everyone would loathe him. TFF pretty much only cares about deep bombs, which granted are phenomenally fun, but are low percentage plays that don't win football games alone. Good thing Cutler is IIRC Literally the most accurate deep QB in the League.
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May 28, 2014 19:57
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Shath Hole posted:Truth be told, I only brought up McCown because I am not, and never really have been, a Cutler fan and ole' Joshy had a really good year filling in for him. I think he is super talented, but there just seems like something is missing there. I do *not* think McCown is on the same level as Cutler...McCown has had an absolutely terrible career and has had 1 good season. Well all you really had to say was that you never liked Cutler and none of this would have happened. Because seriously, Alex Smith better than Cutler? Alright, whatever man. Dexo posted:Good thing Cutler is IIRC Literally the most accurate deep QB in the League. Probably helps when your deep threat is Alshon Jeffrey and not Devin loving Hester. Man, some of those WR corps are the stuff of nightmares. shiksa fucked around with this message at 20:01 on May 28, 2014 |
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May 28, 2014 19:59
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No Butt Stuff posted:He's not getting a contract this off season. I like Alex Smith, but he is straight up not proven to be worth 18 million yet. Enjoy the final year of this contract, the tag, and then being let go for Aaron Murray/Tyler Bray. I will go to the hyper-Republican church near my house for a year if Smith walks next year.
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May 28, 2014 19:59
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shiksa posted:Because seriously, Alex Smith better than Cutler? Alright, whatever man. I never said he was bet- gently caress it, I'm going drinking.
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May 28, 2014 20:00
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A Pale Horse posted:He can't do this I'm pretty sure almost any player in the NFL could have done that to that defense.
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May 28, 2014 20:01
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Shath Hole posted:I never said he was bet- Noooooo, At least light one up for out of respect for Cutler's Diabetes.
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May 28, 2014 20:01
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Shath Hole posted:I never said he was bet- Fine, you'd take him over Cutler. I kind of figured those were interchangeable, sorry, my bad.
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May 28, 2014 20:02
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Dexo posted:Good thing Cutler is IIRC Literally the most accurate deep QB in the League. Yeah I mentioned that right off the bat when Shath asked the question. The touch he has on deep balls with the velocity he has is remarkable. There's so many huge armed QBs that come and go in the NFL that can put a ball 60 yards down field in a two second throw but can't hit their target at all. Vick comes to mind, as does Boller.
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May 28, 2014 20:02
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May 28, 2014 20:02
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Volkerball posted:
You realize he started doing that celebration after the article that called him a thug and a bad role model for having tattoos came out, right?
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May 28, 2014 20:03
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NippleFloss posted:I'm pretty sure almost any player in the NFL could have done that to that defense. That's pretty much a Joe Staley highlight anyway. That block 
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May 28, 2014 20:05
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old dog child posted:I'm smoking a cigarette for everyone in this thread What kinda cigarette? 
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May 28, 2014 20:05
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So did it get mentioned yet that Julio Jones brother was apparently shot and might lose his arm? http://www.thefalcoholic.com/2014/5/28/5758406/report-julio-jones-brother-shot That's two Falcons wr's with brothers who have been shot this offseason edit: already covered dont hate the playa fucked around with this message at 20:15 on May 28, 2014 |
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May 28, 2014 20:05
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Grozz Nuy posted:You realize he started doing that celebration after the article that called him a thug and a bad role model for having tattoos came out, right? It owns btw. Kaep is super cool and Russel Wilson is lame and boring, I don't know how anyone could disagree with this unless they were 50 years old.
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May 28, 2014 20:06
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Kirios posted:Player A: 308 completions | 508 attempts | 60.6% completion percentage | 3,313 yards | 6.52 YPA | 23 TDs | 7 INTs | 49.4 QBR | 89.1 quarterback rating The difference being that Smith had a year and a half of being an even better player than that immediately prior to his season with the Chiefs, but who cares about context?
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May 28, 2014 20:10
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shiksa posted:It owns btw. Oh god this. If I have to see that loving boring rear end RW tablet commercial one more time  Kaep rules.
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May 28, 2014 20:12
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Doltos posted:Both look like pretty great statlines to me unless I'm missing something here. My very first thought. That's like using dan marinos numbers as some sort of deductive reasoning to conclude that a certain qb won't win a Super Bowl or something.
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May 28, 2014 20:13
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Parmesan Basil posted:I will go to the hyper-Republican church near my house for a year if Smith walks next year. Is it Church of the Resurrection? Because that would be fitting considering his numbers last year.
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May 28, 2014 20:13
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I've been the most consistent cutler fan on these boards - even going way back to broncos days when I said over and over id take him over rivers. Not anymore. I'm not seeing his deep ball there much anymore, I'm seeing super erratic play masked by incredibly efforts by receivers (loving hell Marshall!) and I think it's unfair to pretend that curlers criticisms are mostly due him being a (funny) prick off the field
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May 28, 2014 20:15
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AAA DOLFAN posted:My very first thought. That's like using dan marinos numbers as some sort of deductive reasoning to conclude that a certain qb won't win a Super Bowl or something. #NumbersNeverLie after the break we'll explain why the STATS show that utility players like Aaron Hernandez are 2.6 times more likely to commit murder
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May 28, 2014 20:16
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Matthew Stafford is the best quarterback in the NFC North, discuss.
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May 28, 2014 20:17
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Matthew Stafford is the best quarterback in the NFC North, discuss. Sorry bud, it's Bridgewater.
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May 28, 2014 20:19
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Matthew Stafford is the best quarterback in the NFC North, discuss. What the gently caress is there to discuss..   I wish Cutler could party like Stafford. Rodgers probably gets all pissy when a chick says that his dancing isn't perfect and is only above average.
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May 28, 2014 20:21
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Dexo posted:What the gently caress is there to discuss.. Rodgers is the best QB in the NFL, let alone the NFC North but Stafford is clearly smarter because drat those titties.
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May 28, 2014 20:24
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Detroit_Dogg posted:Matthew Stafford is the best quarterback in the NFC North, discuss. i dont understand why youre limiting this quesiton to just the nfc north???
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May 28, 2014 20:41
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Pron on VHS posted:One of the Glazers just bit it Yeah it popped up on my ipad app but I can't find it anywhere else. Saying it was Malcolm Glazer. e: Their official twitter is reporting it: https://twitter.com/TBBuccaneers/status/471739511261523968
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