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Hardflip posted:Qatar World Cup: '$5m payments to officials' corruption claim There's also this NY Times part 1 or 2 article out today about match fixing, that Ibrahim Chaibou ref and that Singapore based Football 4U cartel and how FIFA is ignoring its own internal investigations into the matter. http://www.nytimes.com/2014/06/01/sports/soccer/fixed-matches-cast-shadow-over-world-cup.html?_r=0 Pretty good read.
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Wirth1000 posted:There's also this NY Times part 1 or 2 article out today about match fixing, that Ibrahim Chaibou ref and that Singapore based Football 4U cartel and how FIFA is ignoring its own internal investigations into the matter. There's a very high correlation between FIFA officials who give a poo poo about corruption and the prefix "former"
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The Sunday Times is also not revealing the information all at once, what is appearing at first is perhaps not even close to all they have.
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I think they're deploying the Guardian honeypot journalism approach where FIFA will reply countering it, then the Times releases more docs proving FIFA are awful and talking pork, then FIFA go "Oh, we made a mistake what we meant was..." and then the Times release more docs. This repeats until Sepp makes a final statement clarifying that money is an abstract, nobody has died in Qatar since 1963 and that Britain is a terrorist organisation determined to ruin the work of a globally recognised registered charity
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Crazy Ted posted:The Sunday Times is also not revealing the information all at once, what is appearing at first is perhaps not even close to all they have. Like with any blackmail/extortion scheme, you don't show all your cards all at once. It'll probably take another two or three publications before FIFA pay them whatever it is that they want.
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Funky Koval posted:Like with any blackmail/extortion scheme, you don't show all your cards all at once. It'll probably take another two or three publications before FIFA pay them whatever it is that they want. They literally can't pay the Sunday Times what they want.
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DickEmery posted:They literally can't pay the Sunday Times what they want. Ofcom haven't been that useful in policing such matters in the past.
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DickEmery posted:They literally can't pay the Sunday Times what they want. Surely you can't be this naive.
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Tories told Ofcom let the Sky Bid happen or we'll close you down. Which worked out pretty badly for The tories and NI. Besides, post-Snowden and post-Leveson the political strengths of Ofcom and News International have shifted somewhat. Funky Koval posted:Surely you can't be this naive. Apparently so.
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Fifa vice-president Jim Boyce says he would support a re-vote to find a new host for the Qatar World Cup in 2022 if corruption allegations can be proven. http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/football/27654587 Given that Qatar has already spent a considerable amount on building the stadiums, can FIFA just take it away? What happens to the stadiums?
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hostile apostle posted:Fifa vice-president Jim Boyce says he would support a re-vote to find a new host for the Qatar World Cup in 2022 if corruption allegations can be proven. Used as gladiator arenas to cull the herds of slave labour that will no longer have jobs to go to.
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hostile apostle posted:Fifa vice-president Jim Boyce says he would support a re-vote to find a new host for the Qatar World Cup in 2022 if corruption allegations can be proven. It's a pure PR/internal politics move. There won't be a re-vote also "if the corruption allegations can be proven". Videos of Sepp Blatter bathing in Qatari money and kicking slaves won't be proof enough for FIFA.
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hostile apostle posted:Fifa vice-president Jim Boyce says he would support a re-vote to find a new host for the Qatar World Cup in 2022 if corruption allegations can be proven. Interpol already did this a few years ago and nothing happened. Blatter being totally corrupt is a matter of record, so clearly they've got no intention of doing anything about it.
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hostile apostle posted:Given that Qatar has already spent a considerable amount on building the stadiums, can FIFA just take it away? What happens to the stadiums? They only started building the first one last week.
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Who is going to make a move on FIFA? Potential host countries? lol
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Any re-vote would result in them all voting for Qatar in order to prove that original vote was totally legitimate all along.
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Apparently Blatter wasn't in favor of Qatar, and I think a lot of what's going down is him working to discredit Platini, so he can run unopposed again.
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Was Taters posted:Apparently Blatter wasn't in favor of Qatar, and I think a lot of what's going down is him working to discredit Platini, so he can run unopposed again. *opens envelope* THE WEST INDIES!!!
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Was Taters posted:Apparently Blatter wasn't in favor of Qatar, and I think a lot of what's going down is him working to discredit Platini, so he can run unopposed again. I don't think Platini is dumb enough to run against Blatter. That would be a career ending move most likely, but if he waits until Blatter has joined Lord Xenu up in heaven he's probably got a good shot at it. The whole bin Hamman thing is probably enough to ensure Sepp will run unopposed.
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Smirr posted:I don't think Platini is dumb enough to run against Blatter. That would be a career ending move most likely, but if he waits until Blatter has joined Lord Xenu up in heaven he's probably got a good shot at it. The whole bin Hamman thing is probably enough to ensure Sepp will run unopposed. You're assuming Sepp Blatter can actually die. This is a very dangerous assumption.
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Akileese posted:You're assuming Sepp Blatter can actually die. This is a very dangerous assumption. He seems to make Bernie Ecclestone look like a
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I much prefer Bernie to Blatter. They're both corrupt assholes but Bernie isn't actually that harmful to his sport from the point of view of a fan (imagine what happens to F1 when he dies), whereas Blatter is full-on fisting the deceased corpse of football
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The Mash posted:I much prefer Bernie to Blatter. They're both corrupt assholes but Bernie isn't actually that harmful to his sport from the point of view of a fan (imagine what happens to F1 when he dies), whereas Blatter is full-on fisting the deceased corpse of football I would say on Balance Bernie's influence in formula 1 has been positive and has made the sport better for his involvement in it.
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I am not a violent man but I want to do violent things to Sepp Blatter and his corrupt cronies.
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Byolante posted:I would say on Balance Bernie's influence in formula 1 has been positive and has made the sport better for his involvement in it. Yeah, you don't see people dying while building new tracks.
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Solkanar512 posted:Yeah, you don't see people dying while building new tracks. they most definitely have in bahrain etc. Someone care to explain why this latest round of Fifaleaks is the smoking gun for Qatar 2022? I thought all this bribery was common knowledge already.
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Because this is a proper trail showing exactly who paid who and how much. The times tactic is working beautifully. Qatar released a bunch of statements saying bin hamman had nothing to do with the bid and the times already countered with all their statements at the time saying what a great help he was.
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So basically someone high up in FIFA stood to gain a fuckload if Qatar is exposed. I do not believe these documents would have made the light of day if someone inside FIFA is not benefiting a ridiculous amount from it. I would bet money that the leak came from someone who was going to run for FIFA president and knew they would likely be running against Platini who has always been keen to hold the World Cup in Qatar due to Hmmm, who could that be..
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Blatter didn't want to hold the World Cup in Qatar anyway, apparently. So maybe he's just looking out for whoever bribed him more than the Qataris did.
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http://www.smh.com.au/sport/soccer/...0602-39dww.html Well done FFA
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I'm actually surprised that there was only five million dollars in bribes.
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Crazy Ted posted:I'm actually surprised that there was only five million dollars in bribes. no that's just how much Jack Warner moonwalked out with before protesting loads, as he wasn't bribed enough. Also that man stole a Haiti relief fund.
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vyelkin posted:Blatter didn't want to hold the World Cup in Qatar anyway, apparently. So maybe he's just looking out for whoever bribed him more than the Qataris did. It's like he realized that all the bribe money in the world wouldn't be worth the immense hassle of so transparently giving a nation like Qatar the World Cup.
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Best result for Sepp is if he gets to re-award 2022 no-contest to China.
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The only reason Sepp Blatter wants a re-vote is to achieve the dream of every used car salesman in the world: selling the same thing twice
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No one wants to go through another round of bidding. Give the 2022 world cup to: - a nation with a strong footballing history - a large number of existing high quality football stadiums - a country that's not too hot Send it home World cup 2022 in England. Then make it like eurovision so the country that wins has to host it
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:
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Spangly A posted:Also that man stole a Haiti relief fund.
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Crazy Ted posted:He basically stole everything. He quite literally stole almost all of the money and assets that were supposed to go to the Trinidad and Tobago FA for the better part of 35 years. And was quietly silenced by FIFA after claiming they were too corrupt.
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Loving Africa Chaps posted:No one wants to go through another round of bidding. Good planning, get one last World Cup in England before it never returns again.
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