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How are modern digitally shot movies archived? Is there a vault somewhere with Avatar burned to a bunch of blu-rays?
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marktheando posted:How are modern digitally shot movies archived? Is there a vault somewhere with Avatar burned to a bunch of blu-rays? Digitally shot films can be output into 35mm film but when you register your work with the Library of Congress they just require a DVD.
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Jun 3, 2014 21:05
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As far as unreliable narrators go, Steven Soderbergh's The Informant! plays with a variation of this.
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Jun 3, 2014 23:03
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WastedJoker posted:There's a lot of books with an unreliable narrator but is there such a thing in film? Detour is a famous one.
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Jun 3, 2014 23:20
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therattle posted:Digitally shot films can be output into 35mm film but when you register your work with the Library of Congress they just require a DVD. Some studios have strict 35mm archiving for digital films. Paramount backs up everything. For example, I read an article about Hugo being preserved with full B&W color separations for both eyes, as well as interpositives, reference prints, and duplicate negatives.
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Jun 3, 2014 23:31
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The narrator in Fallen is pretty unreliable.
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Jun 3, 2014 23:50
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The Killing is pretty well known for the disconnect between the narrator and what is actually happening. Kubrick didn't want the narration, but was forced to include it, so he went ahead and made it all messed up. Probably the only time an unreliable narrator was created not for story reasons, but to spite the people that demanded the narration.
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Jun 4, 2014 01:24
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therattle posted:Digitally shot films can be output into 35mm film but when you register your work with the Library of Congress they just require a DVD. Weird. DVDs are so low quality though. Is here a reason for that?
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Jun 4, 2014 01:46
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bows1 posted:Weird. DVDs are so low quality though. Is here a reason for that? Well it's a government run agency so they probably only started even doing DVD like 5 years ago.
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Jun 4, 2014 01:54
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bows1 posted:Weird. DVDs are so low quality though. Is here a reason for that? You send your works to the LoC for the purposes of establishing copyright, not for any archival purposes.
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Jun 4, 2014 01:55
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CharlieFoxtrot posted:You send your works to the LoC for the purposes of establishing copyright, not for any archival purposes. Yeah, the National Film Preservation board archives important films, but too many are made every year for one organization (especially a line item on the Congressional budget) to seriously archive everything. The LoC is about ensuring access. If you are a member of Congress, or one of their staff, you can check out anything in the library, which functionally means you can check out anything ever published in this country.
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Jun 4, 2014 05:33
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Egbert Souse posted:Some studios have strict 35mm archiving for digital films. Paramount backs up everything. For example, I read an article about Hugo being preserved with full B&W color separations for both eyes, as well as interpositives, reference prints, and duplicate negatives. That doesn't surprise me. I would have thought that 35mm was the superior archiving medium. I'd be very reluctant to archive anything in a digital format.
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Jun 4, 2014 07:27
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The absence of SubG is gonna hurt here, but: Give me some off-the-beaten-path Hong Kong crime films (no John Woo, Johnnie To, Ringo Lam, Andrew Lau films need apply).
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Jun 4, 2014 08:20
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Criminal Minded posted:The absence of SubG is gonna hurt here, but:
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Jun 4, 2014 14:24
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Criminal Minded posted:The absence of SubG is gonna hurt here, but: If you wanna go really offbeat, there's The Untold Story, which has been gettin some chatter in the horror thread. Be warned though, it's as much a horror movie as it is a crime drama, and it is extremely grisly.
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Jun 4, 2014 15:41
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WastedJoker posted:There's a lot of books with an unreliable narrator but is there such a thing in film? Schweinhund posted:Adventures of Baron Munchausen And also by Terry Gilliam, Twelve Monkeys. The part where little kid Bruce Willis remembers the face of the bomber wrong.
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Jun 4, 2014 16:40
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It's TV instead of film but the series finale of Leverage is full of unreliable narration.
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Jun 4, 2014 17:05
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Snak posted:And also by Terry Gilliam, Twelve Monkeys. The part where little kid Bruce Willis remembers the face of the bomber wrong. Bomber? Also nice job spoiling a nearly 20 year old movie.
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Jun 4, 2014 21:56
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therattle posted:That doesn't surprise me. I would have thought that 35mm was the superior archiving medium. I'd be very reluctant to archive anything in a digital format. A lot of people don't realize for all it's flammability, nitrate film holds up extremely well when preserved correctly. The nitrate negatives to films like The Wizard of Oz and Gone with the Wind are in fantastic condition. The problem is that the nitrate era was of poor storage and neglect. Eastmancolor negatives from up until the mid 1980s will eventually fade to oblivion regardless of storage.
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Jun 4, 2014 22:25
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david_a posted:Chungking Express and Fallen Angels have crime segments in them, although I wouldn't call them action movies (there are some action scenes in the second, though). Days of Being Wild and As Tears Go By would be the Wong Kar-Wai films that feel more "crime-y" to me. The former even has a gunfight and assassination that kinda comes out of nowhere.
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Jun 4, 2014 23:18
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Re: unreliable narration, I always liked the idea that Life Aquatic was actually the story that a drunk/sad Zissou was telling you many years after the fact (there isn't much to support that but I still like it)
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Jun 5, 2014 09:30
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Isn't there a movie that ends with flashbacks to previously-seen scenes, but now the camera pulls back and you see that someone else was always present in those scenes and the audience just didn't know it? Or am I thinking of a Beck music video? That feels so familiar...
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Jun 5, 2014 16:43
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Rabbit Hill posted:Isn't there a movie that ends with flashbacks to previously-seen scenes, but now the camera pulls back and you see that someone else was always present in those scenes and the audience just didn't know it? Fight Club?
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Jun 5, 2014 16:45
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The 4th season of Arrested Development has a running gag with that, shown over several episodes.
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Jun 5, 2014 17:21
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WastedJoker posted:There's a lot of books with an unreliable narrator but is there such a thing in film? Last years The Lone Ranger.
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Jun 5, 2014 22:18
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Rabbit Hill posted:Isn't there a movie that ends with flashbacks to previously-seen scenes, but now the camera pulls back and you see that someone else was always present in those scenes and the audience just didn't know it? Puss In Boots https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xLQXfmiBnHY scary ghost dog fucked around with this message at 22:46 on Jun 5, 2014 |
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Jun 5, 2014 22:43
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Ok either I had a fever dream or spent my life as a young movie watcher high as balls. On a old VHS recorded copy of rock 4 the ending has Drago winning he basicly knocks the hell out of Rocky, bit when every one is cheering for him he picks rocky up and starts chanting Rocky, then Rocky gives his speech. I can not find anything about this at all, all the alternate ending clips on youtube are just different cuts of the film to make it look like Drago wins. Did I imagine this or what? Its driving me crazy. Edit. It still has the scene of where the Russians slowly start to clap but this time its because rocky refuses to go down. I am trying to find a working VHS player and see if I still have the tape some where. Darth Freddy fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Jun 6, 2014 |
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Jun 6, 2014 05:14
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Darth Freddy posted:Ok either I had a fever dream or spent my life as a young movie watcher high as balls. Pretty sure it was a fever dream. It wouldn't make any sense for Drago to beat Rocky in the end, given the entire theme of the movie (USA is the best! We don't use steroids like those nasty Ruskies! And also we train by running through snow instead of your fancy pants gym slash lab. Cause you can't beat that good ol' American spirit, and also freedom). Rocky would never let a Russian beat him.
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Jun 6, 2014 05:39
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Rabbit Hill posted:Isn't there a movie that ends with flashbacks to previously-seen scenes, but now the camera pulls back and you see that someone else was always present in those scenes and the audience just didn't know it? This is awkward because it's a spoiler for the movie, but the Australian horror film Lake Mungo does this with photographs.
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Jun 6, 2014 08:08
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Hmm, I don't think Fight Club is what I was remembering, and I haven't seen the other films mentioned, although this is hilarious -- It's clearly a much more commonly used device than I was aware of. This is the Beck video that uses it (zoom-outs start around 2:50)-- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aa3rBVb3v4g On a completely different note, is there any word when Only Lovers Left Alive will be either given a wide release in theaters or put out on DVD?
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Jun 6, 2014 14:30
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So, here I am again, with another small question. This time in regards to my game I've been finessing random events after a reviewer thought Brad Pitt was a bizarre casting choice and would have preferred... Brad Pitt. So, I've been working on more events/comments that refer back to earlier movies ("I found [director]'s work reminiscent of [other director]'s work on [film]" for instance). So what I'm looking for, if anyone's willing to suggest some, are interesting comparisons between movies for particular film workers (specifically screenwriters, directors, composers, and actors). It could be anything, a critical note of possible plagiarism, a passing thought, an intended parody, whatever.
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Jun 6, 2014 15:49
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Rabbit Hill posted:Hmm, I don't think Fight Club is what I was remembering, and I haven't seen the other films mentioned, although this is hilarious -- It's not quite the same thing, but are you maybe thinking of The Rules of Attraction? There's the girl who commits suicide and the film reveals how much she's been in the movie before then.
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Jun 6, 2014 15:50
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Rabbit Hill posted:Hmm, I don't think Fight Club is what I was remembering, and I haven't seen the other films mentioned, although this is hilarious -- Did anyone mention Synecdoche, NY?
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Jun 6, 2014 22:21
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Not sure if I should put this in the horror thread or not, but: I've been watching a decent amount of found-footage films of late, and they usually wind up with the people we've watched dying (or ambiguously disposed), generally at the hands of whatever they were out there to look for. Are there any films in the genre that switch that around at all?
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Jun 9, 2014 06:15
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MisterBibs posted:Not sure if I should put this in the horror thread or not, but: The Dirties.
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Jun 9, 2014 15:34
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Restrepo.
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Jun 9, 2014 20:23
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Afflicted.
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Jun 9, 2014 21:41
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When people make movies that have fictional characters and stories based off real people do the movie makers have to pay or get releases from those real people or are they covered by the "any resemblance to real people or events is purely coincidence" by-line at the end of the movie? I'm thinking about people writing movies based off their real life experiences. I'm sure people like cops, teachers, doctors, jail wardens, paramedics etc. have a bunch of awesome stories and have met a bunch of interesting characters. If they were to write and make a movie based on people and events they came across in real life are there any legal issues there?
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Jun 11, 2014 05:52
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xcore posted:When people make movies that have fictional characters and stories based off real people do the movie makers have to pay or get releases from those real people or are they covered by the "any resemblance to real people or events is purely coincidence" by-line at the end of the movie? Generally you can portray real people (or fictionalised versions in a way that is recognisable and/or identifiable) as long as what you portray is true and/or not defamatory. However, depending on how prominently a person features in a film, it's generally advisable to get a release of some sort if possible.
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Along those same lines, I have to imagine that if you are making a bio-pic then you don't have that "This is a work of fiction. Any resemblance to any persons, living or dead..." disclaimer at the end, right? I mean, that kind of defeats the purpose of a biographical movie, doesn't it?
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