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Forgall posted:Pretty sure I remember them saying there won't be any DLC and the game will be a "complete product". So that's a bit disappointing. Yeah what is it with FROM and giving us extra content to play with 
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laplace posted:Hey again King's Field 4. It's nice to see FromSoft throwing another area from you into DkS2. Sunken King's area sure does look like the ancient city and its surroundings. It really does look like King's Field 4. Lots of Dark Souls 2 felt like Shadow Tower Abyss and it really does feel like DS2 was made by the Field's fans at From.
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Jun 4, 2014 19:43
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. Soon enough you'll be able to rerelease Dark Souls as the King's Field 4 remake you always wanted it to be.
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Mans posted:Yeah what is it with FROM and giving us extra content to play with I remember how people were complaining before the game came out that unlocking bonfire teleportation from the start of the game would make the game seem small. I remember laughing pretty hard about that somewhere around hour 30 of the first playthrough.
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Stick Figure Mafia posted:It really does look like King's Field 4. Lots of Dark Souls 2 felt like Shadow Tower Abyss and it really does feel like DS2 was made by the Field's fans at From.
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Jun 4, 2014 19:45
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Dukka posted:You understand that content-wise the game was most likely locked in around the start of the year, right? And if they decided to cut some planned areas and move them into DLC they probably made that decision before then. There's always a pretty huge gap between what gets planned for a game and what actually gets released.
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Jun 4, 2014 19:52
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Annath posted:If I use GeDoSaTo to lock my FPS at 30, will that fix the weapon degradation bug? Yes.
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Jun 4, 2014 19:53
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Dugtrio used POISON... It's super effective!  That looks like a crystal lizard, but with statues on its back instead.
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Jun 4, 2014 20:09
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Robot Hobo posted:Dugtrio used POISON... The newest form of Crystal Gecko assholery. I'm hoping it takes the angle of recovering the crowns of the old kings before Drangleic... they've explicitly said in the game that Vendrick bested 4 Old Ones and used their power to basically form all of Drangleic, and THEN he went and stole the macguffin from the Giants... maybe the 4 Old ones were whoever these people's crowns are? Or maybe each one is another Vendrick, who restarted the cycle and then had their kingdom fall into ruin? That latter idea seems a little too heavy in scope for DLC, though. Also the first thought I had was it's only 3 DLC and they said 4 Old Ones, so I dunno, maybe one of them is just a dragon or something. Who cares, as long as we get more awesome poo poo. Also I want some new Fashion Souls.
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Jun 4, 2014 20:22
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The four old ones he bested were likely the previous incarnations of Seath, Gwyn, Nito, and the Witch of Izalith. One of the DLCs involves the Old Iron King, who is the current incarnation of Gwyn, so that's unlikely.
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Jun 4, 2014 20:31
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Is changing your character name with cheatengine safe? I'd do it in offline mode with steam offline to be safe.
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Jun 4, 2014 20:34
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Zedd posted:Is changing your character name with cheatengine safe? I'd do it in offline mode with steam offline to be safe. There is no punishment for anything at the moment.
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Jun 4, 2014 20:36
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Genocyber posted:One of the DLCs involves the Old Iron King, who is the current incarnation of Gwyn, so that's unlikely. Huh, really? I never picked up on that, where was that implied? I don't remember hearing about Vendrick stealing things from the Giants either, though. Are there any good lore videos out there that explains that sort of backstory, without getting too speculative?
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Jun 4, 2014 20:58
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Beard Yawn posted:New magic is gonna be dustomancy and there will be more sweet robes with stars on them. Nah, new magic will be Diplomancy! Solve your problems through polite and gentle discourse, new emotes, new stone carvings! Well this is probably the only game in history that I'll actually pick up a season pass for, until the sequel anyway.
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Jun 4, 2014 20:59
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The lore in this game is way looser than the previous one, so it's harder to speculate on things that the game doesn't make concrete. And, as with Dark Souls 1, people love to just say poo poo like it's fact without backing it up but I guess that's to be expected.
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Jun 4, 2014 21:00
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Jordbo posted:Huh, really? I never picked up on that, where was that implied? I don't remember hearing about Vendrick stealing things from the Giants either, though. Are there any good lore videos out there that explains that sort of backstory, without getting too speculative? VVV: The fact that you can trade it for Blinding Bolt, which refers to the God of Sun along with the Dragonslayer Greatbow leans to Gwyn a bit more I think. neetengie fucked around with this message at 21:06 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Jun 4, 2014 21:01
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neetengie posted:The whole Gwyn thing? In NG+ when you beat him again. It stands to reason if you get Seath's Soul, the Bed of Chaos soul, and Nito's soul from the other three guys the "King's soul" you get from the Old Iron King is the 4 Kings' soul, not Gwyn's.
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Jun 4, 2014 21:03
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The fact that you can turn it into a Dragonslayer Greatbow or a massive lightning miracle kinda point towards Daddy Sun, though. It's also said by several NPCs that the Giant attack was a counterinvasion, in revenge of Vendrick's earlier conquests across the sea. The most popular interpretation is that he stole the Throne of Want from them.
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Jun 4, 2014 21:05
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Cowcaster posted:It stands to reason if you get Seath's Soul, the Bed of Chaos soul, and Nito's soul from the other three guys the "King's soul" you get from the Old Iron King is the 4 Kings' soul, not Gwyn's. Its the same soul isn't it?
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Cowcaster posted:It stands to reason if you get Seath's Soul, the Bed of Chaos soul, and Nito's soul from the other three guys the "King's soul" you get from the Old Iron King is the 4 Kings' soul, not Gwyn's. It's likely both. The Four Kings were granted a portion of Gwyn's Lord Soul in the first place, and the soul itself is used to make Blinding Bolt or a Dragonslayer Greatbow, both of which are more Gwyn-oriented.
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CJacobs posted:The lore in this game is way looser than the previous one, so it's harder to speculate on things that the game doesn't make concrete. And, as with Dark Souls 1, people love to just say poo poo like it's fact without backing it up but I guess that's to be expected. Or you could take 3 seconds to look up stuff and see the clear connections to Gwyn. The items you get from the Old King's Soul (drops from O.I.K. on NG+) are Blinding Bolt (hmm, a lightning miracle you say?) and the Dragonslayer Greatbow. Here are their descriptions: Blinding Bolt posted:"A miracle that creates a giant soul mass and transforms it into a lightning-spouting orb of light. Dragonslayer Greatbow posted:"A greatbow said to be used to down ancient dragons flying high above the clouds. Extremely large for a mere bow, and more destructible than any ranged weapon imaginable. It doesn't outright say "OLD IRON KING IS GWYN" but gently caress if it isn't hinted at enough.
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The 4 king's soul shards were fragments of gwyn's given to them when he left to deal with the first flame though remember.
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kazil posted:Or you could take 3 seconds to look up stuff and see the clear connections to Gwyn. I could, yes, if I gave a poo poo. As is, the lore in this game is in my opinion murky in an annoying way and not an interesting way.
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Artum posted:The 4 king's soul shards were fragments of gwyn's given to them when he left to deal with the first flame though remember. Maybe, but they were super hosed up on the dark sauce so it's strange they'd still give sun miracles. It's also "Old King Soul" instead of "Old Kings' Soul" or anything implying plurality or being shared. It makes more sense that they'd be sharing the souls of the four figures instrumental in setting up the first Age of Fire, rather than three plus some jack asses that are addicted to humanity.
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fuxxo posted:I hope everything in this DLC is resistant to strike damage. Hahaha, this and lightning.
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CJacobs posted:I could, yes, if I gave a poo poo. As is, the lore in this game is in my opinion murky in an annoying way and not an interesting way. You clearly gave enough of a poo poo to post how bad the lore is while being totally wrong.
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CJacobs posted:I could, yes, if I gave a poo poo. As is, the lore in this game is in my opinion murky in an annoying way and not an interesting way. It's pretty aggravating that to get it for yourself you apparently have to play the entire game 3+ times.
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I wonder if in this DLC they'll reveal why there's concept art and a voice credit to a child version of the Emerald Herald:
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kazil posted:You clearly gave enough of a poo poo to post how bad the lore is while being totally wrong. Oh don't get me wrong, I care enough to complain about it, I just don't care enough to read through a thousand speculative posts to pick the needle in the haystack that has less leaps in logic.
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FutonForensic posted:I wonder if in this DLC they'll reveal why there's concept art and a voice credit to a child version of the Emerald Herald:
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Jordbo posted:Huh, really? I never picked up on that, where was that implied? I don't remember hearing about Vendrick stealing things from the Giants either, though. Are there any good lore videos out there that explains that sort of backstory, without getting too speculative? In NG+ or with ascetic the four great ones, The lost sinner, the old iron king, the rotten and dukes dear freja all drops souls that refer to the 3 Lords from DS1 and Seath. Old Iron king drops old king soul that can be exchanged to a lightning miracle with the text: A miracle that creates a giant soul mass and transforms it into a lightning-spouting orb of light. Crafted in ancient times by the God of Sun, but later forbidden by the same deity. Was it to protect the world from hatred, or sorrow? The lost sinner drops Old witch soul, that refers to the witch of Izalith, the rotten drops old dead ones soul referring to Nito and Freja drops old Paledrakes soul referring to Seath. All of the souls can be traded for weapons/spells that refer to the characters from DS1.
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Is it worth it to get a DS4 controller? How's the support? Currently using a DS2.
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CJacobs posted:Oh don't get me wrong, I care enough to complain about it, I just don't care enough to read through a thousand speculative posts to pick the needle in the haystack that has less leaps in logic. I mean, sure, like DkS1 there's lots of speculation that is absurd, but the 4 great souls being reincarnations of the 4 great souls from DkS1 is pretty solidly grounded.
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Rated PG-34 posted:Is it worth it to get a DS4 controller? How's the support? Currently using a DS2.
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The Smelter Demon was the Iron King's attempt to make a superior blacksteel Mark II model of Vendrick's giant-powered stone Golems. But how did the King spawn a big-rear end balrog after he got served by his own creation? Is the famous "iron" haunted? Did he trip across a Titanite Demon mass grave that eventually was crunched into a massive ore deposit? Where the gently caress did all that lava come from? Ugh, I'm thinking too hard about this.
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FutonForensic posted:I wonder if in this DLC they'll reveal why there's concept art and a voice credit to a child version of the Emerald Herald: God drat I was just looking at that picture and trying to figure out who the hell it was supposed to be. From has said that there would be some time fuckery (not a direct quote) in Dark Souls 2 and this DLC looks to be it.
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Equester posted:In NG+ or with ascetic the four great ones, The lost sinner, the old iron king, the rotten and dukes dear freja all drops souls that refer to the 3 Lords from DS1 and Seath. Old Iron king drops old king soul that can be exchanged to a lightning miracle with the text: Yeah, I had figured that out about the other Old Ones but for some reason I never got that the Iron King gave you Gwyn's soul. I'm dumb! But thanks, everyone, for clearing things up!
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There's something about hearing the title "Dark Souls" in tandem with the term "Season Pass" that makes me throw up a little in my mouth. The term is regularly reserved for poo poo tier titles such as Borderlands, or Watch Dogs. Still, I'd like to think the 24.99 pricetag speaks to speaks to the length and quality of the new content, right? ..........................right????
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I'm just happy PC is getting the content at the same time as 360/PS3.
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So is there any reason to buy a season pass now instead of waiting for the DLC to come out, figure out if it's good, and then buy the DLC/season pass instead?
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What's the season pass thing mean anyway, do you get all dlc released but only for a short while or?
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