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Religious people incorporate scientific fact into their beliefs, news at 11.
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Fried Chicken posted:The "Welcome Back Bowe" ceremony planned by Bowe Bergdahl's hometown has been canceled, citing public safety concerns. Do they not understand that even though he may or may not have left his post he was still a POW for FIVE loving YEARS?
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Jun 4, 2014 22:12
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Flaggy posted:Do they not understand that even though he may or may not have left his post he was still a POW for FIVE loving YEARS? POWs, and MIAs for that matter, are the right-wing culture warriors much more valuable as hero-victims at a distance than as real, flawed humans about whom we occasionally learn uncomfortable things (not presuming that Bergdahl will necessarily prove so to be, though he may). While behind the wire (or in caves or whatever other specific captivity they endure) they serve as sublimely noble resistors of The Enemy's barbarism, redeeming through their suffering any wartime crimes that need excusing. Once they come back, well, the hell with any that fail to live up to expectations. Or, put more succinctly, they really don't give a poo poo.
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Jun 4, 2014 22:16
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Those are what, 10lbs maybe? Cue the GOP attacks on Obama being a colossal wimp unlike ubermensch Putin a real man's man and shoulder lifts grizzly bears by their necks. The US won't ever have a second Civil War, it'll have a first Crusade, lead by a generation raised on creationism and other unconstitutional charter school horseshit. Unless they all die off early on due to their parents never vaccinating them. 
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Jun 4, 2014 22:29
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Evil Fluffy posted:
How does what you just quoted lead you to this conclusion?
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Jun 4, 2014 22:41
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Nintendo Kid posted:How does what you just quoted lead you to this conclusion? It's just a smattering of joke approximations to fit in.
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Jun 4, 2014 22:49
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The US and Iran have reached a 6 month deal on the nuclear program. This is a separate deal from the one that is being negotiated with the P5+1 http://www.businessinsider.com/iran-and-the-us-have-reached-a-bilateral-6-month-agreement-on-irans-nuclear-program-2014-6 Remover how Iran was never going to come to the table, and once they did they would never come to a deal and once they did Obama was a fool because they would never come to another one? Yeah...
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Jun 4, 2014 22:55
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Fried Chicken posted:The US and Iran have reached a 6 month deal on the nuclear program. This is a separate deal from the one that is being negotiated with the P5+1 Well it's a lovely deal you see because... 
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Jun 4, 2014 22:58
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Fried Chicken posted:The US and Iran have reached a 6 month deal on the nuclear program. This is a separate deal from the one that is being negotiated with the P5+1 Cue Oliver North complaining about Obama giving Iran a Nuclear arsenal to destroy America with.
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Jun 4, 2014 22:59
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computer parts posted:3.2% of 63% is a lot higher than 4.6% of 12% so no, they're mostly white (as is this country). I think the point is that the LGBTQ community is much more diverse than people presume, and it's not really reflected in how the community is portrayed or what issues are pushed to the forefront. Allowing LGBTQ people to marry is a no-brainer, but as long as the face of the movement is two middle class, clean cut white dudes (or white women) approximating heteronormative relationship dynamics in a way that won't upset the general public, then further issues that mostly impact poor, minority people in the LGBTQ community are going to be ignored or rationalized as less important. Take "coming out day" for example. Great idea, less than great execution. It's a great thing if you live in a urban location, if you have a supportive family (or at least family that you're not dependent on for money or resources), and know that your livelihood won't be endangered. In poorer, rural communities, it's not so great, because for myriad reasons, LGBTQ people have a lot more to deal with. That's not even going into more complicated issues like people who are in transition. The solution is of course for the country to grow the gently caress up and just accept people (like Hari Kondabolu says, we should be way past tolerance and acceptance at this point and moving into just loving everyone regardless), but the way that the mainstream LGBTQ community operates hurts as many people as it helps sometimes. Mat Cauthon fucked around with this message at 23:13 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Jun 4, 2014 23:08
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Radish posted:I know exactly what all my conservative co-workers and relatives are going to say about an issue before they even bring it up by reading these threads. How long have you been racist against conservatives, the true victims of racism?
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Jun 4, 2014 23:13
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What the hell is going on with that 30-49 age group? Also how the gently caress do 27% of college grads believe God created man in the last 10k years? I'm curious if that number plummets for graduate degree holders.
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Jun 4, 2014 23:20
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Relentlessboredomm posted:What the hell is going on with that 30-49 age group? That part doesn't make sense. None of the educational categories have any number above 27% for those who believe in evolution; it doesn't add up with the other rows.
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Jun 4, 2014 23:25
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Relentlessboredomm posted:What the hell is going on with that 30-49 age group? It's within the margin of error for the 50-64 age range. Mystic_Shadow posted:That part doesn't make sense. None of the educational categories have any number above 27% for those who believe in evolution; it doesn't add up with the other rows. That section is specifically "God exists AND He used Evolution to help create Man". The debate has been incredibly polarized to where you're either religious or you believe evolution occured, so it's not surprising that the number of people that believe both is low.
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Jun 4, 2014 23:27
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Fried Chicken posted:The "Welcome Back Bowe" ceremony planned by Bowe Bergdahl's hometown has been canceled, citing public safety concerns. Spitting on the troops, indeed.
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Jun 4, 2014 23:29
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Relentlessboredomm posted:What the hell is going on with that 30-49 age group? Not everyone is a biology major. Mystic_Shadow posted:That part doesn't make sense. None of the educational categories have any number above 27% for those who believe in evolution; it doesn't add up with the other rows. It means what percent of each educational group believe that Humans evolved but were guided by God. Each row adds up to (roughly) 100%, not the columns.
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Jun 4, 2014 23:31
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computer parts posted:
No what I mean is that in the first column, there no combination of any number of people in the education categories (5th through 8th rows) that will equal a combination of any number of people in the age categories (9th through 12th rows.) I was making a mathematical argument. E: Well now that I look at it maybe a very highly skewed distribution would do it. gently caress it. Don Pigeon fucked around with this message at 23:41 on Jun 4, 2014 |
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Jun 4, 2014 23:31
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Fried Chicken posted:The US and Iran have reached a 6 month deal on the nuclear program. This is a separate deal from the one that is being negotiated with the P5+1 It says that article was posted 45 minutes ago. Whats the over and under on time till Netanyahu complains its American appeasement? On more claims of Obama treason by the right?
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Jun 4, 2014 23:42
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ChipNDip posted:Not everyone is a biology major. And some "college" grads went to Liberty U.
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Jun 4, 2014 23:43
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Can someone direct me to articles/papers that discuss the possible outcomes of a minimum wage increase. Whether it's the $10.10 or $15 increase. I know it has probably been discussed in length in other threads.
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Jun 4, 2014 23:50
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im gay posted:Can someone direct me to articles/papers that discuss the possible outcomes of a minimum wage increase. Whether it's the $10.10 or $15 increase. Try the now closed minimum wage thread http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3574253&perpage=40
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Jun 4, 2014 23:58
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im gay posted:Can someone direct me to articles/papers that discuss the possible outcomes of a minimum wage increase. Whether it's the $10.10 or $15 increase. Let me drop some knowledge on ya.
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Jun 4, 2014 23:59
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Squeal harder, piggies.
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Jun 5, 2014 00:06
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Ah for the good old days before labor laws wrecked the economy...
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Jun 5, 2014 00:09
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Ah yes, non-partisan research outfit, The Heritage Foundation.
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Jun 5, 2014 00:09
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I find it interesting that people who reported "some college" are more likely to think God guided evolution or created us in 7 days than the groups with either no college or with degrees. I wonder if that reflects attending unaccredited Bible colleges, lying about going to college, or is just an anomaly. Also interesting if you follow the link, although the same percentage of people seem to believe in creationism now, more than 10% fewer people actually recognize the term "creationism," or would say they are very familiar with it compared to previous years. That seems like a plus I guess?
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Jun 5, 2014 00:27
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At least put a little effort into poo poo like this good lord.
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Jun 5, 2014 00:44
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Harry Reid will usher in the new Progressive era with his Fair And Balanced Campaign Money Amendment. Ted Cruz will be the best man at my wedding.
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Jun 5, 2014 00:49
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The sound a wet fart makes.
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Jun 5, 2014 01:28
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VitalSigns posted:Ah for the good old days before labor laws wrecked the economy... You rang? 
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Jun 5, 2014 01:48
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"Founded in 1973, The Heritage Foundation is a research and educational institution—a think tank—whose mission is to formulate and promote conservative public policies based on the principles of free enterprise, limited government, individual freedom, traditional American values, and a strong national defense." Yaay I've found it! The completely unbiased source!
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Jun 5, 2014 02:28
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im gay posted:Can someone direct me to articles/papers that discuss the possible outcomes of a minimum wage increase. Whether it's the $10.10 or $15 increase. http://www.cbo.gov/publication/44995 http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog/2014/02/18/congressional-budget-office-report-finds-minimum-wage-lifts-wages-165-million-worker
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Jun 5, 2014 02:45
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hangedman1984 posted:Maybe this will actually blow over and the poor guy won't have to deal with being called a traitor by the time he gets back into the country. el oh el http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/bowe-bergdahl-released/officials-bergdahls-hometown-stop-hate-n121761 quote:Hailey, Idaho, the hometown of freed U.S. soldier Bowe Bergdahl, the joy at his release has turned for some into shock and fear — the fear of picking up the phone.
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Jun 5, 2014 02:55
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im gay posted:Can someone direct me to articles/papers that discuss the possible outcomes of a minimum wage increase. Whether it's the $10.10 or $15 increase. On minimum wage increases and employment changes, or the lack thereof: http://www.nextnewdeal.net/minimum-wage-laws-and-labor-market-what-have-we-learned-card-and-kruegers-book-myth-and-measurement
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Jun 5, 2014 02:58
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Accretionist posted:On minimum wage increases and employment changes, or the lack thereof: http://www.nextnewdeal.net/minimum-wage-laws-and-labor-market-what-have-we-learned-card-and-kruegers-book-myth-and-measurement Was someone just making a joke about unbiased sources?
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Jun 5, 2014 03:03
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vulturesrow posted:Was someone just making a joke about unbiased sources? It lays out its own reasoning.
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Jun 5, 2014 03:05
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Captain_Maclaine posted:POWs, and MIAs for that matter, are the right-wing culture warriors much more valuable as hero-victims at a distance than as real, flawed humans about whom we occasionally learn uncomfortable things (not presuming that Bergdahl will necessarily prove so to be, though he may). While behind the wire (or in caves or whatever other specific captivity they endure) they serve as sublimely noble resistors of The Enemy's barbarism, redeeming through their suffering any wartime crimes that need excusing. Once they come back, well, the hell with any that fail to live up to expectations. This probably sounded cool in your head, but just shut up. This is the most simplistic pseudo-psychology explanation for things. People threatening violence over Bergdahl are loonies. People upset that he hasn't been murdered on TV are loonies. But all evidence points toward him being a deserter. It's very hard to say for a fact that any single death was linked to him, but it's very easy to see that a remote, solitary base that got daily ISR assets due to how remote it was suddenly had zero ISR assets and got nailed by a numerically superior force that would have been trivially easy to detect with even a lovely Shadow up in the air. The Daily Beast article is written by an incredibly intelligent and level-headed person who, despite being an extremely capable Soldier, was never the traditional "meathead" that people think of when they think of light infantry. Those that were actually involved give a poo poo in a very serious way, and not all of them wish anything ill to happen to Bergdahl, but would rather that they finally not have a gag order from the government preventing them from even acknowledging that he wasn't magically teleported out of the base and that he didn't lag behind a patrol that did not exist. edit for article link: http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2014/06/02/we-lost-soldiers-in-the-hunt-for-bergdahl-a-guy-who-walked-off-in-the-dead-of-night.html
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Jun 5, 2014 03:10
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All of Heritage's "studies" seem to have the same problem, which is that they start with a conclusion and ignore any and all confounding factors, with a healthy dose of conveniently forgetting that correlation doesn't imply causation. Basically, designed to give fake legitimacy to GOP politicians who want to cite a "study."
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Jun 5, 2014 03:10
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mlmp08 posted:This probably sounded cool in your head, but just shut up. This is the most simplistic pseudo-psychology explanation for things. No, actually, it's a short summation of more than one established study on how the American right deals with POW/MIA issues post-Vietnam. Mike Allen's Until the Last Man Comes Home: POWs, MIAs, and the Unending War in Vietnam and H. Bruce Franklin's MIA, or, Mythmaking in America being only the two most prominent examples I could name off hand. But feel free to be an idiot about it anyway!
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Jun 5, 2014 03:14
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mlmp08 posted:This probably sounded cool in your head, but just shut up. This is the most simplistic pseudo-psychology explanation for things. Oh well if yet another soldier says he deserted then obviously he deserted and that's the end of that chapter. You're casually dismissing the psychological explanation given and then saying "welp this guy said it happened this way" without realizing its a hodgepodge of hearsay and assumptions. Being in proximity to him doesn't automatically give them credibility, exactly for the reasons people have listed that you dismiss. And again, the point still stands. It doesn't matter what he did, the goal should be his retrieval for either a parade and vacation or put to a court for alleged crimes and adequate punishment.
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