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Lassitude posted:I'm not familiar with them, but I looked at Crash Pad out of curiosity, and the ladies were fairly hairy (legs/armpits included) so I figured that was legitimate lesbian porn if I've ever seen it. Some guys are into hairy chicks though.
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Lassitude posted:I'm not familiar with them, but I looked at Crash Pad out of curiosity, and the ladies were fairly hairy (legs/armpits included) so I figured that was legitimate lesbian porn if I've ever seen it. Hairy (or "natural") is a huge fetish that is actually not over-saturated. I think the reason why more women in the industry don't do it (and why it remains fetish) is because "commercially preferred" standard is bald. I would assume that women who are looking to see porn where the woman is legitimately enjoying herself are aware of the fact that shaving completely will not enhance pleasure. So yeah, I can see it being more of a thing in 'real' lesbian porn, even though there are still lesbians who want to see completely shaved.
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This thread is a lot like listening to people talk about sports: despite not playing it professionally, everyone's an expert. darkpriest - Do you create a product with a specific consumer in mind? Or do you largely pursue your own interests? Does your distributor provide you with any insights into sales demographics of your product? If so, any surprises? If not, think you could get them to do so? Thanks!
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deadlyrhetoric posted:This thread is a lot like listening to people talk about sports: despite not playing it professionally, everyone's an expert. If you watch enough sports, you do learn a thing or two. Also, you don't need to play sports to figure out what does and doesn't work. See: Sabermetrics.
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Kazvall posted:It always seemed to me that there is a huge crossover from lesbian into guy/girl. It also seems(to me) that a huge percentage of straight female talent starts as lesbian and quickly goes to other poo poo. I would imagine it's a hell of a lot easier for a girl to be gay-for-pay, given that lesbian sex doesn't involve things going into potentially unpleasant orifices.
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Xelkelvos posted:If you watch enough sports, you do learn a thing or two. Also, you don't need to play sports to figure out what does and doesn't work. See: Sabermetrics. That seems like a fair point. However: David Grabiner in The Sabermetric Manifesto posted:Bill James defined sabermetrics as "the search for objective knowledge about baseball." Thus, sabermetrics attempts to answer objective questions about baseball, such as "which player on the Red Sox contributed the most to the team's offense?" or "How many home runs will Ken Griffey hit next year?" It cannot deal with the subjective judgments which are also important to the game, such as "Who is your favorite player?" or "That was a great game." There are no doubt very interesting statistics to be learned, like, say, what proportion of female porn viewers are aware of James Deen over Nacho Vidal or the gender and/or orientation breakdown of viewers of lesbian porn. But, this also suggests that Sabermetrics is not equipped to handle discussions attempting to define "lesbian" porn. SALT CURES HAM posted:I would imagine it's a hell of a lot easier for a girl to be gay-for-pay, given that lesbian sex doesn't involve things going into potentially unpleasant orifices. I don't get this statement. Women have hands. And whether or not they're lesbians doesn't mean that they don't use toys for penetration. Also, lesbian femdom. Edit: or did you mean jizz? Women have fluids? knockout fucked around with this message at 20:57 on Jun 5, 2014 |
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deadlyrhetoric posted:Edit: or did you mean jizz? Women have fluids? Did you seriously just ask if women ejaculate?
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Dr. Gitmo Moneyson posted:Did you seriously just ask if women ejaculate? It was a rhetorical question. I don't understand what SALT CURES HAM means by their post. What unpleasant things and into which orifices? Edit: Because it seems to me that any gender and orientation pairing can impart a variety of things into any orifice.
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Jun 5, 2014 21:50
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Probably dicks into butts.
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What I think he's saying is that lesbian sex for straight women is essentially the same as straight sex with no penis so it's natural and normal whereas a guy who is doing gay for pay is doing something that probably less straight men engage in (counting pegging / buttplugs and assplay even though pegging and getting anally hosed by another dude is very different from that).
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I can tell from the last few posts that some of us aren't watching much lesbian porn.
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I think I could get off on man/man porn if it wasn't gay porn, you know? if there were more girls etc
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anyone watched playboys swingtv? girl on girl is so normal and acceptable but dude on dude jus never happens is it a remnant of the patriarchy and homophobia and well, if it suits avg man then that's ok but who cares what women want?
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luscious posted:What I think he's saying is that lesbian sex for straight women is essentially the same as straight sex with no penis so it's natural and normal whereas a guy who is doing gay for pay is doing something that probably less straight men engage in (counting pegging / buttplugs and assplay even though pegging and getting anally hosed by another dude is very different from that). I'm not a straight woman, but I'm going to assume that most heterosexual women find the idea of eating another woman's pussy fairly unpleasant, and remarkably different from having sex with a man. More different, really, than being hosed by a man in the rear end compared to being hosed by a woman in the rear end. Darkpriest, do you know any pornstars who are straight for pay? Mymla fucked around with this message at 00:19 on Jun 6, 2014 |
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Mymla posted:I'm not a straight woman, but I'm going to assume that most heterosexual women find the idea of eating another woman's pussy fairly unpleasant, and remarkably different from having sex with a man. More different, really, than being hosed by a man in the rear end compared to being hosed by a woman in the rear end. I think that you have to consider that from a performing standpoint "work sex" is different than "personal life sex". Performers do things all the time that they might consider to be unpleasant in real life but do while working (hopefully within boundaries). I don't like dirty talk in real life but when I'm on cam I'm a dirty talk pro. I don't like gagging on a dick IRL but while working I'll gag on a toy etc. Further, I consider myself mostly straight (I don't seek out women to have sex with) but have had sex with women while working. I wouldn't even begin to describe it as "fairly unpleasant" even though it's not something I enjoyed enough to pursue outside of work. The point I was trying to make is that lesbian sex is eating pussy, fingering, and maybe strap-on (in porn), and none of those things are really all that different than foreplay / sex with a man - other than the fact that a woman is doing it. Things might be faked (including enjoyment) but there's a really big separation between the two. Ultimately it's up to the performer to decide what she does and doesn't do, and with who, so if an actress finds eating pussy to be repulsive she hopefully won't seek out lesbian work. Performance for work is much different than "what I do and enjoy doing in my personal sex life".
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luscious posted:I think that you have to consider that from a performing standpoint "work sex" is different than "personal life sex". Performers do things all the time that they might consider to be unpleasant in real life but do while working (hopefully within boundaries). I don't like dirty talk in real life but when I'm on cam I'm a dirty talk pro. I don't like gagging on a dick IRL but while working I'll gag on a toy etc. Further, I consider myself mostly straight (I don't seek out women to have sex with) but have had sex with women while working. I wouldn't even begin to describe it as "fairly unpleasant" even though it's not something I enjoyed enough to pursue outside of work. You've got great points here. I'll add a few things I heard at university about it, which may or may not be anything more than overly-intellectualized claptrap, but it at least seems to make sense. There's an element of violence to penetration, you need only look at how many slang terms for the penis relate it to a weapon of some sort ("Pork Sword" et. al.), and the historic association of men and violence (as advanced as we are culturally, we still seem to be grappling with weather or not it's OK for women to be certain kinds of soldiers). This element, it was proposed, makes people more uncomfortable with male homosexual acts than with female homosexual acts. Of course this ignores the fact that some lesbian sex is penetrative; indeed the possibility of a pre-op transsexual person means that it's even possible for lesbian sex to involve an authentic penis; and that not all male homosexual acts involve penetration. Most of that is down to "people like different poo poo", but the public at large tends to have heads filled with pre-concieved notions regarding homosexuality and its practices and practitioners, so there's that. Now I've got a plain old question... I mentioned that a pre-op transsexual, naturally, has male equipment; and since it's not my thing, I usually only see that sort of porn as thumbnail images, movie covers, and the like; I don't go digging into it, but it does seem to mostly be pairings of a man and a transsexual; (I've heard it theorized that many men fancy this sort of thing because, already owning a penis, they know how to operate it, whereas apparently vaginas make us uncomfortable or confused or something, but I *may* have heard that in a Kevin Smith film, so take it at face value) is there much market for porn featuring a natural woman and a pre-op transsexual one? Honestly I don't think I can remember ever seeing anything of the female/female sort, but, again, it's not my thing so I'm by no means any authority on transsexual persons in porn.
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Red_October_7000 posted:You've got great points here. I'll add a few things I heard at university about it, which may or may not be anything more than overly-intellectualized claptrap, but it at least seems to make sense. There's an element of violence to penetration, you need only look at how many slang terms for the penis relate it to a weapon of some sort ("Pork Sword" et. al.), and the historic association of men and violence (as advanced as we are culturally, we still seem to be grappling with weather or not it's OK for women to be certain kinds of soldiers). This element, it was proposed, makes people more uncomfortable with male homosexual acts than with female homosexual acts. Of course this ignores the fact that some lesbian sex is penetrative; indeed the possibility of a pre-op transsexual person means that it's even possible for lesbian sex to involve an authentic penis; and that not all male homosexual acts involve penetration. Most of that is down to "people like different poo poo", but the public at large tends to have heads filled with pre-concieved notions regarding homosexuality and its practices and practitioners, so there's that. Just from porn browsing, there is a market for shemale/female porn. It caters to males, obviously. It's less common than shemale/shemale and shemale/male though.
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luscious posted:shaving completely will not enhance pleasure. How do you figure? As a dude who has to shave his nuts, I actually find sex to be noticeably more pleasurable when I'm properly depilated. You're removing a barrier between the nerve endings in your skin and sexual stimuli.
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Crunk Abortion posted:As a dude who has to shave his nuts OK, I'm going to regret asking this, but why do you, a man who I have to assume does not work in porn, have to shave your nuts?
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Same reason some people feel the "need" to shave their faces. Social pressure, funny looks from co-workers etc
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Or maybe there’s nothing quite like a shorn scrotum? It’s breathtaking, really. I suggest you try it yourself.
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Jun 7, 2014 00:48
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Having really long hair down hair down there is really annoying after having it shaved short for a while.
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Jun 7, 2014 00:49
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Stubble isn't worse? Scratchy balls don't seem like fun.
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Really, it's more the area between the junk and stomach that tends to itch. The junk itself isn't usually itchy.
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I usually trim mine down. Shaving makes it itch like crazy when the hairs start to regrow
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Jun 7, 2014 02:06
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This thread is a lot better when it's just Dark Priest posting.
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I find the balls themselves are good for shaving but everywhere else gets rashy unless I just trim it as short as possible - echinopsis
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Jun 7, 2014 03:19
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Like I'm taking loving grooming advice from goons.
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darkpriest, does the porn industry follow trends? It sounds like maybe it is so diverse that it is just a huge grab-bag of sexual fetishes and niches. If it does have trends, what is the current trend and what do you predict the next trend will be?
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I liked shaving my balls so much I started to shave other mens balls too while I was waiting for my pubes to regrow.
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Woden posted:I watched a doco about Insex a while ago and there was one lady that thought she had to pay to get that poo poo done to her and was willing to do so. If you have weird kinks I can definitely see how they'd be hard to realize in your personal life. As I understand it a lot of insex stuff the people are roped up, the scene is shot for three or four minutes and then they are cut down due to the danger of damage. Which of course pisses some fetish people off. In Ashley Blue's box (which is pretty hosed up to be honest, especially compared to other porn stars) she talks about how Max Hardcore was pretty much the nicest of the old school producers off-set. Could it be he just knows the market.
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How much of the current stuff done is "porno" (aka women with breast augmentation, bleached hair and intense makeup, and muscular dudes with big dicks) vs. art/alt/realistic? Have you noticed shifts in what consumers seem to be asking for since you've been in the industry? Do you think online (which probably makes it way easier to find specific fetishes) and pirated content has lead to shifts in what the industry is producing, content-wise?
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I think the OP disappeared...
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Xelkelvos posted:I think the OP disappeared... Probably off having lots of sex.
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Who writes the scripts for parody pieces? How many takes are done to get the talky bits right?
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This thread went into a slightly different direction. I injured my right eye, scratching the cornea. This lead to a bad infection. To make matters worse the infection then spread to my other eye. I'm extremely photo sensitive. Soon as I am have healed more I will return to answering questions. Hopefully thread can stay somewhat on target. Sorry for the delay.
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I can see the headlines now. "Pink eye epidemic in pornography? New law in Los Angeles requires goggles at every shoot."
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EngineerSean posted:I can see the headlines now. "Pink eye epidemic in pornography? New law in Los Angeles requires goggles at every shoot." Too much porn makes you go blind. Get well soon Darkpriest!
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EngineerSean posted:I can see the headlines now. "Pink eye epidemic in pornography? New law in Los Angeles requires goggles at every shoot." There might be a fetish for girls in goggles having sex (just as there's one for glasses).
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