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astrollinthepork posted:Been using an HJC CL-16 for three seasons now and I'm ready to step it on up. Not quite ready to jump into $300+ territory though. I'm looking at the HJC FG-17 and I'm liking it. Can anyone share their experience? Personal opinion is save your cash for a bit longer and move up into the $350-$500 premium range. The differences in weight and comfort will blow you away.
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Sagebrush posted:
I think it's a little of both. I told her about falling thing alone can kill you. "I wont crash/fall" I sure hope not, but I'm not going to let you risk it damnit. She was probably just pushing my buttons too, because I was getting legitimately frustrated she wouldn't wear a helmet. 
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Jun 6, 2014 03:11
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Great now I want a Bullitt 
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ADINSX posted:Great now I want a Bullitt Do you live in Portland?
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Digital_Jesus posted:Personal opinion is save your cash for a bit longer and move up into the $350-$500 premium range. The differences in weight and comfort will blow you away. Seconding this. The difference between my $150 helmet and my $450 helmet (that I paid $290 for) is huge in terms of comfort/airflow/functionality. Seriously, go to a cyclegear and try on one of their sketchy $50-100 bilt helmets, then go try on a Shoei or Arai if they have them. The liner/build quality/feel alone makes it worth the difference if you can afford it.
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Jun 6, 2014 04:08
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Marxalot posted:Seconding this. The difference between my $150 helmet and my $450 helmet (that I paid $290 for) is huge in terms of comfort/airflow/functionality. Yeah, I still can't get over how bad and lovely even my dad's Nolan Voyage helmet feels. My Shoei Neotec feels so much nicer in just about every way
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Jun 6, 2014 04:19
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Or it could be confirmation bias... I have a $70 Joe Rocket RKT-201 that is the bee's knees. Awesome air flow, some special fabric that wicks away moisture, and a locking face shield. It cuts through the wind at highway speeds fine although I did put a GoPro on it that spoiled the aerodynamics. I guess it retailed for $300 but I got it on close out. There are deals out there. You don't have to spend too much for a comfortable helmet.
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Jun 6, 2014 11:07
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astrollinthepork posted:I'm looking at the HJC FG-17 and I'm liking it. Can anyone share their experience? I have the FG-17 and it's great. Perfect size and shape (for me), and great ventilation. Snell certified, and the price was right. I got the 2013 Hi-Viz/Black graphic, and it gets compliments all the time.
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Jun 6, 2014 13:42
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Schroeder91 posted:I think it's a little of both. I told her about falling thing alone can kill you. "I wont crash/fall" I sure hope not, but I'm not going to let you risk it damnit. She was probably just pushing my buttons too, because I was getting legitimately frustrated she wouldn't wear a helmet. If you look in the crash thread there was a goon (woman I believe) who rode a scooter with a 3/4s or a shortie. If I recall correctly she was sitting at a light when a truck came around the corner and the trucks mirror hit her in the face and nearly killed her. The pictures are probably gone by now, but if someone else finds it (I'm phone posting) that will probably help change her mind. Also remind her that her face is a crumple zone.
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Jun 6, 2014 18:00
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Wow that sounds horrible. Was it a hit and run too?
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Jun 6, 2014 18:56
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Razzled posted:Wow that sounds horrible. Was it a hit and run too? I don't recall. Either way it was one of the best arguments I've ever seen for wearing a full face.
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Jolarix posted:I have the FG-17 and it's great. Perfect size and shape (for me), and great ventilation. Snell certified, and the price was right. I got the 2013 Hi-Viz/Black graphic, and it gets compliments all the time. The ventilation is my main concern as that sucked in the CL-16, but looking back I never thought "drat my head is hot as balls" on even the worst Lucifer inspired hot days. The price is definitely right. A fiberglass shell for around $160 is a steal and is the reason I just can't justify paying twice as much or more. I've yet to find a helmet that fits me from Shoei, Arai, or Suomy anywho.
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Jun 6, 2014 23:50
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I got an HJC clsp when I first started riding. I've thought about upgrading, but so far HJC has fit me best. Also, for the girl on the moped, i got slammed in the face by a parking garage swing arm. I'm glad I was wearing a full face helmet.
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Jun 7, 2014 06:07
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I'm trying to picture how that happened ... did you forget to stop and just roll into it or something?
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Jun 7, 2014 06:32
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Got a pair of the Rev'it Lombard jeans. Do not buy it if you lift (And actually do legs) or overweight. Because those things are loving as tight as Levi 511s. I can barely squeeze my legs into it and the waist is about 3 sizes too big.
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Jun 7, 2014 07:28
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I have really liked HJC helmets over the years. I'm rolling with an IS-16 right now and love it. Good ventilation, integrated sunshield and fits my melon quite well.
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Jun 7, 2014 08:53
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Shimrod posted:I'm trying to picture how that happened ... did you forget to stop and just roll into it or something? It came up like it should and as I started rolling through it just came down inexplicably. I crouched down on the bike, but I am over six feet tall, so it hit me anyway.
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Jun 7, 2014 13:18
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MoraleHazard posted:It came up like it should and as I started rolling through it just came down inexplicably. I crouched down on the bike, but I am over six feet tall, so it hit me anyway. Huh, that's ... really unlucky.
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Jun 7, 2014 13:30
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Kaliber posted:Got a pair of the Rev'it Lombard jeans. Do not buy it if you lift (And actually do legs) or overweight. Because those things are loving as tight as Levi 511s. I can barely squeeze my legs into it and the waist is about 3 sizes too big.
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Jun 7, 2014 14:36
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Razzled posted:Wow that sounds horrible. Was it a hit and run too? Finally posting from an actual computer! zap actionsdower! posted:First, I'm glad all of you are able to come back with these reports!
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Jun 7, 2014 23:45
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Good loving lord a drunk driver no less. Man I would be so insanely pissed if someone did that to my wife! (alas I don't even have a gf  )I'm annoyed at my dad right now, he keeps taking off his chin bar on his nolan whenever he goes out to ride. I wish those pictures still worked so I could show him
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Jun 8, 2014 00:37
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At least he is wearing a helmet. My older brother has given up on wearing a helmet due to the heat. Of course this is after he attached a HUGE ugly windshield on the CB 750 I gave him. There is zero airflow behind that monstrosity. He insists he needs it because riding on the highway without it causes too much pain and he feels like he will get ripped off the bike. I used to get very upset with him. I bought him a really nice helmet but he won't shut the gently caress about how much better he feels without a helmet riding behind a fugly windscreen. I ride 10 times as many miles and twice as fast as him. gently caress it. It is his life.
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Jun 8, 2014 06:37
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Crayvex posted:At least he is wearing a helmet. My older brother has given up on wearing a helmet due to the heat. Of course this is after he attached a HUGE ugly windshield on the CB 750 I gave him. There is zero airflow behind that monstrosity. He insists he needs it because riding on the highway without it causes too much pain and he feels like he will get ripped off the bike. I used to get very upset with him. I bought him a really nice helmet but he won't shut the gently caress about how much better he feels without a helmet riding behind a fugly windscreen. Funny, that. My dad recently bought a Puig windshield for his CTX700 and it's loving horrid. Not only does the wind no longer cool you down but now it blasts you in the loving face and makes all sorts of noise. Riding at 65 on my DRZ with the visor up a couple detents is actually QUIETER than visor closed at 45 on his bike. It's also ugly as poo poo since it's a universal bar clamp mounting system. Luckily he hates it too and is gonna take it off and just put it on whenever he decides to go touring.
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Jun 8, 2014 06:40
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poo poo. My argument is that I'm a "good rider" so all I need is ATGATT for the unforseeable and I won't die. I can't imagine thinking I'm so good I don't need a helmet. And if it's too hot, that's what vents and removable chin curtains are for.
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Jun 8, 2014 06:57
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MoraleHazard posted:I got an HJC clsp when I first started riding. I've thought about upgrading, but so far HJC has fit me best. And that, is why I always go around the gate  That, and I'm a cheap loving bastard...
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Riven posted:poo poo. My argument is that I'm a "good rider" so all I need is ATGATT for the unforseeable and I won't die. I can't imagine thinking I'm so good I don't need a helmet. The monstrosity he installed is even taller than this.  You get literally no airflow behind it. If you are wearing a full face you are sweating. I don't care how good your vents are. I removed the windscreen when I owned the bike and I enjoyed riding it on the highway without any problems. I don't know why my brother is such a pussy and needs it plus the 1970's Goldwing panniers/top box that he rigged onto it. I worked so hard restoring that bike to factory condition. Now it looks like a piece of poo poo. I don't care. It's his bike now. I gave it to him. So he can do whatever. Just like riding without a helmet. He's been riding for 35 years. He knows the risks. He saw my helmet after my accident. It is his decision. I really wish he would wear a god drat helmet. Just take off that stupid windshield and he would be fine.
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Jun 8, 2014 07:29
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hes not even wearing a skull cap? I imagine those can't be that hot, and its better than nothing
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Nope. I bought him one of those too. With the removal of the helmet laws in Michigan he no longer feels obligated to let his comfort suffer. I really need to go on a long weekend ride with him so be can see how having the right gear makes it all so more comfortable. Then again we all know how stubborn people can be. They won't wear hearing protection, leg protection, boots, whatever unless it is their idea. I'm still pissed that it is the weekend riders who put 50 miles a month on their garage queens who successfully lobbied for the helmet laws to be repealed. My brother is a living example of someone who apparently will only wear a helmet if legally obligated to do so.
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I don't understand how it's comfortable riding without a helmet. I've ridden without mine before and loving sucks. I wear a 4x HJC and it's a little loose, the wind will tug it around. Especially when checking my blind spots. I tried a 3x on at the store, and it fits, but it's really tight. I only wore it for like 2 minutes, and it didn't hurt at all, and I'm guessing it will break in and loosen up a bit? Should I get a 3x for my next helmet?
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Jun 8, 2014 16:23
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Schroeder91 posted:I don't understand how it's comfortable riding without a helmet. I've ridden without mine before and loving sucks. Yes they break in over time. Next time you're at the shop, wear it for at least 15-20 minutes. See if any hot spots develop. Try different brands too.
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Jun 8, 2014 16:31
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astrollinthepork posted:Yes they break in over time. Next time you're at the shop, wear it for at least 15-20 minutes. See if any hot spots develop. Try different brands too. I haven't found anything else that fits my huge dome. I tried the biggest stuff cycle gear had and none of it fit. I was pleasantly surprised to find a 3x hjc at my dealer while waiting for my bike to be serviced.
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Schroeder91 posted:I haven't found anything else that fits my huge dome. I tried the biggest stuff cycle gear had and none of it fit. I was pleasantly surprised to find a 3x hjc at my dealer while waiting for my bike to be serviced. But yeah it should be a bit snug at first. Think about the effect of hitting asphalt with a loose helmet. Then your head is hitting the helmet at speed instead of the helmet absorbing your impact.
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My husband has a big melon, too, and he had pretty good luck with a Shoei. It seems to be different with different brands, so your 3x in HJC may be a 2x somewhere else. You might try a Nolan, too. I had an HJC originally and it turned out to not fit me well at all. I went to a Lazer and never looked back. It's just different noggin shapes in a lot of cases, I think.
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Riven posted:But yeah it should be a bit snug at first. Think about the effect of hitting asphalt with a loose helmet. Then your head is hitting the helmet at speed instead of the helmet absorbing your impact. My last helmet was a 4x hjc and when it hit the ground I was fine  Its not really super loose or anything, but I can turn the helmet a bit with ease and checking blind spots the windy will catch it and pull it. The top feels fine I'd say but the cheeks and stuff are loose? A 3x will probably do the trick and when I can afford it I'll pick one. As for Shoei, I can't afford that. I tried a 3x Icon and lol nope not happening.
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Schroeder91 posted:My last helmet was a 4x hjc and when it hit the ground I was fine Maybe try the 3x size with the 4x cheek pads.
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Some (maybe all?) helmets have just two sizes of shells, with differently sized cheek pads for the size breakdowns. For example, my scorpion helmet has a smaller shell for sizes XS-S-M, and a larger shell for sizes L-XL-XXL. The only difference is the cheek pad thickness. If it's the same case for that HJC, swapping cheekpads would just move him up a size.
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Jun 8, 2014 20:17
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Schroeder91 posted:My last helmet was a 4x hjc and when it hit the ground I was fine Having a properly sized helmet does wonders for comfort, when I moved down from a 2X I -thought- fit to a 1X it was amazing.
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Schroeder91 posted:My last helmet was a 4x hjc and when it hit the ground I was fine I too have a huge melon, I wear a 3x bell, 2x AFX (they run huge, get one) and 3x suomy. I can't ever try anything on in store because huge.
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For those of you with properly ventilating jackets: does wearing a backpack ever restrict airflow? I'm beginning to realize that what worked for summer gear in Connecticut is not going to work in Virginia. I also completely understand why my Cycle Gear jacket was only $100. I tried forcing air through the vents and couldn't feel anything. 
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Yes. Even without a backpack though, my back protector blocks most of it from reaching my back anyway.
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