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Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry
Man, gently caress republicans. Yessss, let's prop up loving driving and parking instead of public transit despite rising costs! (Yeah, I know it was because it got 'dropped', but inaction is still an action).

This has kind of hosed me over this year since I was spending ~$180/month on transit

quote:

The IRS Pre-tax limits for the calendar year 2013 are $245 for work-related parking expenses and $245 for public transportation and vanpool expenses.
The IRS Pre-tax limits for the calendar year 2014 are $250 for work-related parking expenses and $130 for public transportation and vanpool expenses.

Xaris fucked around with this message at 16:32 on Jun 5, 2014

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Family Values
Jun 26, 2007


Ro Khanna made it through the primary to face off against Mike Honda in the general election. So it will be a corporatist Dem challenger vs. a ho hum Dem incumbent. This is probably not going to make anybody love jungle primaries. Honda is pretty bland, though I have nothing in particular against him (he used to be my rep until the last redistricting) so I hope he can defend his seat.

Bizarro Watt
May 30, 2010

My responsibility is to follow the Scriptures which call upon us to occupy the land until Jesus returns.
I voted Pete Peterson for SOS. It's not like the position does much.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

Family Values posted:

Honda is pretty bland, though I have nothing in particular against him (he used to be my rep until the last redistricting) so I hope he can defend his seat.

Honda voted for the Amash Amendment, unlike Pelosi up in SF, and he is a member of the Progressive Caucus, which Khanna has pretty much stated he won't be. Khanna slammed Honda's support for the House Progressive Caucus budget this year in a Mercury-News editorial claiming that doing so was insufficiently bipartisan for his liking. Honda also appears to have a strong record on civil rights (having, you know, been a victim of Japanese internment during WWII).

Honda might not be any particular standout politician in the House, but he's a hell lot more reliable as a progressive than Khanna will ever be.

Hog Obituary
Jun 11, 2006
start the day right
Sacbee has a long article about the Bay Bridge construction and quality concerns.

http://www.sacbee.com/static/sinclair/sinclair.jquery/baybridge/index.html

quote:

Caltrans asked an outside expert to assess whether ZPMC [Shanghai Zhenhua Port Machinery Co. Ltd.] could do the job, and Jim Merrill, a senior materials contractor for the bridge project, gave the company a “contingent pass.” He also labeled it “high risk.” Among other problems, ZPMC didn’t have enough qualified welders or inspectors, the audit noted, and routinely welded in the rain, a basic error that often causes defects.

Undeterred, Caltrans signed off.

quote:

Caltrans overrode bridge welding codes and near-universal requirements for new bridge construction when it deemed many cracks in welds produced by ZPMC inconsequential and left them in place to hurry construction along, Caltrans documents show.

quote:

Caltrans diaries also indicated that ZPMC violated the job contract by delivering key documents in Chinese instead of English. ABF lacked sufficient quality-assurance staff to speak directly to its own subcontractor – also a contract violation. “Although I can jump in when misunderstanding between ABF and ZPMC developed,” Caltrans engineer Stanley Ku wrote in a report, “I do think ABF should have a (quality expert) who can speak Mandarin to reduce the ‘misunderstanding’ situation.”

Without actually being involved in the industry, I can't tell how much is "par for the course and Sacbee just as an axe to grind" or if these are "disastrous revelations and the bridge is going to fall down tomorrow"

Blindeye
Sep 22, 2006

I can't believe I kissed you!

Hog Obituary posted:

Sacbee has a long article about the Bay Bridge construction and quality concerns.

http://www.sacbee.com/static/sinclair/sinclair.jquery/baybridge/index.html




Without actually being involved in the industry, I can't tell how much is "par for the course and Sacbee just as an axe to grind" or if these are "disastrous revelations and the bridge is going to fall down tomorrow"

This is bad but not anything new (or catastrophic). For instance the biggest problem with the Northridge Earthquake in 94 for steel buildings was bad welding that was brittle/poorly detailed/poorly inspected that led to some structures being damaged much more than anticipated. So there is a bit of poor field-welding that goes on with good old American labor.

That being said, weld inspections are very important, and good welds are critical for seismic resistance. Brittle welds or flawed welds could give if they're in the energy-dissipating steel shear links in the main tower, for instance, leading to much more damage and potentially a collapse if we're talking apocalyptic levels of shaking. In gravity load systems we probably won't see any kind of acute risks of collapse, unless it is truly pervasive throughout the structure, but as far as I can tell the road deck and steel components are composite (acting together as a system, and the cables shouldn't be affected by the welds as well).

What they'll have to do is a lot of ultrasonic testing or x-rays of weld joints to ensure quality, and perhaps some in-field fixes. It's costly, though I'm not sure how much more costly than having hired a US company to begin with (if at all). The steel fabricator's contract probably gives them liability on flaws and can be forced to eat the repair bill.

So, considering the bridge was designed not simply to not collapse, but to be a "lifeline" with little or no damage after an earthquake, modern codes with generous weld safety factors, and the actual time spent in this compromised condition before the welds are fixed, I'd go with "not terrible, but pretty loving awful for such a high-end job." Definitely still safer than the old span ever was even as is.

I had a discussion with a colleague when I worked in SF about CalTrans during the construction, because they also screwed the pooch on repairing the damaged link in the old span (they made a fix that promptly broke violently and landed in the middle of the roadway miraculously not pancaking any cars). He and others I worked with agreed that CalTrans has had a brain drain because they don't pay particularly well and they don't have a lot of sexy projects, not to mention they're located away from the expensive, nice places in CA for the most part. Sacramento is okay but not everyone wants to be there when they can have a 20k raise and live in the Bay Area an hour away.

Edit: vv That is true of a lot of government jobs, they can only offer work-life balance as an alternative. Still, I like working for the common good (no I don't work for CalTrans).

Blindeye fucked around with this message at 00:24 on Jun 10, 2014

withak
Jan 15, 2003


Fun Shoe
IME Caltrans is where you go to work when you want to have time to spend on other (non-career) stuff.


edit: Of the two people I know who left consulting to work for Caltrans, one did it because he wanted to start some kind of hippy-dippy counseling service on the side and the other did it to spend more time with his kids.

withak fucked around with this message at 03:31 on Jun 10, 2014

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

withak posted:

IME Caltrans is where you go to work when you want to have time to spend on other (non-career) stuff.

The best part about Caltrans' continuous, habitual cost overruns that are almost always due to incompetence is that we the taxpayer are the ones who end up paying for them.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Hog Obituary posted:

Sacbee has a long article about the Bay Bridge construction and quality concerns.

http://www.sacbee.com/static/sinclair/sinclair.jquery/baybridge/index.html




Without actually being involved in the industry, I can't tell how much is "par for the course and Sacbee just as an axe to grind" or if these are "disastrous revelations and the bridge is going to fall down tomorrow"

He also had lots of trips to China and also stayed in 5 star hotels to the tune of $50,000 dollars a year.

Also is Sacramento really that horrible of a place to live?

etalian fucked around with this message at 02:07 on Jun 10, 2014

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
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Laugh and cry

etalian posted:

He also had lots of trips to China and also stayed in 5 star hotels to the tune of $50,000 dollars a year.

Also is Sacramento really that horrible of a place to live?

Honestly, it's not. There are a lot of great bars, food, buildings, cost of living is cheap, lot of great fresh local produce, and Tahoe is a jump away. As far as California cities, I liked living in Davis and Sacramento. But it's rather car centric and gets really loving hot in the summer/fall and I don't like the heat :colbert:

AYC
Mar 9, 2014

Ask me how I smoke weed, watch hentai, everyday and how it's unfair that governments limits my ability to do this. Also ask me why I have to write in green text in order for my posts to stand out.

Xaris posted:

Honestly, it's not. There are a lot of great bars, food, buildings, cost of living is cheap, lot of great fresh local produce, and Tahoe is a jump away. As far as California cities, I liked living in Davis and Sacramento. But it's rather car centric and gets really loving hot in the summer/fall and I don't like the heat :colbert:

Davis? Car-centric? Are you sure that you lived in the same city I do?

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

AYC posted:

Davis? Car-centric? Are you sure that you lived in the same city I do?

No, Sac. Davis owned

Telesphorus
Oct 28, 2013
lol, I heard on NPR that voter turnout was a record breaking low for California. 19% state average. However, Alpine and Sierra counties had 60-65% turnout.

I was driving in 100 degree weather, so maybe I was too distracted and misheard. Climate change: nailing the Central Valley this century.

Telesphorus fucked around with this message at 03:26 on Jun 10, 2014

Minarchist
Mar 5, 2009

by WE B Bourgeois

Telesphorus posted:

lol, I heard on NPR that voter turnout was a record breaking low for California. 19% state average. However, Alpine and Sierra counties had 60-65% turnout.

I was driving in 100 degree weather, so maybe I was too distracted and misheard. Climate change: nailing the Central Valley this century.

I try to stay reasonably tuned in to elections and I barely heard anything about it. Pretty much every candidate phoned in their campaign and whoever was in charge getting the word out to the general public probably didn't even know there was an election going on either. I think a lot of people have flat out given up hope on this state...I know I have. I don't know why I live here, much less in Orange County :smith:

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Xaris posted:

Honestly, it's not. There are a lot of great bars, food, buildings, cost of living is cheap, lot of great fresh local produce, and Tahoe is a jump away. As far as California cities, I liked living in Davis and Sacramento. But it's rather car centric and gets really loving hot in the summer/fall and I don't like the heat :colbert:

texas like heat without texans

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
An update on the controller race:

As the canvassing continues, as of this morning(?) Betty Yee has narrowly taken the lead ahead of Pérez (751,691 to 751,340), so it's possible that the Democrat that gets the nod for the fall will do so by only a few hundred votes. Evans is in a firm fourth for the moment, though it's worth noting that a lot of the counties that have yet to send in a county canvassing update are in strong Republican territory (and no counties have finished their canvassing), so this could change.

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007
The temptation to vote for Orly Taitz out of cackling childishness was overwhelming. I'm sorry, America.

raminasi
Jan 25, 2005

a last drink with no ice

Blindeye posted:

This is bad but not anything new (or catastrophic).

That's reassuring about the engineering, but the meat of the article to me is that an administrator who pushed to select a specific contractor and allegedly threw his weight around in order to accept shoddy work from one of their subcontractors is now working for that contractor.

Xaris
Jul 25, 2006

Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
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Yeah there is sadly a lot of corruption when it comes to government agencies of any sort. See FCC leaders being in bed with Comcast/Verizon and getting jobs there, visa versa. Bay Bridge is going to be alright, it's pretty overengineered but there is still going to be a lot of expensive repairs going on from lowest-bid/corruption type poo poo work but it won't really compromise the safety of the bridge.

Xaris fucked around with this message at 18:52 on Jun 10, 2014

ntan1
Apr 29, 2009

sempai noticed me
so... about them teachers unions.

Zeitgueist
Aug 8, 2003

by Ralp

ntan1 posted:

so... about them teachers unions.

One should keep in mind this is yet another example of Silicon Valley libertarian dipshits ruining the state/country.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

Also, that decision is far from final.

Zeitgueist
Aug 8, 2003

by Ralp

Trabisnikof posted:

Also, that decision is far from final.

I have no doubt it will be appealed, but even if the appeal is successful it's a bad sign.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Xaris posted:

Yeah there is sadly a lot of corruption when it comes to government agencies of any sort. See FCC leaders being in bed with Comcast/Verizon and getting jobs there, visa versa. Bay Bridge is going to be alright, it's pretty overengineered but there is still going to be a lot of expensive repairs going on from lowest-bid/corruption type poo poo work but it won't really compromise the safety of the bridge.

I'd love to be a fly on the wall for the meeting in which Caltrans upper management decided to give the bridge contract to a inexperienced foreign company.

From the Bee article sounds like they though they would save money since it was lower than the local competition due to things such as cheaper materials

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




ntan1 posted:

so... about them teachers unions.

I'm just really curious how the anti-union folks think that schools serving mostly low income students will be able to magically fix themselves when their teachers can be much more easily fired. After all, everyone knows every teacher and their teaching brother is just chomping at the bit to work at schools that are both more dangerous and pay less than those in richer districts. Finding ways to retain them certainly isn't necessary.


Zeitgueist posted:

One should keep in mind this is yet another example of Silicon Valley libertarian dipshits ruining the state/country.

Mark my words: when the culture war bullshit is over and gay marriage and weed are no longer issues people give a poo poo about, a shitload of formerly Obama-loving Silicon Valley types will start voting for and supporting the GOP.

Trabisnikof
Dec 24, 2005

ProperGanderPusher posted:

Mark my words: when the culture war bullshit is over and gay marriage and weed are no longer issues people give a poo poo about, a shitload of formerly Obama-loving Silicon Valley types will start voting for and supporting the GOP.

I found this Nate Silver article about Silicon Valley really compelling for that reason: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...type=blogs&_r=0

Basically, that Silicon Valley is just as conservative as when it elected Reagan, but the Republican party is so conservative now SV appears liberal.

Slobjob Zizek
Jun 20, 2004

Zeitgueist posted:

I have no doubt it will be appealed, but even if the appeal is successful it's a bad sign.

Read the decision, it's pretty short: http://www.scribd.com/doc/229021741/Vergara-v-California

As most of you should know, if any federal law (or state law for some states) is quasi-racist in the US it gets auto-overturned because of the 14th Amendment (and corresponding portions of state constitutions).

The interesting part of this decision is the idea that teacher quality directly affects student outcomes. This is the product of research by economists like Raj Chetty and Tom Kane (expert witnesses here).

Anyway, this is just a lower court decision, but still an interesting result of social science research.

B B
Dec 1, 2005

ProperGanderPusher posted:

I'm just really curious how the anti-union folks think that schools serving mostly low income students will be able to magically fix themselves when their teachers can be much more easily fired. After all, everyone knows every teacher and their teaching brother is just chomping at the bit to work at schools that are both more dangerous and pay less than those in richer districts. Finding ways to retain them certainly isn't necessary.



The picture above is from Si Se Puede Academy, one of the schools in the Rocketship Education charter group. They generally have over a hundred kids in a classroom, sitting in front of computers and monitored by a teacher and a handful of teacher's aids. They've got almost 20 schools in CA already, and they're planning on building 8 in DC over the next year.

So, yeah, they really are trying to replace most teachers with computers.

B B fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jun 11, 2014

Slobjob Zizek
Jun 20, 2004
^^^^^

This is interesting because kids technically have a "right" to computer-based education if they learn more.

etalian
Mar 20, 2006

Trabisnikof posted:

I found this Nate Silver article about Silicon Valley really compelling for that reason: http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.nytime...type=blogs&_r=0

Basically, that Silicon Valley is just as conservative as when it elected Reagan, but the Republican party is so conservative now SV appears liberal.

SV is not so much loony rand businessmen like Palantir's Thiel but center left corporate friendly democrats.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July

etalian posted:

SV is not so much loony rand businessmen like Palantir's Thiel but center left corporate friendly democrats.

See also Ro Khanna's very real chance at knocking off Progressive Caucus member Mike Honda with Republican support thanks to Top-2.

ComradeCosmobot
Dec 4, 2004

USPOL July
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AYC
Mar 9, 2014

Ask me how I smoke weed, watch hentai, everyday and how it's unfair that governments limits my ability to do this. Also ask me why I have to write in green text in order for my posts to stand out.
Still waiting for a Dem or GOP vs. third party two-way race. Even if the third party lost, it'd be nice to have a non-polar option for a change.

ProperGanderPusher
Jan 13, 2012




B B posted:



The picture above is from Si Se Puede Academy, one of the schools in the Rocketship Education charter group. They generally have over a hundred kids in a classroom, sitting in front of computers and monitored by a teacher and a handful of teacher's aids. They've got almost 20 schools in CA already, and they're planning on building 8 in DC over the next year.

So, yeah, they really are trying to replace most teachers with computers.

Well, at lest they're getting them ready for their soul-crushing tech jobs in advance. Plus, there won't be time for social interaction in the future anyway since everyone will be expected to work at least 100 hours a week lest they be accused of not having passion for their job.

Kaal
May 22, 2002

through thousands of posts in D&D over a decade, I now believe I know what I'm talking about. if I post forcefully and confidently, I can convince others that is true. no one sees through my facade.

Slobjob Zizek posted:

^^^^^

This is interesting because kids technically have a "right" to computer-based education if they learn more.

Unfortunately it appears that the technique isn't really working all that well. As much as my sci-fi nerdiness would love the idea of training our children like Star Wars Clone Troopers, real-world solutions are seldom so straightforward. The Rocketship model is essentially the definition of teaching to the test, and it retains all the drawbacks that such implies.

http://www.edweek.org/ew/articles/2014/01/21/19el-rotation.h33.html?tkn=PVRFWzQ2ZGeegLlT7JEhdGx8a0kIBQ9%2Br01Z&cmp=clp-edweek

Kobayashi
Aug 13, 2004

by Nyc_Tattoo

Hog Obituary posted:

Without actually being involved in the industry, I can't tell how much is "par for the course and Sacbee just as an axe to grind" or if these are "disastrous revelations and the bridge is going to fall down tomorrow"

Forum had a really good segment on the Bay Bridge problems earlier. The discussion between the Sacbee columnist and the representative from the oversight board was very well balanced, and the callers weren't raving lunatics for a change. It's one of the few forum segments where I didn't instantly take sides. Both sides made very good arguments.

Spazzle
Jul 5, 2003

Kobayashi posted:

Forum had a really good segment on the Bay Bridge problems earlier. The discussion between the Sacbee columnist and the representative from the oversight board was very well balanced, and the callers weren't raving lunatics for a change. It's one of the few forum segments where I didn't instantly take sides. Both sides made very good arguments.

Forum would be so much better if it dropped the call in bullshit.

Papercut
Aug 24, 2005

Zeitgueist posted:

I have no doubt it will be appealed, but even if the appeal is successful it's a bad sign.

At least we have a Democrat in the White House, right? He's bound to be out there lobbying for our teach...

quote:

For students in California and every other state, equal opportunities for learning must include the equal opportunity to be taught by a great teacher," [Secretary of Education Arne] Duncan said in a statement. "The students who brought this lawsuit are, unfortunately, just nine out of millions of young people in America who are disadvantaged by laws, practices and systems that fail to identify and support our best teachers and match them with our neediest students.

"Today's court decision is a mandate to fix these problems."

:negative:

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

ComradeCosmobot posted:

See also Ro Khanna's very real chance at knocking off Progressive Caucus member Mike Honda with Republican support thanks to Top-2.

Considering Pando's recent takedown of Khanna as a nothing sandwich with a bit of corporate schmear, this is pretty alarming.

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AshB
Sep 16, 2007
My disclaimer is that I don't know much about these issues, so I'm just asking questions out of genuine curiosity here. I don't think the legal reasoning in that opinion is very strong, but if it's upheld, why would it be a bad thing to pass legislation with more objective criteria for firing teachers rather than basing it on seniority? I mean I guess the "objective criteria" they would look at first is test scores, but would it be so bad if they forewent looking at test scores and used other criteria for assessing teachers? Seniority seems pretty arbitrary too.

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