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OldTennisCourt posted:This episode is worth it if only for the idea that Bob Backlund is Lemongrab.
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Few days late I know, but I just listened to Jericho's podcast with AJ Styles. Great interview for reasons already said, but it was hilarious hearing AJ talk about how stupid it is to have a new guy from another company win the world title in his first match from a top homegrown star (this was apparently recorded after his NJPW debut at Invasion Attack but before he won the title).
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Thauros posted:Few days late I know, but I just listened to Jericho's podcast with AJ Styles. Having said that, the exception is a) if the guy coming in is AJ Styles and b) your main event scene is stale as moldy bread. edit: But it is still funny the timing of that. 
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LordPants posted:Having said that, the exception is a) if the guy coming in is AJ Styles and b) your main event scene is stale as moldy bread. I think it was a defensible move and I was impressed with his work last month. It remains to be seen whether or not it'll work out but I can't blame them for trying something different. There's also admittedly a big difference between a situation where you have a clear #2 fed trying to close the gap with a much larger competitor and two feds in different markets that don't really compete. It's still funny.
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The difference is that Joe was being built as an unstoppable monster who was just starting his first run with the title and was (I think) undefeated at the time, Angle was coming from a bigger and more popular competitor, and Angle vs Joe is such an obviously massive match that it makes sense to hold off for at least a few months. Okada is already cemented as a main event player and has won and lost the title several times already, Styles is nowhere near as well known as Okada in Japan, and Okada vs Styles just doesn't have the same buzz about it. It's apples and oranges.
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Not Angle/Joe, RVD/Styles. AJ (probably justifiably) was pissed that they brought in a WWE guy and put him over their homegrown champ on his debut. "It had nothing to do with him (RVD), that's not what it was about, it was about them just giving him the title, giving the title to a guy who just walked in the building. You don't do that." Thauros fucked around with this message at 12:05 on Jun 10, 2014 |
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Thauros posted:Not Angle/Joe, RVD/Styles. I think the clear difference between that and NJPW is that AJ came to NJPW with something to prove, and a desire to do great matches. RVD came to TNA for an easy cheque and to snooze his way through matches. Giving a guy like that a title over a homegrown star who busts his rear end sends a terrible message.
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triplexpac posted:I think the clear difference between that and NJPW is that AJ came to NJPW with something to prove, and a desire to do great matches. Well, I think there's also a key distinction that AJ is coming into New Japan as a terrible villain for the homegrown heroes (since everyone is a babyface against Bullet Club) to eventually overcome, while RVD was the hero who you were supposed to love and have be your new hero.
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Just catching up with some podcasts I've missed and holy poo poo, JR was incredibly loving creepy in his interview with Lita. Jeez. I had to turn it off, dude was seriously flat-out Gooning all over her. Gross.
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Great White Hope posted:Well, I think there's also a key distinction that AJ is coming into New Japan as a terrible villain for the homegrown heroes (since everyone is a babyface against Bullet Club) to eventually overcome, while RVD was the hero who you were supposed to love and have be your new hero. Very true. Basically TNA sucks and is incompetent in every way.
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Great White Hope posted:Well, I think there's also a key distinction that AJ is coming into New Japan as a terrible villain for the homegrown heroes (since everyone is a babyface against Bullet Club) to eventually overcome, while RVD was the hero who you were supposed to love and have be your new hero. That's a good point. I only watched TNA for a couple months in 2012 so tbh I had no clue what the face/heel dynamics were for RVD/Styles.
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The main difference is NJPW doesn't constantly portray itself as worse than its competition.
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MassRafTer posted:The main difference is NJPW doesn't constantly portray itself as worse than its competition. Yeah, in the first match AJ beat Okada with a ton of Bullet Club interference, and the announcers screaming AJ STYLES GO HOME!! GO HOME!!! If TNA portrayed RVD as some arrogant outsider who could beat their homegrown guy but only with a bunch of backup and sneaky tactics, that would be a different story than what they actually did.
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birdlaw posted:Just catching up with some podcasts I've missed and holy poo poo, JR was incredibly loving creepy in his interview with Lita. Jeez. I had to turn it off, dude was seriously flat-out Gooning all over her. Gross. The Michelle Beadle one starts almost as bad until she basically wrangles control from him.
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triplexpac posted:If TNA portrayed RVD as some arrogant outsider who could beat their homegrown guy but only with a bunch of backup and sneaky tactics, that would be a different story than what they actually did. Would it have been much better? This is TNA and what you're describing sounds a fair bit like the interminable Aces and 8s. Even if they copied the Bullet Club note-for-note, it'd still be worse because they are worse at writing and producing wrestling.
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flashy_mcflash posted:Would it have been much better? This is TNA and what you're describing sounds a fair bit like the interminable Aces and 8s. Even if they copied the Bullet Club note-for-note, it'd still be worse because they are worse at writing and producing wrestling. Well, at least you could somewhat explain it, rather than "TNA brought in a WWE guy and beat AJ for no reason" But yeah it would have sucked cause it's TNA
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Vince Russo doesn't really watch TV but he loves reality shows because they're "real drama" this explains everything.
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power rankings assuming not some dumb interview with a musician or something Austin > Jericho > Observer shows with Meltzer > Bauer & Pollock > other MLW shows > Cheap Heat > Art of Wrestling > all those other F4W/LAW shows > JR
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yea ok posted:f4w kaz show is good I'm listening to it right now and every question Alvarez asks is "man TNA is badly run, your thoughts?"
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epitasis posted:power rankings assuming not some dumb interview with a musician or something Put Sin Limite between Austin and Jericho and I'd co sign that.
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I guess also the Alvarez shows with Lance Storm should be higher than the rest of the F4W shows
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Dr. Lucha shows are top tier podcasts. I love that man.
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Today's Austin podcast was a total throwback to the early days with guys diving in head first to tales of addiction and withdrawal and stuff. I had no idea Justin Credible was into that stuff that deep.
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Dunbar posted:Today's Austin podcast was a total throwback to the early days with guys diving in head first to tales of addiction and withdrawal and stuff. I had no idea Justin Credible was into that stuff that deep. Yeah, when I saw Justin Credible was the guest I was ready to give it a miss, but I found his open talk about how he got addicted and how deep down the rabbithole he went pretty fascinating.
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epitasis posted:power rankings assuming not some dumb interview with a musician or something
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achillesforever6 posted:But where do the PSPcasts rank? In the toilet.
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MassRafTer posted:In the toilet. Where the pisscast likes it!
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Dunbar posted:Today's Austin podcast was a total throwback to the early days with guys diving in head first to tales of addiction and withdrawal and stuff. I had no idea Justin Credible was into that stuff that deep. Jerusalem posted:Yeah, when I saw Justin Credible was the guest I was ready to give it a miss, but I found his open talk about how he got addicted and how deep down the rabbithole he went pretty fascinating. Offhand question, did y'all listen to when he was on Art of Wrestling? I feel like he talked quite a bit about his addiction issues then too, but I could be wrong.
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BlueArmyMan posted:Offhand question, did y'all listen to when he was on Art of Wrestling? Nope, I can barely keep up with Austin, Jericho and JR's podcasts as it is. So this was all new stuff to me.
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ch3cooh posted:Where the pisscast likes it! You'd think, but we actually prefer the Enclosed Pool Area.
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^^^ Chris Benoit reference (he killed his wife and son)
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epitasis posted:^^^ Chris Benoit reference (he killed his wife and son) ALLEGEDLY.
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kevin sullivan did it and bought the bra
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This is stuff the podcast up north doesn't want you to hear about. But the Pisscast brings the hot scoops!
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NienNunb posted:This is stuff the podcast up north doesn't want you to hear about. But the Pisscast brings the hot scoops! Episode 45: Lyte Funky Ones The only wrestling podcast with the stones to cover Impact Wrestling and also Raw, NJPW, and bad music  http://www.mediafire.com/download/4vly6fdsjidb864/045+Wrestlehut+pisscast.mp3
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Who is Dave talking to about whats going to happen at the PPVs for WWE? on the show with Bryan he was talking about getting put on the spot about what he would do, and then being told what was going to happen. Does he actually consult for WWE?
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JoshVanValkenburg posted:Who is Dave talking to about whats going to happen at the PPVs for WWE? on the show with Bryan he was talking about getting put on the spot about what he would do, and then being told what was going to happen. Does he actually consult for WWE? No but he gets told what's going to happen a lot of the time with the pre-tense that he not say what's going to happen. So when asked to predict or fantasy book, he feels silly when he knows the plan.
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