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SocketSeven
Dec 5, 2012

tuna posted:



Now I'm curious, how much charge do Volts and priuses get in a typical 30-40 minute supermarket stay?

A 30 amp public charging station rings in at 7Kw according to Tesla. 30 minutes of charging on one of them will get you 10 miles.

A 40 amp High voltage charging station is a 10Kw affair, and a 30 minute charge will send you 14 miles.

A tesla SuperCharger uses 120Kw, and a 30 minute charge sends you 170 miles. :getin:

Tesla appears to be assuming an 85Kw load for these milage figures.

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Vindolanda
Feb 13, 2012

It's just like him too, y'know?

GoodbyeTurtles posted:

Had my first proper emergency stop / threshold breaking exercise today.

Driver #1 is in the left lane, needs to be in the middle lane, signals and waits to merge over while crawling along at 5mph.
(This happens all the time on this road, people getting into the wrong lane and wanting to merge over at the last second)
Driver #2 in the middle lane stops dead from 30 without checking his mirrors to allow the guy to merge in front of him.
I'm sat in the middle lane about 5 car lengths back doing 30 behind a forester which notices the guy in front isn't moving and slams on the brakes, screeching to a halt inches from driver #2's rear end.
I drop it into 2nd and manage to stop just before the forester, not without having to swerve a little into the right lane though.

I don't care if you think you're being polite, you don't just stop in the middle of the drat road. :argh:

I once had to emergency stop a Land Rover defender, loaded to the gills, because someone pulled out from a side road in front of me without looking or slowing at all. Didn't stall, which was good because there was an artic lorry just behind me barrelling up, I'm proud to say that I got gravel spray off all four wheels when I set off and I'd challenge anyone to drag race between 0 and 15 mph.

Not Wolverine
Jul 1, 2007

tuna posted:

Maybe, but it doesnt really seem very fair to anyone else. Other spots they eradicated were 10-minute parking spots so people could run in and pick up some eggs and get out, without parking much further away.

Now I'm curious, how much charge do Volts and priuses get in a typical 30-40 minute supermarket stay?

10min parking seems pretty stupid, does anyone actually enforce it? Unless they have an employee standing out there with a stop watch and a tow truck on speed dial that is just begging to be abused. I also hate "expectant mother parking" because that is even more difficult to enforce, and last I checked walking is actually kinda good for pregnant women.

tuna
Jul 17, 2003

Crotch Fruit posted:

10min parking seems pretty stupid, does anyone actually enforce it? Unless they have an employee standing out there with a stop watch and a tow truck on speed dial that is just begging to be abused. I also hate "expectant mother parking" because that is even more difficult to enforce, and last I checked walking is actually kinda good for pregnant women.

I doubt it was enforced but I saw people using it as intended more often than not, usually with someone bored waiting in the car for them.

Now that they don't exist, I've seen more cases of people who think putting their car in "park" is the same as "parking", near some spots but not in them, while their passenger runs in to get something. It's really loving annoying blocking an entire "lane" in a car park aisle. Usually crazy people with disgusting rape vans I don't want to get into a shouting match with.

Murphys Law
Nov 1, 2005
This happened just this morning.

I was sitting in line in the left turn lane waiting to get out of my neighborhood. The light turns green and as the line of cars waiting to turn left begins to move a mustang with racing stripes darts up the right turn lane passing everybody and turns left in front of the second car in line. As I pull onto the road I can see him moving from one lane to another passing everybody before disappearing into the distance as traffic stops at the next light. A mile up the road I pull onto the highway and not half a mile later who do I pass on the side of the highway because he got pulled over? It bought a smile to my face.

xergm
Sep 8, 2009

The Moon is for Sissies!

GoodbyeTurtles posted:

I don't care if you think you're being polite, you don't just stop in the middle of the drat road. :argh:

Or pick the right drat lane in the first place. :argh:

It always amazes me during commutes when I see people getting into the wrong lane. I have to assume that 90% of the people during rush hour are going to/from work (i.e. the same route they take every single day), so how is it that they haven't figured out which lanes take them to the place they need to go.

Then there's the people who, after passing 20 cars lined up in an exit only lane, decide to cut in at the last moment, because their exit caught them by surprise. It's not like the exit moves from day to day, it's the same place, same traffic, every single day. Learn where you need to be.

They could also be entitled assholes, but Hanlon's razor and all, I usually assume these kind of people are stupid unless they prove to be assholes.

The Midniter
Jul 9, 2001

Across the street from where I work, they tore down several vacant office buildings and are building a shitload of high-rise luxury apartments. It is absolutely ruining the roads due to all the heavy construction equipment. Also, it's like the wild west - construction workers' cars using the road as a parking lot up and down the entire thing, entire lanes blocked off. Obviously the police are turning a blind eye to all of this while the construction goes on which I don't really care about, it'd be impossible for them to keep the road completely legitimately free and clear until the construction is finished for as many workers as there are.

Well, this morning on my way into work, right in front of my office building, I see a guy parked in some sort of massive construction vehicle. It had some weird apparatus on the back but also was carrying building materials - I have no idea what it was for. Anyway, the reason the truck was stopped was because he had been pulled over. The cop hadn't exited his vehicle yet, but it was absolutely delicious to see the "You gotta be fuckin' kidding me" look on the driver's face. He must have done something very obviously illegal to get pulled over in that area.

I Might Be Adam
Jun 12, 2007

Skip the Waves, Syncopate
Forwards Backwards

Do cops qualify as "these are the people you share a road with"?

On my commute into work every morning, it's not uncommon to see a police officer sitting on the side of the highway looking for speeders, but there is one cop, that has an all white SS Camaro with white lettering on the side of the car that says POLICE and zero external emergency lights. One day, I saw this white camaro tailgating me in the passing lane, so when I cleared the vehicle next to me to pass, I got over to let this guy go on. When the camaro got next to me, it was the cop. He flicked his siren for a sec while pacing me and then dropped a gear and took off at a high rate of speed. I thought, wow, what a dick. I cleared the lane for faster traffic AND for an emergency vehicle.

This morning, there was a cluster gently caress of cars pacing each other, cars in the passing lane refusing to get over, and semis all over the place. I'm doing about 68 into 60 in the left middle lane of a 4 lane interstate. I see a white camaro making some "too close for comfort" lane changes and I'm thinking, "wow, look at this jerk". He then proceeds to get into my lane in front of me and then into the left passing lane just in time for a line of faster moving vehicles to have to drastically slow down to 60. I get next to him and it's the camaro cop again. This time, he sort of paces me about half a car length ahead and then punches it to go up to about 75 from 60. Then he proceeds to drop back to 60 and creates a wall of cars that refuse to pass him in any lane which causes a lot of people tailgaiting and refusing to let others move through traffic or change lanes. This goes on for about 10 mins before I finally get over and exit the freeway.

I hate that cop.

SocketSeven
Dec 5, 2012
Get yourself a dash cam and start recording yourself before he pulls you over and murders you.

He's clearly already got you on his radar.

Geoj
May 28, 2008

BITTER POOR PERSON
Had some fuckwit almost cause me to total out my brand-new (<200 miles on the odometer) company car last night. I'm in the middle lane of a three-lane highway (US224 @ I-77), some teenage girl driving an early-2000s Kia in the left lane suddenly realizes she's about to miss the 77N exit ramp just as we're passing it so she slams on her brakes and cuts across all three lanes without a turn signal right in front of me. It was pretty much textbook Family Guy asian driver except the driver wasn't Asian.

At least now I know my car's braking abilites....

ChickenOfTomorrow
Nov 11, 2012

god damn it, you've got to be kind

SocketSeven posted:

Get yourself a dash cam and start recording yourself before he pulls you over and murders you.

He's clearly already got you on his radar.

nah, they use LiDAR now

thebigcow
Jan 3, 2001

Bully!
Cover your car in SuperSpeeders.com stickers and race him.

slurry_curry
Nov 26, 2003
<3mini-moni+animu^_^

thebigcow posted:

Cover your car in SuperSpeeders.com stickers and race him.

In my younger days, a friend and I might have tried to start a race with a new Corvette z06 on I5 in seattle. We raced up along side him, looked over to see a state trooper if full uniform look over at us, wave and then start laughing as my buddy slammed on his brakes. A couple days later I saw the same corvette light someone up on the highway. WSP has some strange cars you would not expect.

And yes, when I was younger I was one of the people that you shared the road with. I have calmed down with age.

Krakkles
May 5, 2003

I Might Be Adam posted:

Do cops qualify as "these are the people you share a road with"?
....
The (major arterial) freeway I travel home on most often has this problem - the station where all the CHP bikes for North LA county park for the night is at the north end of it. So every night there are cop bikes, going 55, in the left lane, literally stopping traffic behind them, despite the 65/70 limit (depending on where you are).

When I see the occasional bike cop roaring along at 90, I smile a little, but they're by far the exception.

Mr Tall
May 6, 2009

InitialDave posted:


... but gently caress "parent and child" spots. You haven't got broken legs, you can stroll another fifty yards like the rest of us, and if junior makes this annoying for you, tough.


Distance isn't the problem - it's almost impossible to get the kid out of the car in a normal parking spot because they're narrow. Normally when I have the baby with me I park as far away from the shop entrance as possible because gently caress other people opening their doors into my car, and my legs work.

If they put the parent and child spaces at the far end of the car park, I'd be totally happy. I have the space I need to get the baby seat out, and lazy fucks won't take the spaces because they're not right outside the entrance.

SyHopeful
Jun 24, 2007
May an IDF soldier mistakenly gun down my own parents and face no repercussions i'd totally be cool with it cuz accidents are unavoidable in a low-intensity conflict, man

Negromancer posted:

In my younger days, a friend and I might have tried to start a race with a new Corvette z06 on I5 in seattle. We raced up along side him, looked over to see a state trooper if full uniform look over at us, wave and then start laughing as my buddy slammed on his brakes. A couple days later I saw the same corvette light someone up on the highway. WSP has some strange cars you would not expect.

And yes, when I was younger I was one of the people that you shared the road with. I have calmed down with age.

They had an unmarked Legacy GT back in the late 2000s in Clark County, too. I also heard rumors of a yellow WRX but never saw it myself.

kastein
Aug 31, 2011

Moderator at http://www.ridgelineownersclub.com/forums/and soon to be mod of AI. MAKE AI GREAT AGAIN. Motronic for VP.
I was hauling rear end (average speed on i95 is 75, even though it's a 55 zone) and looked over to see a middle aged woman driving a black Charger with red racing stripes. Thought nothing of it... her lane slowed down more than mine so I ended up ahead. Got in the left lane, passed a few people, was about to get over for my exit and I see this charger behind me again.

Then the lights came on :stare:

Fortunately she didn't really care since I hadn't done anything truly masshole-like and was just warning me to slow down. That thing was well disguised, I didn't see a single light on it until they came on and never would have expected it to be a cop car, and I normally smell undercovers a mile away.

That was back in December.

Today I was towing a trailer with about 1000lbs of crap on it... coming up a four leaf clover onto another highway. I know the area, and traffic was moving pretty good on the interstate I was getting on so I was down a gear and fully on it to make sure I wouldn't make someone slam on their brakes. Then some self absorbed fuckwit realizes they're about to miss their exit, cuts RIGHT in front of me (like, maybe 6 feet between our bumpers) and slams on their brakes to avoid hitting the truck that's slowing down for the exit. Somehow, I avoided wrecking it, but they definitely got the horn and middle finger. To which they waved their arms like "what!!! I had to take my exit!!! :downs:"... yeah fuckhead, that's why you pull in BEHIND the guy who's trying to accelerate and can't stop worth a drat because he's towing. Idiot.

MikeyTsi
Jan 11, 2009


It's like the cover of "Faith +1", but with cars.

Seat Safety Switch
May 27, 2008

MY RELIGION IS THE SMALL BLOCK V8 AND COMMANDMENTS ONE THROUGH TEN ARE NEVER LIFT.

Pillbug

SyHopeful posted:

They had an unmarked Legacy GT back in the late 2000s in Clark County, too. I also heard rumors of a yellow WRX but never saw it myself.

From my time with a WRX I'm pretty sure the police would get done for entrapment, or never get to where they were going due to having to write a guy up for street racing at every single light.

Hell, they'd probably have guys revving their engines at them while they're on the side of the road ticketing the first guy.

SyHopeful
Jun 24, 2007
May an IDF soldier mistakenly gun down my own parents and face no repercussions i'd totally be cool with it cuz accidents are unavoidable in a low-intensity conflict, man

Seat Safety Switch posted:

Hell, they'd probably have guys revving their engines at them while they're on the side of the road ticketing the first guy.

I'm pretty sure that idiot bait was their primary reason for having it. WSP also has a lot of slicked out Tahoes, and man they look hot with those police model steelies.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Mr Tall posted:

Distance isn't the problem - it's almost impossible to get the kid out of the car in a normal parking spot because they're narrow. Normally when I have the baby with me I park as far away from the shop entrance as possible because gently caress other people opening their doors into my car, and my legs work.

If they put the parent and child spaces at the far end of the car park, I'd be totally happy. I have the space I need to get the baby seat out, and lazy fucks won't take the spaces because they're not right outside the entrance.

I fully support this, 2 kids and a pushchair and shopping is a nightmare in my car, my wife's car is much wider so I'm sure people would appreciate not having door dings by us using the parent and child spaces, no need to put them anywhere special as long as your car park has pedestrian walkways.

Theris
Oct 9, 2007

kastein posted:

I was hauling rear end (average speed on i95 is 75, even though it's a 55 zone) and looked over to see a middle aged woman driving a black Charger with red racing stripes. Thought nothing of it... her lane slowed down more than mine so I ended up ahead. Got in the left lane, passed a few people, was about to get over for my exit and I see this charger behind me again.

Then the lights came on :stare:

Fortunately she didn't really care since I hadn't done anything truly masshole-like and was just warning me to slow down. That thing was well disguised, I didn't see a single light on it until they came on and never would have expected it to be a cop car, and I normally smell undercovers a mile away.

Indiana State Police have a ton of totally stealthed Chargers. (and a handful of Challengers) It's impossible to see the interior lights through the back window at any safe following distance, and there's no extra external antennas. Some of them don't even have the police specific license plates that the local police departments' unmarked cars always have.

It means you have to slow down any time you see a current gen Charger, and there's a lot of those around here. :smith:

Terrible Robot
Jul 2, 2010

FRIED CHICKEN
Slippery Tilde
A lot of departments around me run a grab-bag of Vics, Chargers, Interceptors (SHO and Explorer variety), and Accords, and I have seen stealth versions of all of them. Some were so good I couldn't even tell until I was right next to them or they were already behind me. Makes the commute interesting, since all of those are very common civvy cars here as well.

I know Albemarle county has a couple weird cars as well, like an Escort ZX2 and a minivan of some type.

Dr.Smasher
Nov 27, 2002

Cyberpunk 1987

Terrible Robot posted:

A lot of departments around me run a grab-bag of Vics, Chargers, Interceptors (SHO and Explorer variety), and Accords, and I have seen stealth versions of all of them. Some were so good I couldn't even tell until I was right next to them or they were already behind me. Makes the commute interesting, since all of those are very common civvy cars here as well.

I know Albemarle county has a couple weird cars as well, like an Escort ZX2 and a minivan of some type.

I don't know if they still do this, but the Vegas metro PD will hit up the rental companies for all kinds of different cars. There was a month where you had to worry about random unmarked Ford Explorers, and in my time living in Vegas I did occasionally see people getting lit up by a Nissan Maxima.

Disgruntled Bovine
Jul 5, 2010

Cakefool posted:

I fully support this, 2 kids and a pushchair and shopping is a nightmare in my car, my wife's car is much wider so I'm sure people would appreciate not having door dings by us using the parent and child spaces, no need to put them anywhere special as long as your car park has pedestrian walkways.

I realize this probably wasn't your intent, but this comes off as if you're saying "Well, if I don't get special parking spaces I guess I'll just have to ding people's doors! I can't be held responsible."

Probably not the best attitude in a forum where murdering someone because they scratched your paint would most likely be considered justified.

solarNativity
Nov 11, 2012

SyHopeful posted:

I had to begrudgingly admire the great back-in job.

Yeah, it'd probably take me a couple tries to match that in my truck, which is a compact by virtue of having the short bed regardless of the SuperCrew cab.

RillAkBea
Oct 11, 2008

SyHopeful posted:

They had an unmarked Legacy GT back in the late 2000s in Clark County, too. I also heard rumors of a yellow WRX but never saw it myself.

One of the local patrol cars here is a Legacy GT. I have no idea why though as there isn't anywhere you can even get up to high speed hijinks in this tiny Japanese town. They mostly just spend their days pulling over farmers who think red lights don't apply to them, despite the fact that they drive the infamous kei trucks of certain death.

nsaP
May 4, 2004

alright?

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

I realize this probably wasn't your intent, but this comes off as if you're saying "Well, if I don't get special parking spaces I guess I'll just have to ding people's doors! I can't be held responsible."

Probably not the best attitude in a forum where murdering someone because they scratched your paint would most likely be considered justified.

Uh, his attitude was surprisingly cordial considering the post they were talking about was "gently caress you, tough". If anything I think the posters here would be in favor of handing out some retribution door dings for the grave infraction of parking too closely.

Solkanar512
Dec 28, 2006

by the sex ghost
Curtsy of the Onion:

SFH1989
Apr 23, 2007

SyHopeful posted:

I had to begrudgingly admire the great back-in job.

Yeah, it's parked better than most actual compacts I normally see in spots like that.

I need to take a picture of my gym's parking lot. It has to be, consistently, the worst parking I see.


Seat Safety Switch posted:

From my time with a WRX I'm pretty sure the police would get done for entrapment, or never get to where they were going due to having to write a guy up for street racing at every single light.

Hell, they'd probably have guys revving their engines at them while they're on the side of the road ticketing the first guy.

I was riding in rcman's new WRX the other night and some random guy in a Civic SI revved at us. First time I can remember that happening to a car I was in. So this is what I have to look forward to if I get one for myself?

FogHelmut
Dec 18, 2003

The easy way to spot undercover cops is to see the Chargers/Explorers with blacked out front windows, since that is illegal here and they ticket regularly for it, almost no one tints their front windows beyond the lightest shade.






SFH1989 posted:

Yeah, it's parked better than most actual compacts I normally see in spots like that.

I need to take a picture of my gym's parking lot. It has to be, consistently, the worst parking I see.


I was riding in rcman's new WRX the other night and some random guy in a Civic SI revved at us. First time I can remember that happening to a car I was in. So this is what I have to look forward to if I get one for myself?

Idiots rev at my base model Impreza. Dude, I have 148 hp, I'm not going anywhere.

slurry_curry
Nov 26, 2003
<3mini-moni+animu^_^

FogHelmut posted:

The easy way to spot undercover cops is to see the Chargers/Explorers with blacked out front windows, since that is illegal here and they ticket regularly for it, almost no one tints their front windows beyond the lightest shade.


Another good giveaway, at least in Washington, is look at their plates. Not that the unmarked cars run license plates that are exempt or anything, but they will not have a license plate frame, except for maybe a plain black one. If the car has a dealer plate frame, its not a cop.

That and the steel wheels. You can only get those black with small hubcap on the police models, but that only works on the police specific packages(Ford Interceptor/Tahoe/etc)

rscott
Dec 10, 2009
The only way to tell the stealth chargers apart from a civvie around here is the spotlight on the driver's door, they have alloy rims out here. Only time I got ganked by one is when I passed one at the head of a train of cars in the left lane going about ~65 when I was doing about 80 :v:

you ate my cat
Jul 1, 2007

FogHelmut posted:

Idiots rev at my base model Impreza. Dude, I have 148 hp, I'm not going anywhere.

I get that a lot in mine, too. One girl in a crappy Mustang was so determined to race me that she didn't notice the cop, in a fully marked car, directly behind her at the light. Light went green, she stood on the gas, and I pulled away like a non-moron and watched the cop pull her over. Enjoy your street racing ticket!

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

I realize this probably wasn't your intent, but this comes off as if you're saying "Well, if I don't get special parking spaces I guess I'll just have to ding people's doors! I can't be held responsible."
He didn't say that, or particularly give much reason to strawman him as having said that. He pointed out the benefit of parent and child spaces being wider, but said he had no need for them to be right at the storefront, which is fair enough. I take on board what he's saying about the wider spaces having a benefit for others as well, which I hadn't considered. Would prefer all the spaces to be a bit wider, but that's not going to happen, because it cuts into the number that will fit.

quote:

Probably not the best attitude in a forum where murdering someone because they scratched your paint would most likely be considered justified.
Actually, that's mainly just me, it seems, everyone else is far more laid back. And even I'm not quite that bad. My attitude is simply one of having a real problem with vandalism, and not caring what happens to people who do it, but that doesn't mean I'm going to go on a rampage based on the sanctity of my car's bodywork. I appresciate the internet is not the place for nuanced anything, but I make a point about being quite specific about this. Accidents happen, and if the damage is covered, I'm fine with that. If someone deliberately damages my stuff, I'm sensible enough to seek legal recourse rather than going off on one, but if someone else's reaction to vandalism is to administer a drat good beating, I have no issues at all with that.

I'll stick with the same thing I've asked previously about this: If someone vandalises your car, then a week later the same person vandalises the car of a guy down the street, who responds by giving them a good going over, exactly how bad would you feel about it?

nsaP posted:

Uh, his attitude was surprisingly cordial considering the post they were talking about was "gently caress you, tough".
Not gently caress Cakeool. I like Cakefool. gently caress entitled yummy mummy pretend-4x4 drivers who think anyone else using a parent and child space is as bad as using a disabled space. gently caress them a lot.

Queen_Combat
Jan 15, 2011
I've got the Beetle set up so that I can cruise on the highway pretty well (lower ratio 4th gear), but it doesn't matter if I'm going 75 and everyone else is going 65; the moment I come to pass anybody in the right lane they speed up, because there's obviously no way an ACVW could be passing them. I'm used to it after just two weeks of owning the thing, but that doesn't make it any less retarded. I guarantee that some of the people I go to pass have been cruising at 65 or 70 for miles carefree, but something deep down (I'd say "small dick syndrome," but ladies do it too) keeps them from allowing me to pass their slow asses.



E: VVVVV

Absolutely. I can see when I'm either slowly waking somebody up, or when they're in "mentally dead cruisin'"-zone and they're just speed matching the next bumper. Those happen all of the time. I can't tell you how many times I'd come off work at midnight and set my cruise to 65 on the Loop 202 in Phoenix and I'd pass somebody doing 55, they'd slowly just speed up and match my bumper. That's them not being aware, and happens all of the time. In the Beetle it's almost an aggressive "Oh gently caress no."

Queen_Combat fucked around with this message at 19:14 on Jun 13, 2014

InitialDave
Jun 14, 2007

I Want To Believe.
It's childish, but I think you're probably right. I would say you're just waking them up and making them realise they should go faster, but I bet in context you're not the only one passing them.

SocketSeven
Dec 5, 2012
I'm reminded of Clarkson talking about Sabine Schmitt driving a Ford Transit around the nurburgring.

"Oh ho! Look at me out on the nurburgring in my Ferrari! Hangon a minute, wots that? I've Just been overtaken by a VAN! Being driven by a GIRL!!!!"

Nobody thinks twice when a car that "should" be faster passes them.

cakesmith handyman
Jul 22, 2007

Pip-Pip old chap! Last one in is a rotten egg what what.

Disgruntled Bovine posted:

I realize this probably wasn't your intent, but this comes off as if you're saying "Well, if I don't get special parking spaces I guess I'll just have to ding people's doors! I can't be held responsible."

Probably not the best attitude in a forum where murdering someone because they scratched your paint would most likely be considered justified.

Absolutely not my intent, no. I get angry as gently caress when my car gets dinged and the one time I know I dinged someone's car (at work) I found who owned it through site security and went to see them, they couldn't care less but were pleased someone cared enough. It's just difficult to hold a car door not quite open fully but wide enough to get in, get a baby out of a pushchair, get them in safely and strap them in without hitting the next door. Simultaneously supervise another older kid getting in the other door, plus as load of shopping and a pushchair. Wider spaces are a godsend, I don't care where they are as long as they're safe to get to.

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kastein
Aug 31, 2011

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SocketSeven posted:

I'm reminded of Clarkson talking about Sabine Schmitt driving a Ford Transit around the nurburgring.

"Oh ho! Look at me out on the nurburgring in my Ferrari! Hangon a minute, wots that? I've Just been overtaken by a VAN! Being driven by a GIRL!!!!"

Nobody thinks twice when a car that "should" be faster passes them.

This is why it endlessly amuses me when some passive aggressive fuckstain who has either not let me past or not let me get away once I passed them goes the same way through an entrance ramp or something and realizes I'm either still right behind them, or walking way from them, as they come out of the corner.

It's even more fun when it's a two lane ramp (like the one from i290/395 onto i90 west) so I can do both, one after the other :v:

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