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caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
I rather have waiters giving letting me settle the bill in my terms than having them shove the bill into my face and kicking me out

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elwood
Mar 28, 2001

by Smythe

NitroSpazzz posted:

When eating at a restaurant with waiter service is there any reason why it takes a long time to get your bill? I seat myself, order the best I can and usually have fast service with the food arriving quickly. But once I'm done and my plate has been taken I sit there for what seems like an unusually long time waiting on my bill to arrive. Should I be asking for my bill when they take the last plate or something?

You ask for it. Waiters in germany are not really in your face like in the US and they also usually don't try to shove you out the door the minute you are done. If you want to sit at your table for another hour after you are done eating, usually no one will push you to leave.

Badly Jester
Apr 9, 2010


Bitches!
Yeah, it really is just a different mentality. I'd rather have to flag down a waiter when I have a request than have loving Sandy interrupt me every five minutes while I'm in the middle of a conversation.

Lots of places have lovely service, true, but this one is by design because a lot of people prefer it.

NitroSpazzz
Dec 9, 2006

You don't need style when you've got strength!


Service hasn't been that bad really I just wasn't aware you're supposed to request your check. I don't mind it though, most of the time I'm not in a hurry. I'll just get in the habit of ordering another beer and asking for my bill once I'm finished eating.

Thanks for clearing that up.

ZeitGeits
Jun 20, 2006
Too much time....

StrangeAeon posted:

Some details, then:

1. I do not currently speak German (my local college doesn't offer classes in it, blah) but I have a few years to locate a means of learning it and make an attempt at fluency.

1. The Ärztliche / Operative Abrechnung position sounds like an analogue to the US's Medical Office Assistant, which requires a full degree, and covers more clerical and social duties. I'm a Biller/Coder, and while an Office Assistant does have to know coding, the reason they're separate jobs in the US is that, because our health care system runs on HMO and is generally handled by larger organizations these days (as opposed to private practices), the billing and coding duties often get outsourced to companies that specifically exist to stand as a translating middle man between the medical setting and the insurance companies. I don't know if any other countries tend to encourage this divide at all.

Still, even if not, it's not a total loss. Billing and Coding in English gets outsourced online as well, for people who wish to work from home, and the glory of the internet means that timezone differences have less say in what manner of online work I could get. Even if that fails, I have a history (though no degree) in English Education, so with a bit of practice and some German-approved certifications I could make a passable English tutor.

3. My disability is a blood disorder, which sounds complicated, but for the most part we can consider it similar to living with a fatigue disorder. I tend to only work 20 or so hours a week, because if I overextend myself my blood starts dying and I need a transfusion. Even so, from the sounds of it a part-time job could cover most insurance expenses, and help out with other bills.

Your coding and billing experience might not translate as well as you might think. The healthcare industry is highly regulated in Germany, and billing practices differ from American ones. For example, there are at least 4 different systems in place to bill procedures. There are multiple catalogs for procedures you can document in every system. Some procedures need an algorithm entirely of their own to determine out if they apply (Pflegekomplexpauschen). On the other hand, diagnostic procedures, medication and use of medical equipment are not billed separately. Instead for inpatients they are assumed to be included in the flat charge determined by the base rate of the diagnosis related group multiplied by an amount specific to each state.

I suggest you start researching the system beforehand.

A LOVELY LAD
Feb 8, 2006

Hey man, wanna hear a secret?



College Slice
I'm hopefully going to have a holiday to germany soon, funds depending.

Current plan is Fly to Hamburg then go to Rugen island via Lubeck for the theme park and possibly Rostock because its on the way and my boss worked there for a while. Probabaly stay in Rugen for a few days then make our way back. I'll hopefully be able to drive by this time but is it worth me driving it instead of taking a train?

Does it sound like a good enough plan for stuff to do, hoping the weather will be good in Rugen so we can go on the beach and so on, would late August be a good enough time?

voodoo dog
Jun 6, 2001

Gun Saliva

A LOVELY LAD posted:

I'm hopefully going to have a holiday to germany soon, funds depending.

Current plan is Fly to Hamburg then go to Rugen island via Lubeck for the theme park and possibly Rostock because its on the way and my boss worked there for a while. Probabaly stay in Rugen for a few days then make our way back. I'll hopefully be able to drive by this time but is it worth me driving it instead of taking a train?

Does it sound like a good enough plan for stuff to do, hoping the weather will be good in Rugen so we can go on the beach and so on, would late August be a good enough time?
Sounds like you are satisfied with enjoying the scenery, beaches and stuff, in that case late August sounds pretty much perfect. I think most school holidays are over by then so it's not going to be too crowded and the weather should still be good. I'd definitely drive if you have the time to not take the Autobahn, there are a lot of nice streets to drive especially in the east.

And for regular sightseeing, Hamburg and Lübeck offer a lot, I guess. Not so sure about Rostock. ;)

Anyway, if you do come to Hamburg, feel free to PM me if you'd like to grab a beer or want someone to show you around a bit!

Badly Jester
Apr 9, 2010


Bitches!

Wuntvor posted:

And for regular sightseeing, Hamburg and Lübeck offer a lot, I guess. Not so sure about Rostock. ;)

Yeah, I agree. I can't think of anything that really makes Rostock worthwhile, especially if you've already been to Lübeck (since Hansestädte have a somewhat similar feel to them).

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


Lübeck has marzipan, Rostock doesn't. That's really all you need to make a decision.

Badly Jester
Apr 9, 2010


Bitches!
Way back in the day, I had a teacher who temped at Niederegger during her university days. She wouldn't touch the stuff, and when asked why, she said she'd seen a rat in the factory.

No loving mammal on this planet is going to scare me away from my Niederegger.

Hollow Talk
Feb 2, 2014

Badly Jester posted:

Way back in the day, I had a teacher who temped at Niederegger during her university days. She wouldn't touch the stuff, and when asked why, she said she'd seen a rat in the factory.

No loving mammal on this planet is going to scare me away from my Niederegger.

What if the rats are what makes it so good? :ohdear:

citybeatnik
Mar 1, 2013

You Are All
WEIRDOS




You know, the talk a little earlier in the thread regarding how working knowledge of insurance billing codes may or may not translate well from the American system to the German system made me wonder... how much, if any, might paralegal skills here in the States be useful in Germany?

elwood
Mar 28, 2001

by Smythe

citybeatnik posted:

... how much, if any, might paralegal skills here in the States be useful in Germany?

Those skill won't be useful at all. Lawyers who have passed the bar in the US can not practice law in germany and have to either pass the german state exam or work in advisory roles in companies, so a us paralegal would be in competition with us trained lawyers for those few company jobs that are available. That is not even talking about the fact, that both legal systems are way to different anyway. Even if you could get a job at a german lawfirm as a paralegal (Rechtsanwaltsgehilfe), it would be a step down from what US paralegals usually do and pay is often so low that it's hardly worth it.

elwood fucked around with this message at 14:38 on Jun 14, 2014

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS
Isn't the skillset of a US paralegal somewhere in between Rechtsanwaltsfachangestellten and Rechtsfachwirten/Wirtschaftsjuristen? They might, might have a shot at getting one of the entry positions at the Big 4 instead of working as a ReNo.

Who am I kidding, there are no jobs. :smith:

elwood
Mar 28, 2001

by Smythe

Randler posted:

Isn't the skillset of a US paralegal somewhere in between Rechtsanwaltsfachangestellten and Rechtsfachwirten/Wirtschaftsjuristen? They might, might have a shot at getting one of the entry positions at the Big 4 instead of working as a ReNo.

Who am I kidding, there are no jobs. :smith:

Yes, it is, but why would they hire a paralegal when they can get a us lawyer instead?

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

elwood posted:

Yes, it is, but why would they hire a paralegal when they can get a us lawyer instead?

I'm not talking about the legal departments or spin-offs. I mean the entry-level positions for Advisory and Consulting, which are open to people without legal education and are usually staffed by business graduates. It's still a long shot, but it's probably the closest you can get to a legal-related job as a non-EU non-lawyer.

A LOVELY LAD
Feb 8, 2006

Hey man, wanna hear a secret?



College Slice

Wuntvor posted:

Sounds like you are satisfied with enjoying the scenery, beaches and stuff, in that case late August sounds pretty much perfect. I think most school holidays are over by then so it's not going to be too crowded and the weather should still be good. I'd definitely drive if you have the time to not take the Autobahn, there are a lot of nice streets to drive especially in the east.

And for regular sightseeing, Hamburg and Lübeck offer a lot, I guess. Not so sure about Rostock. ;)

Anyway, if you do come to Hamburg, feel free to PM me if you'd like to grab a beer or want someone to show you around a bit!

Cheers for that, yeah will see if a beer is on the cards if I get over there.

Drone posted:

Lübeck has marzipan, Rostock doesn't. That's really all you need to make a decision.

Marzipan is the devil's dickcheese :colbert:

Im guessing I can cross Rostock off the list though as it doesn't sound like its worth seeing!

ubergnu
Jun 7, 2002

Failed gothic
Ok, check this poo poo out: I'm, gonna go to Hamburg next week, and I'll get a whole day off while there! I've skimmed this thread and I think (hope) I know enough not to make a total asshat of myself. But there's something I didn't see, how are the liquor stores over there? Can you buy wine/whiskey in stores or are they regulated?

elbkaida
Jan 13, 2008
Look!
There are no liquor stores, you can buy stuff anywhere. The bigger problem is finding something that is open late or on Sunday but there's always the gas station as last resort (should not be a problem in Hamburg really).

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
You can buy alcohol in every grocery store/super market, but of course there are specialised stores, too.

ubergnu
Jun 7, 2002

Failed gothic
Sweet. I'm tremendously jealous of you guys. Thanks for the answers!

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


ubergnu posted:

Sweet. I'm tremendously jealous of you guys. Thanks for the answers!

You can buy liquor straight from the supermarket and then walk out onto the sidewalk and drink it in public. The joys of a free country. :clint:

You shouldn't though, drinking liquor in public is still a little trashy, even if totally legal. Beer's fine though.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
You can also buy limitless large cans of beer at any highway rest stop!

Man I'm finally here in Berlin, finishing my European trip. Drove from Stuttgart and stayed at Dresden and Nuremburg.

Any goons want to meet for dinner ? I'm probably busy with expo work but would be cool to hangout with Berlin goons again this year.

And yesterday tiergarten was insane with the world cup

elbkaida
Jan 13, 2008
Look!

Drone posted:

You can buy liquor straight from the supermarket and then walk out onto the sidewalk and drink it in public. The joys of a free country. :clint:

You shouldn't though, drinking liquor in public is still a little trashy, even if totally legal. Beer's fine though.

I think the trashiness comes more from what you are doing, less the drink. Chilling with some mates in the park in the evening, drink whatever. But sitting in the tram at 10 in the morning and pulling out a bottle to take a big gulp is a total no-go.

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer

elbkaida posted:

I think the trashiness comes more from what you are doing, less the drink. Chilling with some mates in the park in the evening, drink whatever. But sitting in the tram at 10 in the morning and pulling out a bottle to take a big gulp is a total no-go.

Yeah I agree. You can be a well dressed business man slamming shots in the morning like mad men and you won't be trashy.

A hobo in rags drinking lafite doesn't make him a noble gentlemen.

Anyways, try out new drinks, have fun and stay safe

caberham
Mar 18, 2009

by Smythe
Grimey Drawer
Oh and I love diesels

bignose
Mar 21, 2006
fucked up

ubergnu posted:

Ok, check this poo poo out: I'm, gonna go to Hamburg next week, and I'll get a whole day off while there! I've skimmed this thread and I think (hope) I know enough not to make a total asshat of myself. But there's something I didn't see, how are the liquor stores over there? Can you buy wine/whiskey in stores or are they regulated?

On a Sunday you can check Kiosks, Trinkhallen or Spätis to get your beer fix. :)

Zwille
Aug 18, 2006

* For the Ghost Who Walks Funny
The supermarket in the Wandelhallen at Hauptbahnhof opposite the McDonald's upstairs there (not the drugstore) is open every day and has a good selection (chilled, too).

eviljelly
Aug 29, 2004

So how come some supermarkets in some cities are allowed to be open on Sundays? Are they only the ones inside a Hbf? All Bf?

Zwille
Aug 18, 2006

* For the Ghost Who Walks Funny
I figure it's a Reisebedarf thing when they sell travel items. Some shops were known to just pay the fine because they rake in enough money anyway. Berlin has a 7-days-supermarket in nearly every big train station (Friedrichstraße, Hauptbahnhof, Ostbahnhof, Südkreuz, Zoo), but I don't know about other cities or supermarkets outside of Bahnhof areas. Some Kiosks/Spätis also border into supermarket territory with regards to what they offer, and those are open 7 days anyway.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

I always figured the chicks hanging around the food court in Berlin main station gathering signatures for "charity" had about a 120% chance of being a scam, but now they're actually becoming actively annoying to boot. And what the poo poo is the deal with that bloke dressed (and I hesitate to use the word) in literal rags that was hanging around the main entrance and toilets every time I was at the station in the past four months? Like no poo poo there will be a good number of homeless in any metropolitan area and a good portion of those will not have their poo poo together but :cmon:

Drone
Aug 22, 2003

Incredible machine
:smug:


My Lovely Horse posted:

I always figured the chicks hanging around the food court in Berlin main station gathering signatures for "charity" had about a 120% chance of being a scam, but now they're actually becoming actively annoying to boot. And what the poo poo is the deal with that bloke dressed (and I hesitate to use the word) in literal rags that was hanging around the main entrance and toilets every time I was at the station in the past four months? Like no poo poo there will be a good number of homeless in any metropolitan area and a good portion of those will not have their poo poo together but :cmon:

I used to commute from Berlin Hauptbahnhof twice weekly and don't think I ever once got panhandled by homeless there. The worst I've ever seen in the train station itself were those guys who take old (but presumably still valid) S/U-Bahn tickets from the trash and try to resell them. Those guys don't know how to take no for an answer.

Frankfurt Central, on the other hand, is filled with signature-seekers, BüSo, and beggars.

Mahlertov Cocktail
Mar 1, 2010

I ate your Mahler avatar! Hahahaha!

My Lovely Horse posted:

I always figured the chicks hanging around the food court in Berlin main station gathering signatures for "charity" had about a 120% chance of being a scam, but now they're actually becoming actively annoying to boot. And what the poo poo is the deal with that bloke dressed (and I hesitate to use the word) in literal rags that was hanging around the main entrance and toilets every time I was at the station in the past four months? Like no poo poo there will be a good number of homeless in any metropolitan area and a good portion of those will not have their poo poo together but :cmon:

Yeah I have no idea. I've been in Berlin for almost 5 months now and I've seen that dude all the time too. And the panhandlers who pose as deaf people are the loving worst.

On the other hand, there is a very well-dressed panhandler who patrols between the Hauptbahnhof and Paul-Löbe-Haus who pretends he just needs a few euros for his train home. Much more harmless than taking advantage of sympathy for disabled people.

My Lovely Horse
Aug 21, 2010

Maybe it is the well-dressed guy and that's just his day off.

I dunno, I figure it's either an act or he's legit the most mentally unwell of Berlin's homeless population, and in the latter case surely he can't keep that poo poo up for close to half a year without the mission or the police noticing and thinking, you know, maybe someone should get that guy some help, or trousers. It's not like he's particularly inconspicuous.

Then again considering the panhandlers have been around for a lot longer, who knows.

Zwille
Aug 18, 2006

* For the Ghost Who Walks Funny
I sorta got a reverse question: I'm going to California in August and I want to buy a point-and-shoot camera over there (Canon S120 or something similar) but it turns out they're priced the same on Amazon.de (€330 vs. $450, which is roughly the same). I checked out Best Buy's website too and it quotes the same price as Amazon.com. Are cameras much cheaper in brick & mortar stores in the US or should I just buy the one I need from Amazon.de?

For Apple stuff, everything is roughly 30% cheaper, but other electronics seem to be on par between the US and Germany. Does anyone know more with regards to this?

Landsknecht
Oct 27, 2009
I hope this person is trolling, nobody can be so unfunny and dumb

Zwille posted:

I sorta got a reverse question: I'm going to California in August and I want to buy a point-and-shoot camera over there (Canon S120 or something similar) but it turns out they're priced the same on Amazon.de (€330 vs. $450, which is roughly the same). I checked out Best Buy's website too and it quotes the same price as Amazon.com. Are cameras much cheaper in brick & mortar stores in the US or should I just buy the one I need from Amazon.de?

For Apple stuff, everything is roughly 30% cheaper, but other electronics seem to be on par between the US and Germany. Does anyone know more with regards to this?

I think the apple price difference is mostly due to :apple: instead of some actual logic like taxes, as apple has a hardon for setting the same price in euros as they do in dollars. You can sometimes get free ipods/small discounts with apple by showing them anything that might prove you're student or faculty (education discount); a friend of mine managed to do it with his swedish gov. ID card, and I'm sure making a fake matrikulationsschein would probably have the same benefit.

Look around for sales on stuff. Many big-box stores offer regular sales which are like 30-40% off on a lot of things, if you can hit up one of these (amazon does the same too) then you'll find a more reasonable price.

Total Confusion
Oct 9, 2004
What does the new minimum wage law mean for interns?

My company hires a lot of "interns" who are right out of college for €650 a month on 6-12 month contracts and 40 hours a week. I would love if the new law meant we had to pay them a living wage, but I can't find a good source on if the internship exceptions apply in my company's case or not.

Zwille posted:

Does anyone know more with regards to this?

My experience has been that most all electronics are cheaper in the US. In the past couple of years, I've gotten an iPhone, a Nexus 5, a laptop, a SSD and random poo poo like HDMI cables and a Bluetooth dongle all for cheaper from amazon.com/in the US than in Germany.

Total Confusion fucked around with this message at 17:48 on Jul 7, 2014

Honj Steak
May 31, 2013

Hi there.
http://www.zeit.de/2014/26/praktikanten-mindestlohn-bezahlung

Mandatory internships don't need to be paid, all other interns have to be paid minimum wage.

Randler
Jan 3, 2013

ACER ET VEHEMENS BONAVIS

Gold and a Pager posted:

What does the new minimum wage law mean for interns?

My company hires a lot of "interns" who are right out of college for €650 a month on 6-12 month contracts and 40 hours a week. I would love if the new law meant we had to pay them a living wage, but I can't find a good source on if the internship exceptions apply in my company's case or not.

This should help: http://www.bundesrat.de/SharedDocs/drucksachen/2014/0101-0200/147-14.pdf?__blob=publicationFile&v=1 (Starting at page 7 out of 77 (PDF pages))

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Zwille
Aug 18, 2006

* For the Ghost Who Walks Funny
From what I gathered here anything past 6 weeks requires minimum wage. They can skirt around this by only taking unpaid interns and/or only taking Pflichtpraktikanten, i.e. internships required by your college. It seems to be an older article so stuff might've changed.

Landsknecht posted:

Look around for sales on stuff. Many big-box stores offer regular sales which are like 30-40% off on a lot of things, if you can hit up one of these (amazon does the same too) then you'll find a more reasonable price.

I guess I'll just do that. Thanks! I don't need anything from Apple right now which is kind of a bummer, actually. :v:

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