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Winson_Paine posted:Pleading to me to JUST QUIT is the weirdest of all possible ploys.
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Fast Luck posted:That's primarily directed at Majuju, who apparently has offered to quit. But it goes for anyone that doesn't want to play. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Lburl8lMxI
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Jun 13, 2014 23:20
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Skinty McEdger posted:Prop. I mean this sincerely. Silence is worse than malice. Calling Byers the only actual player remaining, besides Majuju, is loving low and you know it.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:23
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Propaganda Machine posted:Silence is worse than malice. I sort of assumed that was the point, the last minute dickishness was the order of the day at the last tribunal. Given the escalation I can only assume the next one will involve pictures of our houses or something.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:25
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Propaganda Machine posted:I don't know why you betrayed Chili. I'm guessing Andy had spoken to you and Windy or something. But listen: if you didn't want such a "boring" finish to the game, then why did you save Andy and, by extension, Durf as a whole? So I guess even though this has been discussed about a thousand times over. Hi we saved Andy because we didn't think the move was cool. And in all sincerity Andy ended up being cooler to work with than Chili was shaping up to be. In the long term yeah it was the bad call. But see I kind of went from not liking Andy to thinking he was cool. I'm pretty sure he gets that there was nothing personal when he went out. In the same way I don't think anything personal about me going out. I have no idea where this idea I hate you came from. In truth I actually don't mind anyone in this game.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:25
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John Cena posted:To everyone, in MSPaint draw what your face looked like trying to complete that challenge. 
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Jun 13, 2014 23:25
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Propaganda Machine posted:Silence is worse than malice. Prop. Name one play you have made this game that you followed through on.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:26
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imagine I made that picture into a colour-cycling GIF, because I can't do that in MSPaint
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Jun 13, 2014 23:27
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Anyway as for the ACTUAL TRIBAL QUESTION! Byers and I have been through a lot this week. We were and both have been involved in conversations with non-Durfs, all of which involved either of us backstabbing the other. Thank god for Majuju, because it's the truth: at the end of this, no Durf beats a non-Durf, case closed, might as well not even show up for FTC. Mistrust has been brewing, but Survivor is a game where you NEED to trust, to some extent. For now, I think (I hope) that we have chosen to trust each other beyond all the bullshit of recent events.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:28
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If we are asking questions, I have one! It is about the internal consistency of your arguments, which has historically been bad but like, currently is amazing. You guys should coordinate better, although I suspect the lack of ability to do so is why we are HERE doing this now. The question is this, how can Maj be both the master architect of all evil AND at the SAME TIME be a fall guy patsy chump? My follow up question is more of an OFFER really, as long as IF YOU JUST QUIT I WOULD APPRICIATE IT is on the table, if anyone wants to take me up on that and abdicate the thread in favor of me, that would rule. Cena has the forms I think.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:29
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Majuju posted:imagine I made that picture into a colour-cycling GIF, because I can't do that in MSPaint You are even better at MS Paint than I am. How can this be
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Jun 13, 2014 23:30
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Winson_Paine posted:If we are asking questions, I have one! It is about the internal consistency of your arguments, which has historically been bad but like, currently is amazing. You guys should coordinate better, although I suspect the lack of ability to do so is why we are HERE doing this now. The question is this, how can Maj be both the master architect of all evil AND at the SAME TIME be a fall guy patsy chump? What?
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Jun 13, 2014 23:31
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Propaganda Machine posted:Thank god for Majuju, because it's the truth: at the end of this, no Durf beats a non-Durf, case closed, might as well not even show up for FTC.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:31
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Skinty McEdger posted:What? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a_y3OOQniDU
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Jun 13, 2014 23:33
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Skinty McEdger posted:Prop. Name one play you have made this game that you followed through on. The Durf swap strategy, for one. Andy correctly predicted that a swap was coming, and we had a couple days to prepare. So, we were most likely going to be split up with four on one side and two on the other, or split with three of us in each new tribe. As for what we planned on DOING about it? That was all me. I suggested that the foursome throw challenges to boot the non-Durfs and protect the minority Durfs on the other side. I am positive we would have followed through with that, if we'd had to. Since we were divided three-three, our only play, which I also suggested, was to feign cracks and division and sell each other out as much as possible. It wasn't as clean or elegant as the other case, but our only chance in hell was to play for our new tribes and obsfucate the outstanding Durfness for as long as we could. You see this play out right after the merge. Dhaes flipped to "Durf," who wanted Andy out. Obviously, we couldn't let that happen. That was Fast Luck's first idol gambit. Originally, Byers was going to vote with "Durf" while Winson and I flipped back to protect Andy. I didn't tell Byers why, but after the idol offer, I wanted to preserve that relationship and illusion for as long as I could, and it worked until Andy left with the most simple of majorities.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:34
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Winson_Paine posted:If we are asking questions, I have one! It is about the internal consistency of your arguments, which has historically been bad but like, currently is amazing. You guys should coordinate better, although I suspect the lack of ability to do so is why we are HERE doing this now. The question is this, how can Maj be both the master architect of all evil AND at the SAME TIME be a fall guy patsy chump?
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Jun 13, 2014 23:34
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Winson_Paine posted:You are even better at MS Paint than I am. How can this be ten days ago I achieved enlightenment, it's been pretty cool since then
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Jun 13, 2014 23:35
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Fast Luck posted:Durfs keep repeating this, but it's obviously not true. If Byers or Majuju is sitting next to Winson and I at the end, they likely win. Count the votes yourself. Or if (this will obviously be too late soon) one Durf sat next to both me and Skinty, Skinty probably gets the Windshipper/Disco vote, I might get the Bowmore/Dhaes vote, and the Durf has a good shot at all the rest. The five Durfs on the jury would not vote for the singular Durf who betrayed them all. I can virtually guarantee that.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:35
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Fast Luck posted:Durfs keep repeating this, but it's obviously not true. If Byers or Majuju is sitting next to Winson and I at the end, they likely win. Count the votes yourself. Or if (this will obviously be too late soon) one Durf sat next to both me and Skinty, Skinty probably gets the Windshipper/Disco vote, I might get the Bowmore/Dhaes vote, and the Durf has a good shot at all the rest. I am basically assuming I am so charismatic I can sway the jury to voting me at the end, this is my actual plan.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:36
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Propaganda Machine posted:You see this play out right after the merge. Dhaes flipped to "Durf," who wanted Andy out. Obviously, we couldn't let that happen. That was Fast Luck's first idol gambit. Originally, Byers was going to vote with "Hurf" while Winson and I flipped back to protect Andy. I didn't tell Byers why, but after the idol offer, I wanted to preserve that relationship and illusion for as long as I could, and it worked until Andy left with the most simple of majorities.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:37
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Propaganda Machine posted:The Durf swap strategy, for one. Ah so when you talked about "game theory" what you actually meant was theoretical plays as opposed to real ones. Gotcha.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:37
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Fast Luck posted:That sort of worked. I mean, prior to the Disco vote, I was full-court pressing you to try to keep our group together, so it worked that far. But after the Disco vote, I knew your vote was meaningless and that it couldn't have been made without pre-approval because otherwise you'd be burning your spot in your alliance. As you recall I mentioned it was weird to you that no one seemed to care about the extra Andy vote, but in the Hurf/De doc I flat-out said "Byers and Prop are playing good cop/bad cop, with Prop getting the good cop role."
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Jun 13, 2014 23:39
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Skinty McEdger posted:Ah so when you talked about "game theory" what you actually meant was theoretical plays as opposed to real ones. Cute. By game theory I mean everybody making the best move possible for themselves, and trying to suss out the logical fallacies they currently fall victim to. It wasn't a theoretical play, and least not of "Durf." I worked the "I'm not a big Andy fan." "I don't even KNOW Ice Phoenix" angle as hard as I could. Shrug. Have fun not voting for me to win, I guess.
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FRIDAY FRIDAY FRIDAY COME SEE THE TRIBALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL LAST MINUTE PLAYS, PETULANT ACCUSATIONS, AND FIRE BURNIN FUNNY CARS FIRST 500 KIDS GET CENA HATS FRIDAY FRIDAY FRIDAY YOU WILL GET A WHOLE VOTE BUT YOU WILL ONLY NEED THE MCEDGE FRIDAY FRIDAY FRIDAY
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Propaganda Machine posted:Cute. I will be joining the rest of my fellow judges in that game. In truth I'm at this point torn between Winson and Ice for who I would vote. Ice I like more, but Winson makes funny posts and made some plays that I think were good. I would vote Byers but I don't think any of you are dumb enough to put him in a position where he could get voted on.
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Anyway, my only grudge is with Majuju, if he's offered to quit for y'all Durfs, because quitting is lame. And because it's unfair to Byers because whether or not Majuju realizes it he's clearly forcing Byers to go on an immunity run. And it's unfair to me and Skinty who don't want to quit. Quitting (or voluntarily being voted out) is a pretty big line to cross in Survivor.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:47
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Skinty McEdger posted:Close the thread after this post, for this is where the game ends. Also was this directed at me or Cena?
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Winson_Paine posted:Also was this directed at me or Cena? It was a joke, much like the rest of the overblown nature of the post. I mean you can if you want to. And nothing of worth was lost.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:48
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Skinty McEdger posted:It was a joke, much like the rest of the overblown nature of the post. I mean you can if you want to. See this too was a joke. I know you guys have problems recognising them.
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Skinty McEdger posted:It was a joke, much like the rest of the overblown nature of the post. I mean you can if you want to. pre:God fashioned the ship of the world carefully. With the infinite skill of an All-Master Made He the hull and the sails, Held He the rudder Ready for adjustment. Erect stood He, scanning His work proudly. Then -- at fateful time -- a wrong called, And God turned, heeding. Lo, the ship, at this opportunity, slipped slyly, Making cunning noiseless travel down the ways. So that, forever rudderless, it went upon the seas Going ridiculous voyages, Making quaint progress, Turning as with serious purpose Before stupid winds. And there were many in the sky Who laughed at this thing.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:49
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Skinty McEdger posted:See this too was a joke. I know you guys have problems recognising them. One of the tests I had to pass to become a moderator was to demonstrate a total inability to recognize jokes, sorry.
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Winson_Paine posted:
Seriously you're making a good go of actually making me vote for you at this point.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:51
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Skinty McEdger posted:I will be joining the rest of my fellow judges in that game. I guess I have one lingering question then. Why did you guys go straight for me after you nailed Andy? Why not take care of Byers at that point, if he's SUCH A THREAT?
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Jun 13, 2014 23:51
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Skinty McEdger posted:Seriously you're making a good go of actually making me vote for you at this point. Haha, I love Stephen Crane. He is not really thought of as a poet, but his poetry is so loving cynical it is amazing.
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Propaganda Machine posted:I guess I have one lingering question then. Because, and when you read the confessionals you will see this is true. I actually had you down as the best player in the game. Yet for some reason that changed.
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Jun 13, 2014 23:53
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Skinty McEdger posted:Because, and when you read the confessionals you will see this is true. I actually had you down as the best player in the game. Yeah, you know, if you hadn't been so consistently straightforward in not trusting me, maybe I would have trusted you with something.
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Propaganda Machine posted:Yeah, you know, if you hadn't been so consistently straightforward in not trusting me, maybe I would have trusted you with something. In my experience trusting you doesn't work out that well for anyone involved. Hi Winds buddy. See you soon. I'll have my column in pink please.
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Skinty McEdger posted:In my experience trusting you doesn't work out that well for anyone involved. Do the jury people get to talk and stuff, or are they sequestered? It sounds like the former, which seems kinda cool.
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Winson_Paine posted:Do the jury people get to talk and stuff, or are they sequestered? It sounds like the former, which seems kinda cool. There is a Ponderosa, just like real Survivor.
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