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Anidav posted:Also: The way it's worded is weird. Either: (a)Out of any other income strata, the lowest is spending the most on alcohol and cigarettes (if that's purely as a percentage of income, I MIGHT believe it)OR (b)The lowest income earners are spending more on alcohol and cigarettes than on those other options (I doubt it. as a low income earner myself, utilities). I also tried my hardest to find the sources they were referring to, but unless my Google-Fu is off today, I couldn't find anything that actually relates to the above image. edit: It's b; I suck at reading. Also, of COURSE low income earners aren't going to spend anything on rates, water, or sewerage. They likely don't own their own house. The Before Times fucked around with this message at 09:43 on Jun 17, 2014 |
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They're lying and dumb, hth.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 09:41 |
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Wow the Coalition Policy on higher education is fascinating in 1996. Universities were underfunded in 1996 apparently. Therefore they stopped indexing funding to them. https://web.archive.org/web/19961109123705/http://www.liberal.org.au/POLICY/EDUCATION/highered.htm
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 09:44 |
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In The fine city of Wollongong I did go for a job which involved door knocking to sell austar subscriptions. Part of the interview process was to go out and shadow someone doing the work to see what is involved. Door to door sales is not fun. It's not marketing. What Trew does is essentially the same. My first degree was a BComm major in marketing. We were told to do what was presented to us with sales or marketing in the job title 'to get a foot in the door' (back in the early noughts). After skulking for Bartercard amongst other things I realised this 'wasn't for me' and got the hell out. Don't go for those sales roles that promise big bucks. They don't deliver. My advice is to look at what you're actually interested in doing.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 09:50 |
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No way, poor people don't spend more than rich people on clothing and footwear? What a loving shock. I would have expected the poors to be blowing their cash on gucci while fat cats shop at target.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 10:00 |
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Mithranderp posted:The way it's worded is weird. Either: It's because when you're in that kind of a lovely situation, alcohol is the cheapest and easiest vice. TBH though, when I was a strugging uni student, I couldn't afford to spend anything on booze and smokes, not that I smoke anyway. But what should they be spending money on? Either way, some FYGM shitlord will bitch and whine about "poor people spending his tax dollars" even if they're just putting it all to food and a roof over their heads, because why should they benefit when said shitlord has to pay taxes? I really hate the mentality that this country as a general people has taken.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 10:14 |
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If the poors were spending most of their welfare money on cigarettes and alcohol (which, of course, I doubt) why would you care? Most of the price of those is tax anyway. The money is just going in a circle.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 10:16 |
Did you know that many people on welfare have refrigerators? The sheer gall of them! They should have naught but rocks and sticks! :torysay:
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 10:42 |
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Vladimir Poutine posted:Actually, that's perfect for spreading on social media and getting a campaign going that will at least ruin his day, if not actually damage his career. He's dumb enough to over-step dog whistle territory Eh, might not take too long https://www.facebook.com/DestroyTheJoint/posts/706275466086867 https://www.facebook.com/clementineford/posts/658667417543689 Vladimir Poutine fucked around with this message at 10:53 on Jun 17, 2014 |
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Just got another phone call, tick tack toe, two in a row. How do these guys exist, where does their funding come from and what the gently caress is "performance based" pay? Bullshit man, give me a baseline not a pit.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 12:06 |
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Anidav posted:What else can a kid do? Can't hand out resumes in person without being told to wait online. I tried asking for phone numbers and I got about 10~ numbers I called, 3 of them blocked my number after I left a voice message. Being treated like spam mail by an upper class of mangers is a depressing place to be. What do you mean number blocked? You leave them a voice mail and you call back a few days later and your number is blocked? What are you saying in the voice mail? Are you just heavy breathing for 5 minutes before actually saying something? I've never heard of this happening and I used to be one of the arsehats in Job Services Australia who would harass 'jobseekers' about finding jobs.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 12:12 |
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Why does Tim Blair's blog take you back to web 1.0 land? I'm surprised there isn't a this page best viewed in Netscape navigator icon.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 12:33 |
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Anidav posted:Just got another phone call, tick tack toe, two in a row. They have the EXACT same "career progression chart" as the other scam mob, except it's red and not blue. Aside from that it's the same drat PICTURE. I had no idea these people existed in QLD. Where the hell did they spring from?
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 12:35 |
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If you think about it it's not really that surprising.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 12:37 |
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IronicBeetCriminal posted:What do you mean number blocked? And yeah, Someone has blocked your number if it only rings once and then you get a "The phone number you are trying to get is unavailable." It's a feature built into iOS and Android.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 12:46 |
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fliptophead posted:The best part is his (Scott Morrison) alleged strong xtian beliefs. They're so strong they've broken through logic and reason to be the exact opposite of the bible's teaching. Help the poor? No that obviously means gently caress the poor. A friend in need? They're a "friend" indeed! Hah! Well obviously nobody actually believes in xianity. But if they did, why would they bother helping the poor? The bible says only 133000 virginal, Jewish, male castrati are going to heaven. So if your dawned to Sheol anyway, might as well inflict suffering on others
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Jumpingmanjim posted:Why does Tim Blair's blog take you back to web 1.0 land? I'm surprised there isn't a this page best viewed in Netscape navigator icon. Because thats when his popularity peaked. He's a Bolt-wannabe, and lost the more intelligent followers to Bolt, all that are left are the fruitbats (no insult meant to actual fruitbats).
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CrazyTolradi posted:They have the EXACT same "career progression chart" as the other scam mob, except it's red and not blue. Aside from that it's the same drat PICTURE. These places have been around forever, and usually fly under the radar of the authoritahs because they recruit backpackers, fresh year 10 school-leavers, and poorly educated people who don't know enough about their rights / the goddamn law to question how they operate. They often go FULL cult as well, and use a shitton of behavioral psych tricks to squeeze the most out of naive workers - mandatory team building exercises every morning, usually for over an hour (unpaid), in which some guy acts like a hype man for whatever poo poo product they're marketing, another charismatic bloke talking about how much money he makes thanks to this wonderful system, followed by some stern fellow saying how much you'll let yourself, your team, your parents, etc. down if you don't make your sales quota, etc. etc. The pressure they put on young kids to sell their lovely trinkets is unbelievable and often they'll try and keep whatever pissy commissions a kid is owed, because the kids burn out after a few weeks and stop showing up to work. I'd almost forgotten that these things exist. They were rife in hostels when I was backpacking around Australia years ago, this seems like an evolved version. The whole concept of MLM is a loving scam and it's criminal that it's allowed in any form.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 15:38 |
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quote:Feminists for shame! Why we should all support paid parental leave "Women are their own worst enemies."
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 16:09 |
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https://twitter.com/DeptOfAustralia
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Avshalom posted:i'm not, i'm a highly respected regular gently caress sisterfriend this is where you buggered up the ruse.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 18:41 |
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From the front page of Courier Mail, June 18th I had these figures before but have lost them now, how much worse off are current pensioners going to be with this budget? Now let's take some guesses on what this letter will entail a) propaganda b) full of lies c) misleading, disingenuous to the point of satire d) blames Labor and/or refugees e) Neglects to mention discounts/concessions cuts f) suggests that pensioners work at McDonalds if they are struggling to make ends meet I'm also wondering what the cost will be to send 2.4 million letters out
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 20:50 |
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Jessica Irvine posted:Rather than a debate about what is affordable in the current budget environment, it has turned into an attack on the very idea of paid parental leave — a concept which all Australians should inherently support. So rather than universal medical care and education, a fair go for the unemployed, action on climate change, the NDIS, the NBN, not building loving concentration camps and a whole raft of other concepts that Australians should inherently support, the important one is a beefed up paid parental leave scheme which is blatant middle-upper class welfare targeted at the Liberal Party's social set. Right.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 22:48 |
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Maybe you're just too right wing to support it
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 23:01 |
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Looks like MediaWatch struck a nerve.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 23:21 |
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They literally just reprinted some idiotic catallaxy post.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 23:36 |
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Ler posted:I'm also wondering what the cost will be to send 2.4 million letters out At the very least? A dollar a letter. Breakdown wise? Maybe 5-10 cents per page, probably 10-20 cents an envelopes plus postage costs – assuming they have a deal with AusPost and are also having them do it with their regional facilities, the postage costs will likely bring it up to a dollar or so. Add fifteen percent in overheads, plus a couple of grand for the poor bastards tasked with pulling that list from the data base and sanity checking it. … now double it all for spin doctor consultancy fees.
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# ? Jun 17, 2014 23:58 |
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Ler posted:f) suggests that pensioners work at Gough Suppressant fucked around with this message at 00:05 on Jun 18, 2014 |
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Maybe he should actually read the ABS articles. http://www.abs.gov.au/AUSSTATS/abs@.nsf/Lookup/4102.0Main+Features30July+2013 I somehow doubt that in 3-4 years Cigarettes and Alcohol have overtaken the cost of keeping a roof over your head. Also 5206.0 makes literally no mention of cigarettes or alcohol. Ol Sweepy fucked around with this message at 00:16 on Jun 18, 2014 |
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adamantium|wang posted:
Is that a whole page of anti plain packaging articles/opinion?
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# ? Jun 18, 2014 00:09 |
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Why don't we have a :tonywink: yet?
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# ? Jun 18, 2014 00:14 |
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Anidav posted:And yeah, Someone has blocked your number if it only rings once and then you get a "The phone number you are trying to get is unavailable." It's a feature built into iOS and Android. What?
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# ? Jun 18, 2014 00:20 |
Sinclair Davidson and Adam Creighton. They've called in the big guns.
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High Court is going to rule on some aspects of the offshore processing regime today. http://www.abc.net.au/news/2014-06-18/manus-island-high-court-verdict-due/5531228 My tip is they find the provisions constitutionally valid, probably 7:0. If I'm wrong about that, they will invalidate it by majority rather than unanimously (I'd say 4:3), and Hayne will be in the dissent. e: To be clearer, I'm talking about the provisions themselves, and not the Minister's decision. They might not reach the question of the validity of the provisions, but if they do, I'm tipping as above. I have no guess to make on the validity of the Minister's decision. Those On My Left fucked around with this message at 00:46 on Jun 18, 2014 |
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My takeaway from the past 24 hours is that News Ltd really hates women and really loves cigarettes. I look forward to telling my daughter that the largest media company in the country thinks corporations that make money from literally giving people cancer are defensible but her right to be assertive isn't.
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# ? Jun 18, 2014 00:27 |
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quote:ABC News @abcnews 50s
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# ? Jun 18, 2014 01:21 |
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XMD 5a posted:My takeaway from the past 24 hours is that News Ltd really hates women and really loves cigarettes. Tell her to pull herself up by her bootstraps and start her own tobacco company.
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# ? Jun 18, 2014 01:27 |
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Yup, a 6:0 decision (Gageler recused himself). http://www.austlii.edu.au/au/cases/cth/HCA/2014/22.html Incredibly short judgment.
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# ? Jun 18, 2014 01:28 |
Breaking news : Australia is still poo poo
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Just a reminder, something being constitutional does not necessitate it being just or right.
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# ? Jun 18, 2014 01:34 |