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Ape Agitator posted:a pun run is a force of nature that answers to no man. NO MAN!
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I've been listening to The Bugle due to this show and it's remarkable how John Oliver is incredible no matter where he is or what he's doing but Andy is loving insufferable without John on the Bugle to balance him
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I like Andy but he is definitely best as a pair with John.
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FlyingCheese posted:I agree with everything posted here, I only wish it was a little longer. If Smuggy McSmug Bill Maher can do an hour, this show can too. A week wait for a half hour show isn't enough, it's just too good.
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E PLURIBUS ANUS posted:I've been listening to The Bugle due to this show and it's remarkable how John Oliver is incredible no matter where he is or what he's doing but Andy is loving insufferable without John on the Bugle to balance him They balance each other. Andy's bullshit is tempered by John's refusal to engage with it, and John's occasional anxiety and indignation is countered by Andy's, well, bullshit. While Andy's solo Bugle bits aren't so great, his stand-up is quite good. Dreylad fucked around with this message at 16:08 on Jun 18, 2014 |
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VagueRant posted:Also how the gently caress has he not brought Andy in on his fancy new show at least once? Come on. Give him the Joliver Bump. Maybe Andy has been on the show. You have to wonder, where did they get that image of Mitch McConnel?
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Dreylad posted:They balance each other. Andy's bullshit is tempered by John's refusal to engage with it, and John occasional anxiety is indignation is countered by Andy's, well, bullshit. This is a pretty succinct way of putting it. Andy's pun runs are great, if you have John/Chris groaning along with you. The episodes leading up to Last Week Tonight's first episode had some great segments of John anxiously having no idea how to deal with stress/his face on the side of busses, and Andy was there to joke/bullshit right through it.
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FlyingCheese posted:I agree with everything posted here, I only wish it was a little longer. If Smuggy McSmug Bill Maher can do an hour, this show can too. A week wait for a half hour show isn't enough, it's just too good. Bill Maher does ten minutes, an interview, then lets his panel argue until five minutes of new rules. I agree that Last Week Tonight is excellent and there needs to be a lot more of it, but that isn't the best comparison to make. (I also wish we had more outspoken atheists like Maher, just not like Maher with his ugly anti-Islam. Better to be anti-religion, you'll either ruffle fewer feathers or more of the right ones.)
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Bill Maher does ten minutes, an interview, then lets his panel argue until five minutes of new rules. I agree that Last Week Tonight is excellent and there needs to be a lot more of it, but that isn't the best comparison to make. I would love for you to tell me who "the right ones" are. 
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JohnSherman posted:I would love for you to tell me who "the right ones" are. I think he means right as people on the right.
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JohnSherman posted:I would love for you to tell me who "the right ones" are. Anyone who uses the guise of Christianity to spread hate speech, from televangelists like Pat Robertson and Glenn Beck to the religious right of this country. I don't hate the religious, just most of their figureheads and what they accomplish.
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Anyone who uses the guise of Christianity to spread hate speech, from televangelists like Pat Robertson and Glenn Beck to the religious right of this country. It'd be nice, and I'm saying this as a Catholic, for there to be more popular and well known atheists that weren't subsequently known to also be dicks about it. Religions need critics in order to improve, both from within and from without, or otherwise it just ends up a damned echo chamber, and the echo can be quite disastrous. Stewart and his associates delve into it at times, but they're more on the 'this is how its supposed to work you nitwits' end of the spectrum, rather than a direct deconstruction and weighing of values therein. I'm occasionally left wondering sometimes what would have happened if the Red Scare weren't a thing, and America hadn't buckled down so fervently on God and Capitalism so as to distance themselves from the Soviets. I mean, its around and in the aftermath of that, that a lot of the current idiots seem to have come out of.
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:(I also wish we had more outspoken atheists like Maher, just not like Maher with his ugly anti-Islam. Better to be anti-religion, you'll either ruffle fewer feathers or more of the right ones.) Bill Maher is the last person anyone should emulate, for any reason.
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Bill Maher is an Islamophobe and an anti-vaxer. With John Oliver, HBO subscribers don't have to pretend to like Bill Maher anymore.
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Astro Nut posted:It'd be nice, and I'm saying this as a Catholic, for there to be more popular and well known atheists that weren't subsequently known to also be dicks about it. Thank you, that's very much the point I'm trying to make. Atheists arrived at a logical conclusion, and I wish more were interested in sharing that rather than spreading stories about dumb Christians or anything else. It's quite likely that people have already seen these stories and shaken their collective heads. Makes me wish there was a better message to send than "your entire spiritual life was a lie!" Ricky Gervais is a good example that illustrates both sides of my point. He has embraced atheism and shared some of what that viewpoint grants you, but he's a big part of the "LOL Christianity" echo chamber that I have no interest in joining.
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Pyroxene Stigma posted:Thank you, that's very much the point I'm trying to make. Atheists arrived at a logical conclusion, and I wish more were interested in sharing that rather than spreading stories about dumb Christians or anything else. It's quite likely that people have already seen these stories and shaken their collective heads. Makes me wish there was a better message to send than "your entire spiritual life was a lie!" Problem is the two sides that engage in these conversations have made it pretty central to their identity. The angry atheist very much included. For the atheist who doesn't believe and sees no reason to make it part of their lives it's just a non-issue, like not being a vegan, or not playing golf. Like how am I going to get excited over talking about how not being a rodeo clown is a thing, I just don't give a poo poo, but I have nothing against them.
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Echo Chamber posted:Bill Maher is an Islamophobe and an anti-vaxer. Imagine if Bill Maher's popularity nose-dives and John Oliver gets to take his spot. They could throw a televised version of The Bugle in there!
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IRQ posted:Problem is the two sides that engage in these conversations have made it pretty central to their identity. The angry atheist very much included. For the atheist who doesn't believe and sees no reason to make it part of their lives it's just a non-issue, like not being a vegan, or not playing golf. I suppose one way a person might frame it, is having the argument as 'here is how you can love and have a fulfilled life without needing a spiritual/religious reinforcement', rather than 'religion sucks, ruins everything, and here's why!'. But that does vary somewhat, as naturally the reasons for Atheism vary as well. Sometimes its, as television most commonly depicts, disagreement with or dissent against religious belief, whether one a person has previously had or that they see in others - ie, the whole 'how can there be a God if bad stuff happens?!' train of thought. For others, they - fairly enough - do not see sufficient evidence that supports the existence of some kind of higher power, and are satisfied to base their life and existence in things that can be tested, verified, and proven, finding certainty in things that are actually certain. For others, they do not need a god of any kind because they instead have the natural beauty of the universe itself, a vast, intricate mechanism that is so many regards far easier to understand, based in mechanics and logic, yet at such an unfathomable scale that it brings out true awe. Needless to say, the kind of Catholic upbringing I had, both from family and from my schools, was fairly open minded. RE wasn't just reinforcement of our own faith - but quite often studying and understand others, or the lack thereof. Hearing the way some places handle it in the States (though I imagine its more than just there) makes me shudder.
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Probably not actually related but the Washington Slurs lost their team name trademark today. Unfortunately this has happened before and they got it appealed but maybe this time good can win. Should be funny to see if John becomes mad with power.
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Now the NSA can legally brand themselves as the "Washington Redskins".
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muscles like this? posted:Probably not actually related but the Washington Slurs lost their team name trademark today. Unfortunately this has happened before and they got it appealed but maybe this time good can win. Should be funny to see if John becomes mad with power. It's interesting how much of what he talks about then changes. POM, the FCC, and now the Redskins have been lambasted and subsequently have had things happen to change it. Can't say much about causation for the first and third, but regardless, it could make for a great segment if he goes for an small-and-obscure-but-definite shitpile just to see what happens.
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Echo Chamber posted:Now the NSA can legally brand themselves as the "Washington Redskins". I think until the appeal goes through their trademark is still in effect. I read an article that made a good point that while they may beat it in court they're losing in public opinion as the NFL isn't too happy with the whole situation.
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It kinda surprises me that with all the heat the Redskins are (rightfully) getting for their name, you never hear anyone talk about the absolutely-racist-as-poo poo Cleveland Indians logo.
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raditts posted:It kinda surprises me that with all the heat the Redskins are (rightfully) getting for their name, you never hear anyone talk about the absolutely-racist-as-poo poo Cleveland Indians logo. If you read the TFF thread you'll see that the logo's slowly being phased out in favor of a large C.
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raditts posted:It kinda surprises me that with all the heat the Redskins are (rightfully) getting for their name, you never hear anyone talk about the absolutely-racist-as-poo poo Cleveland Indians logo.
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The international angle (despite being very American in approach) is really smart : it means it's far, far easier to sell to other English speaking countries. I know they run it on Sky Atlantic, which is where HBO have their main UK deal, and maybe in Australia too, as they love importing and not big fans of making original programming themselves. Anyone know much about the writing team? Did they come partially from TDS or did JO work with them previously on stuff? They seem to have gotten the tone bang on so quickly, I'd be surprised if they were just round up by HBO randomly.
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EL BROMANCE posted:The international angle (despite being very American in approach) is really smart : it means it's far, far easier to sell to other English speaking countries. I know they run it on Sky Atlantic, which is where HBO have their main UK deal, and maybe in Australia too, as they love importing and not big fans of making original programming themselves. This had me curious too. I couldn't really see them successfully poaching writers because correspondents leave TDS all the time. However, the showrunner for LWT is the former head writer for The Daily Show. And looking it up, the writing staff has one Colbert Report and Demetri Martin veteran, several from The Onion, many who mostly write for cartoons (!), and the head writer for W. Kamau Bell's show. The TDS head writer had been with the show since 2004 so he is probably why LWT hit the ground running so effectively. But only the showrunner seems to have worked with Oliver previously. http://splitsider.com/2014/04/talking-last-week-tonight-with-john-oliver-with-showrunner-tim-carvell/
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Maybe they listen to the Bugle or they paid close attention because they really suit John Oliver's style.
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Here's a GQ interview of John Oliver where they make him guess of the soccer player names are real or fake. I can't believe that some of these are real. Bongo Christ! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jRFsEoUYCvc And here's a recent NPR interview of John Oliver http://www.npr.org/2014/06/19/323335539/john-oliver-is-no-ones-friend-on-his-new-hbo-show
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Lumberjack Bonanza posted:Imagine if Bill Maher's popularity nose-dives and John Oliver gets to take his spot. They could throw a televised version of The Bugle in there! Man, as someone who just saw some Bill Maher for the first time in a while, I hope this is true. Real Time feels like a handjob I'm not sure I want. Edit: and he just said "and apparently I'm a bad man because I said I don't like Muslims ", soon followed by "my friend Christopher Hitchens' opinion on Muslims was..." ultramiraculous fucked around with this message at 08:50 on Jun 20, 2014 |
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The Bugle are taking 3 months off 
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L_E_E posted:Here's a GQ interview of John Oliver where they make him guess of the soccer player names are real or fake. I can't believe that some of these are real. Bongo Christ! You get to repeat a name like Bongo Christ. You do not get to make up a name like Bongo Christ.
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thehustler posted:The Bugle are taking 3 months off Seems a good time as any to post this archive of pre-Soundcloud Bugle episodes. 180+ episodes some of you may never have heard! Hear the origin of The Bugle's fascination with Burlusconi, marvel at a cameo by Andy's kids in an anniversary episode, and meet the mysterious, long-cancelled character known only as The American.
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Tiny Brontosaurus posted:Seems a good time as any to post this archive of pre-Soundcloud Bugle episodes. 180+ episodes some of you may never have heard! Hear the origin of The Bugle's fascination with Burlusconi, marvel at a cameo by Andy's kids in an anniversary episode, and meet the mysterious, long-cancelled character known only as The American. Hotties from History
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You must listen to Episode 99. Perhaps the funniest thing they've ever done.
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Humbug Scoolbus posted:You must listen to Episode 99. Perhaps the funniest thing they've ever done. Is that the stupid buildings episode?
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Popelmon posted:Is that the stupid buildings episode? It's Berlusconi being hit in the face with a miniature cathedral. Stupid buildings is 97. Man, that has one of my favourite Oliver rants. "The property prices on the palm-shaped islands are dropping far below what Dubai expected and some reports are coming out that the islands themselves are sinking. Oh, no poo poo! I'll tell you why that's happening. They're not loving islands you morons! You just dumped some sand in some water which shouldn't be there." Thurm fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jun 23, 2014 |
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Thurm posted:It's Berlusconi being hit in the face with a miniature cathedral. Stupid buildings is 97. 97 is great but The 'The surprising thing for me John, is that it's taken 73 years for someone to bash Silvio Berlusconi in the face with a plaster replica of the Milan Cathedral..." Andy's delivery of that line always kills me in its matter-of-factness.
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No waffles? T-SHIRT CANNON! bobkatt013 fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Jun 23, 2014 |
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