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Ferrous Wheel
Aug 18, 2007

"This is not only a security risk but we occasionally get pigeons roosting in the space as a result."
You can find Japanese-made symmetrical SG clones branded Edwards, Tokai, Greco, Burny, Orville, and Epiphone Japan. They vary in price according to when they were made and how fancy they are, but almost all of them are well-built and highly accurate copies of the original. Prices have calmed down a bit recently too, so if you can find one locally and thereby avoid shipping from Japan you can do quite well.

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40 OZ
May 16, 2003

Professor Science posted:

(I almost pulled the trigger on the Chris Cornell ES-335 a year ago or whenever it was, despite its stupid price tag and lmao Chris Cornell, simply because it was matte black and had Lollartrons. I still sorta regret that.)

I am like the biggest Gibson hater but that was a dope loving guitar.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Professor Science posted:

(I almost pulled the trigger on the Chris Cornell ES-335 a year ago or whenever it was, despite its stupid price tag and lmao Chris Cornell, simply because it was matte black and had Lollartrons. I still sorta regret that.)

Weren't they cheaper than a regular 335 anyway? I thought the whole idea was less CHRIS CORNELL SIGNATURE, and more 'Chris Cornell specs two guitars for himself which are rad and Gibson does a limited run of them'

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR
Those would be "more" symmetric compared to an ESP but not symmetrical as the original SG is not symmetrical. I second the advice on that Gretsch. It's a nice guitar, nice single coils in them.

You can always get yourself an Epiphone Dot, Sheraton, or Lucille.

Ferrous Wheel
Aug 18, 2007

"This is not only a security risk but we occasionally get pigeons roosting in the space as a result."
Right, of course. :downs: I meant to say they look like a typical SG; a shape I guess I don't know that well although I have been eyeballing them more lately. Anyone have one of those 70s tribute ones? Are they any good at all?

That Gretsch is very cool. Love that green finish. I also really like the Ibanez Artcore series. If you like the Schecter Corsair you'll probably like the AS73, AS93, and many siblings since they're exactly the same shape. The new Expressionist series includes some really interesting designs. They've also rebooted the old Artstar name, which originally belonged to a short-lived Korean line. There was a very accurate 335 in that series actually-except for the "castle" headstock. I've never played a Korean Artstar, but I suspect they're pretty good.

The Japanese AS100 I played at Drum City in Colorado was one of the nicest 335-types I've ever laid hands on.

Gripen5
Nov 3, 2003

'Startocaster' is more fun to say than I expected.
GF use to (until very, very recently I think) have a Xaviere guitar and the body was practically an exact replica of the SG body. I was surprised they were able to get away with it, but I am sure it only lasted as long as it did because they are so small time, that Gibson never noticed.

Gripen5 fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Jun 19, 2014

Dirt
May 26, 2003

Hey, thanks for all the info folks.

So I played an Epiphone ES-339 Ultra today at my local shop. It was $799.00.

I think I am going to pull the trigger on it. It seriously sounded awesome, and played just right. It's kind of trippy looking too, with it's shrunk down body size.

Looking online though I see some used ones on Musicians friend in pelham blue:



I really like how that looks. The debate now is if I want to save some money and get one that might not play and sound as nice as the cherry colored one I played today.

Hard decision I guess. My life is so hard :D

40 OZ
May 16, 2003

baka kaba posted:

I thought the whole idea was less CHRIS CORNELL SIGNATURE, and more 'Chris Cornell specs two guitars for himself which are rad and Gibson does a limited run of them'

This is how most signature guitars are marketed today, unless they are for megastars like Clapton or Slash or whatever. I think the logic is that it is corny today to buy guitar with some dude's signature all over it.

They have been more modest about the CHRIS CORNELL SIGNATURE because there are a bunch of wierdos who are mad whenever someone who isn't a virtuoso is attached to a Signature model, like it means something.

It was made in very few quantities (I think 250 of each color). That and with the 335/339 in style big time = expensive. The budget one is the "Studio."

40 OZ fucked around with this message at 22:53 on Jun 19, 2014

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

40 OZ posted:

This is how most signature guitars are marketed today, unless they are for megastars like Clapton or Slash or whatever. I think the logic is that it is corny today to buy guitar with some dude's signature all over it.

They have been more modest about the CHRIS CORNELL SIGNATURE because there are a bunch of wierdos who are mad whenever someone who isn't a virtuoso is attached to a Signature model, like it means something.

It was made in very few quantities (I think 250 of each color). That and with the 335/339 in style big time = expensive. The budget one is the "Studio."

If they make a HH Adrian Smith jackson signature w/floyd rose I'm buying the gently caress out of it.

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

40 OZ posted:

This is how most signature guitars are marketed today, unless they are for megastars like Clapton or Slash or whatever. I think the logic is that it is corny today to buy guitar with some dude's signature all over it.
The J Mascis Jazzmaster is pretty sweet and I want one. The Epiphone Joe Pass Emperor is really cool but I don't know if Joe Pass was actually involved in it. Then there's the original signature guitar, the Gretsch Chet Atkins Country Gentleman.

I also eagerly await the Marissa Paternoster signature G&L, but that's probably a pipe dream.

Also, here is Joe Pass dropping knowledge-bombs for general edification.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3Hn18o5dh4

Synonamess Botch
Jun 5, 2006

dicks are for my cat
Wouldn't the original signature guitar be the Les Paul? Or did the gretsch come first

Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay

Nebraska Tim posted:

I've always loved the appearance of the SG, and a quick search of Aria SG has get me hooked. Could you possibly upload a picture of yours, for curiosity's sake?

EDIT: Do you have any idea how much they might go for? I can't find any, anywhere.


I bought this one while back for around 350. Pretty sure it is a '72

40 OZ
May 16, 2003

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

The J Mascis Jazzmaster is pretty sweet and I want one. The Epiphone Joe Pass Emperor is really cool but I don't know if Joe Pass was actually involved in it. Then there's the original signature guitar, the Gretsch Chet Atkins Country Gentleman.

I also eagerly await the Marissa Paternoster signature G&L, but that's probably a pipe dream.

Also, here is Joe Pass dropping knowledge-bombs for general edification.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l3Hn18o5dh4

I agree with you, I might have miscommunicated there.

There are a ton of awesome signature models. I have one myself. I'm saying, that you'll see 99% of the time when an artist is marketing it today, they'll say "I didn't want this to be about me, I wanted this to be a cool guitar that somebody would buy because it is cool on it's own, I just designed it, etc."

As opposed to:



or:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNpS23xTyCM

Which is more memorabilia-y.

I have a signature model guitar and I've never listened to that artist's music. Also, there are lots of configurations you can only get on signature models- hardtail strat, aforementioned gretschy cornell 335, etc. You mentioned Chet Atkins, he had a signature 335 too for a minute.

40 OZ fucked around with this message at 02:19 on Jun 20, 2014

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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So I'm sort of half looking around for a Tele, given that I don't have one and I'd like to have something with a new sound; and I found something I really liked on Wikipedia of all places. Does anyone know if the Acoustasonic Tele as neat as it looks, and is it worth tracking one down?

Kilometers Davis
Jul 9, 2007

They begin again

Dewgy posted:

So I'm sort of half looking around for a Tele, given that I don't have one and I'd like to have something with a new sound; and I found something I really liked on Wikipedia of all places. Does anyone know if the Acoustasonic Tele as neat as it looks, and is it worth tracking one down?

I had to google that and man am I ever curious about those now. I'd love to play around with one.

Professor Science
Mar 8, 2006
diplodocus + mortarboard = party

baka kaba posted:

Weren't they cheaper than a regular 335 anyway? I thought the whole idea was less CHRIS CORNELL SIGNATURE, and more 'Chris Cornell specs two guitars for himself which are rad and Gibson does a limited run of them'
I don't think they were that much cheaper. Maybe like $200 ($3k instead of $3200?). Anyway I was super hesitant about spending that much money on a guitar and then I bought an eight string for even more. oh well someday I'll just buy one off ebay or craigslist or whatever

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
still want a gibson casino high roller

Ghost of Reagan Past
Oct 7, 2003

rock and roll fun

Synonamess Botch posted:

Wouldn't the original signature guitar be the Les Paul? Or did the gretsch come first
drat! I was close. Two years apart (LP in 1952, Chet Atkins in 1954).

Anyone have thoughts on that goofy Fender Vaporizer amp? The local shop has a used one (which is weird, didn't it come out THIS YEAR?) for $300, but I didn't have either of my guitars when I popped down there. My amp is a Fender so I don't know exactly how much the sound will differ from the SCX2 without trying it (demos seem decent) but at that price it's worth a serious look for a second one that could be fun.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
i think the merle haggard came first

Declan MacManus
Sep 1, 2011

damn i'm really in this bitch

Ghost of Reagan Past posted:

drat! I was close. Two years apart (LP in 1952, Chet Atkins in 1954).

Anyone have thoughts on that goofy Fender Vaporizer amp? The local shop has a used one (which is weird, didn't it come out THIS YEAR?) for $300, but I didn't have either of my guitars when I popped down there. My amp is a Fender so I don't know exactly how much the sound will differ from the SCX2 without trying it (demos seem decent) but at that price it's worth a serious look for a second one that could be fun.

I tried one and I hated how it sounded when it broke up but I tend to like smoother distortion than what they're going for with it

Dewgy
Nov 10, 2005

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Kilometers Davis posted:

I had to google that and man am I ever curious about those now. I'd love to play around with one.

Yyyyup. I'd love to try one locally, though I did also have a chance to check out a Gretsch Honeydipper at a local guitar shop; which I may go for. $530 seems to be the going rate for one and it weighs a god drat ton (as it should) but sounds like no other guitar I've ever heard.

Not exactly impulse purchase territory for either but they're fun. :3:

Schlieren
Jan 7, 2005

LEZZZZZZZZZBIAN CRUSH

Declan MacManus posted:

I tried one and I hated how it sounded when it broke up but I tend to like smoother distortion than what they're going for with it

I play at the edge of breakup such that it gets fairly "overdriven" when played dynamically. I bet this is why finding a good overdrive pedal is difficult for me, because they only drive the amp further into breakup and I don't really want that. I want it louder and for it to sound different, but no more overdrive. I think the best analogy is to say that I want it to be like the difference between the amp on "Lo" and the amp on "Hi" -- definitely louder, fuller, actually maybe a little less breakup. I don't know how to do this. Maybe an EQ pedal that's pushed louder, but also has some frequencies attenuated? Use tube-y a preamp pedal to choke the guitar but provide a pleasing breakup, so that then turning it [b]off[/i] actually makes the guitar louder, with different breakup characteristics?

Kind of a weird one imo

Southern Heel
Jul 2, 2004

So I have my new Blues Jr V2 and it sounds great! However, it has got a hiss or quiet buzz that is independent of volume/master-volume (unless they`re zeroed out) - it`s not really loud but it`s audible. Is this right, or is something broken?

Nebraska Tim
Feb 2, 2010

Smash it Smash hit posted:

I bought this one while back for around 350. Pretty sure it is a '72


350? I was expecting much, much more. Looks like GAS wins this round!

(Also, loving that the Aria SG has a natural wood look, nice change from mine.)

syntaxfunction
Oct 27, 2010
I just want to say that the best SG-alike, in terms of looks at least, for me has to be the Reverend Sensei which I want one I want one I want one. Not exactly an SG but you can see the design in it.

Signature guitars are kinda cool. I've never really seen one I'd want to pay mucho dinero for over just sourcing the pickups and putting in a standard model. I get that a lot of artists try and make the ultimate versatile guitar, but to me a signature guitar should offer some weird combination that you can't really get without a pain.

Cojawfee
May 31, 2006
I think the US is dumb for not using Celsius

Southern Heel posted:

So I have my new Blues Jr V2 and it sounds great! However, it has got a hiss or quiet buzz that is independent of volume/master-volume (unless they`re zeroed out) - it`s not really loud but it`s audible. Is this right, or is something broken?

Make sure the tubes are properly seated. While the amp is on, touch the tip of the preamp tubes and gently move them around a bit. There shouldn't be any noise when you do this. If so, turn the amp off, let the tubes cool down and take out the one that was making noise. Using a needle or tiny screw driver, tighten the sockets the pins plug into and check for corrosion. I had a loose connection and was getting hisses and pops until I fixed one of the tube sockets.

Otis Reddit
Nov 14, 2006
Holy poo poo don't listen to him unless you like 2nd degree burns.

TopherCStone
Feb 27, 2013

I am very important and deserve your attention

syntaxfunction posted:

I just want to say that the best SG-alike, in terms of looks at least, for me has to be the Reverend Sensei which I want one I want one I want one. Not exactly an SG but you can see the design in it.


Reverends are sweet as heck, but I think if I was going to get one I'd get one of their Sixguns in sea foam green.

Anybody have some suggestions on a smallish combo amp with a great clean sound? I have a Vox AC4TV mini (boxy and shrill sounding, even through an extension cab) and a Roland Cube 60 (powers on but doesn't make sound) so I'm kind of in dire straits here. Budget is $4-500 (or less if possible!).

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Dirt posted:

Hey, thanks for all the info folks.

So I played an Epiphone ES-339 Ultra today at my local shop. It was $799.00.

I think I am going to pull the trigger on it. It seriously sounded awesome, and played just right. It's kind of trippy looking too, with it's shrunk down body size.

Looking online though I see some used ones on Musicians friend in pelham blue:



I really like how that looks. The debate now is if I want to save some money and get one that might not play and sound as nice as the cherry colored one I played today.

Hard decision I guess. My life is so hard :D

Do some research. I've read that there was a production error on a batch of those. Either bad pups or bad electronics or some thing like that.

A buddy of mine has one and it sounds and plays great though.

Smash it Smash hit
Dec 30, 2009

prettay, prettay

Nebraska Tim posted:

350? I was expecting much, much more. Looks like GAS wins this round!

(Also, loving that the Aria SG has a natural wood look, nice change from mine.)

yeah dude they are pretty sick, the pups are juuussssst a bit too weak for me and prob going to replace them with some gfs pickups that are gold and blackish

Zuhzuhzombie!!
Apr 17, 2008
FACTS ARE A CONSPIRACY BY THE CAPITALIST OPRESSOR

Nebraska Tim posted:


(Also, loving that the Aria SG has a natural wood look, nice change from mine.)

1970s in a nutshell.

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN
My friend just called me up all excited because he found this guitar in a pawn shop for $250

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-Sixties-Silvertone-Model-1478-Silhouette-Electric-Guitar-/221471028594?pt=Guitar&hash=item3390b3b572

I think that's a decent deal.

monolithburger
Sep 7, 2011
Did he confirm that it's not the modern reissue?

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

monolithburger posted:

Did he confirm that it's not the modern reissue?

Yes. CHecked the serial number and everything.

its curtains for Kevin
Nov 14, 2011

Fruit is proof that the gods exist and love us.

Just kidding!

Life is meaningless
Give me recommendations for a good set of strings to put on a Schecter 7 string. I want to try something besides ernie ball strings but I'm open to any suggestions.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン
did you try the cobalts yet?

Spanish Manlove
Aug 31, 2008

HAILGAYSATAN

NTT posted:

Give me recommendations for a good set of strings to put on a Schecter 7 string. I want to try something besides ernie ball strings but I'm open to any suggestions.

Literally anything will work and is good, from DR or D'Addario that is. EB is ok I guess.

its curtains for Kevin
Nov 14, 2011

Fruit is proof that the gods exist and love us.

Just kidding!

Life is meaningless
http://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/msg/4504435529.html

I want to buy it because my bank account says 6k but I have to save the money to buy a car with instead. Life's priorities are cruel :negative:

Alec Bald Snatch
Sep 12, 2012

by exmarx

NTT posted:

Give me recommendations for a good set of strings to put on a Schecter 7 string. I want to try something besides ernie ball strings but I'm open to any suggestions.

Dean Markley Blue Steels aren't too bad, though the low B is kinda floppy, but that's the case for pretty much every 7-string set.

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Sockington
Jul 26, 2003
A lot of readily available sets leave the low B at about .060 for thickness (had GHS Boomers, and some other set for the couple months I tried a 7string). When dropped down to a low A, it was floppy as all hell.

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