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9031 | 65.25% |
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| Waluigi |
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1603 | 11.58% |
| Waa |
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748 | 5.40% |
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Fremry posted:I think this may be the crux of it. You shouldn't "have to know" how to play a console. From a page or so back...but I really can't believe the ignorance of this statement. Were you born knowing how to operate every company's game console and their respective controllers? That'd be a neat trick, given that unless you're really really young, the current "standard" controller design didn't exist when you were born. There's a learning curve for every single device you ever come into contact with in your life. Some are simpler than others. It may take you 15 seconds to learn how to use your can opener, maybe half an hour to figure out all the defrost and popcorn settings on your new microwave, and a couple hour-long play sessions to become comfortable with a new console controller, for ANY system, not just Nintendo ones. Yes, you absolutely have to know how to play a console. You don't play an Xbox 360 by waving the controller through the air and you don't play a Wii by pointing the wii-mote at the floor (Y'know, unless Wario Ware tells you to).
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Jun 20, 2014 19:55
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I don't want to revive this discussion, but I think his point was that gaming consoles today have a standard of how to use them. The Wii broke that mold (and inspired the Kinect, Move etc etc) and he didn't like that he had to learn how to play it. For example, take the 7th gen out entirely and you can easily see one person jumping from one console to the next with the only barrier needing to know what buttons do what.
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Jun 20, 2014 19:58
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Misandu posted:Let's call it a slight against Trixie in Toyland. Where is Anubis 1 Nintendo!? 
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Jun 20, 2014 20:00
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Loving Pikmin 3. I wish they would update the original 2 for the touch screen, because this game is super and I want more.
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Jun 20, 2014 20:14
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The best thing about playing Wii games in Dolphin is that you can just suck the motion controls out of them. "Shake" to do a thing is really, really dumb. I can definitely see little kids enjoying it but I don't really believe people when they say they prefer that to pressing a button. It's the exact same function as a button, but you have to shake your controller around like a spaz to hit it. The sword controls in Skyword Sword would've been much better if it had been "press a + swing remote", rather than just swinging the remote on its own. The problem I had with the combat was that I would often swing when just resetting to a neutral position, or adjusting my wrist to swing in another direction. It wasn't terrible, but the whole time I found myself wishing I could plug in a pro controller and use the right stick to swing (sort of like Skate). Pointing down to roll bombs was just annoying though.
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Jun 20, 2014 20:14
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noirstronaut posted:I don't want to revive this discussion, but I think his point was that gaming consoles today have a standard of how to use them. The Wii broke that mold (and inspired the Kinect, Move etc etc) and he didn't like that he had to learn how to play it. For example, take the 7th gen out entirely and you can easily see one person jumping from one console to the next with the only barrier needing to know what buttons do what. Right. An it's not so much that I didn't like it, as I didn't have a Wii and only played it minimally, I just don't think it's a meaningful statement to tell someone who obviously has been playing games for a long time (since they are posting in a forum dedicated to games) that their issue with the motion controls weren't with the motion controls, but that they were "not playing correctly". If a person who is very familiar with videogames can play your console so incorrectly to be arduous, the problem is that your console can be played incorrectly and not with the experienced gamer that is "playing incorrectly". Basically, if an experienced gamer can "play incorrectly", the issue is with the designers, not the player. Fremry fucked around with this message at 20:22 on Jun 20, 2014 |
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Jun 20, 2014 20:20
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Fremry posted:Right. An it's not so much that I didn't like it, as I didn't have a Wii and only played it minimally, I just don't think it's a meaningful statement to tell someone who obviously has been playing games for a long time (since they are posting in a forum dedicated to games) that their issue with the motion controls weren't with the motion controls, but that they were "not playing correctly". If a person who is very familiar with videogames can play your console so incorrectly to be arduous, the problem is that your console can be played incorrectly and not with the experienced gamer that is "playing incorrectly".
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Jun 20, 2014 20:54
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http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/20/us-philips-nintendo-lawsuit-idUSKBN0EV17820140620 gently caress. There goes that reserve of billions from the Wii.
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Jun 20, 2014 21:01
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Man, Nintendo's legal team has been on the downturn recently.
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Jun 20, 2014 21:07
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homeless snail posted:I've got to say, that's an incredibly stupid argument. There are plenty of great games that can't be easily intuited without doing some research. Ultimately your line of thinking ends in 2 hour long tutorials in Zelda games and we don't want that. It wasn't that the motion controls didn't work, it's that I didn't want to hold my arms out and wave them around for 3 hours of Metroid Prime and I was told I was doing it wrong and I should just rest my hands on my lap and just flick my wrists. So pretty much people found a way to make the intended mechanics to be simple and I just hadn't caught on.
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Jun 20, 2014 21:07
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Raserys posted:Man, Nintendo's legal team has been on the downturn recently. Actually they won a lawsuit against the dumbass patent troll company the other week so they win some and lose some. Kinda curious why the UK location of Phillips won but the US branch didn't? Is that where their headquarters is located?
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Jun 20, 2014 21:09
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Minidust posted:Secret exits aren't really a thing in 3D World. The "New" Super Mario games have them, and are closer in spirit to SMW. NSMB gets a bad rap around here in my opinion, although I'd still concede that SM3DW is the better game overall. 
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Jun 20, 2014 21:10
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m.hache posted:It wasn't that the motion controls didn't work, it's that I didn't want to hold my arms out and wave them around for 3 hours of Metroid Prime and I was told I was doing it wrong and I should just rest my hands on my lap and just flick my wrists. So pretty much people found a way to make the intended mechanics to be simple and I just hadn't caught on. Dude go for a run or something.
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Jun 20, 2014 21:13
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Austrian mook posted:Dude go for a run or something. I'm quite active, thanks for caring.
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Jun 20, 2014 21:16
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SeANMcBAY posted:The final level in 3D World is harder then anything in Galaxy 1 or 2. The Perfect Run is a bit harder IMO, because you can't cheese your way through it with multiplayer like in 3D World. But to eat their own. The Monarch posted:"Shake" to do a thing is really, really dumb. I can definitely see little kids enjoying it but I don't really believe people when they say they prefer that to pressing a button. It's the exact same function as a button, but you have to shake your controller around like a spaz to hit it. That shake to do the float at the end of a jump in NSMB feels really natural, and I find myself doing it when I went back and played the other games.
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Jun 20, 2014 21:16
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m.hache posted:It wasn't that the motion controls didn't work, it's that I didn't want to hold my arms out and wave them around for 3 hours of Metroid Prime and I was told I was doing it wrong and I should just rest my hands on my lap and just flick my wrists. So pretty much people found a way to make the intended mechanics to be simple and I just hadn't caught on. How in the hell did you not think to rest your hands in the most comfortable position possible? The commercials had them standing up and waving their arms around, but it didn't mean you needed to. 
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Jun 20, 2014 21:16
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m.hache posted:I'm quite active, thanks for caring. FYI every time somebody on SA says this they end up not being attractive.
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Jun 20, 2014 21:17
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LaserBaconMan posted:How in the hell did you not think to rest your hands in the most comfortable position possible? The commercials had them standing up and waving their arms around, but it didn't mean you needed to. I mentioned earlier that my old setup had me sitting below the TV line so I had to raise my arms up to hit the Wii Bar. Louisgod posted:FYI every time somebody on SA says this they end up not being attractive. Probably accurate.
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Jun 20, 2014 21:19
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ChaosArgate posted:If you're willing to wait til Sunday and you're in the US, Target's selling that bundle (we're talking about the one that comes with Mario U and Luigi U, right?) for $275. It's also Buy 2 get 1 free for all Wii U games starting then and the whole deal goes for a week. Also, if you're unwilling to wait, you can buy the console from Target right now and then bring back the receipt on Sunday (well anytime within 7 days of purchase) and get the $25 credit.
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Jun 20, 2014 21:19
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LaserBaconMan posted:How in the hell did you not think to rest your hands in the most comfortable position possible? The commercials had them standing up and waving their arms around, but it didn't mean you needed to. I might be making this up but I think I remember a commerical or E3 trailer for Metroid Prime 3 where the guy actually curled up into a ball to go into morph ball mode
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Jun 20, 2014 21:30
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Help Im Alive posted:I might be making this up but I think I remember a commerical or E3 trailer for Metroid Prime 3 where the guy actually curled up into a ball to go into morph ball mode You arent making it up, youre merging memories. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-K4MbNFN7ws&t=10s
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Jun 20, 2014 21:34
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HolePisser1982 posted:Also, if you're unwilling to wait, you can buy the console from Target right now and then bring back the receipt on Sunday (well anytime within 7 days of purchase) and get the $25 credit. Not gonna work, they're in Canada. m.hache posted:I mentioned earlier that my old setup had me sitting below the TV line so I had to raise my arms up to hit the Wii Bar. I take it you never realized you could have moved the sensor bar to anywhere you would've wanted to make it more comfortable? Doing that might lead to you aiming at somewhere that's not your TV, but it's a thing you'd probably get used to quickly.
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Jun 20, 2014 21:35
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ChaosArgate posted:I take it you never realized you could have moved the sensor bar to anywhere you would've wanted to make it more comfortable? Doing that might lead to you aiming at somewhere that's not your TV, but it's a thing you'd probably get used to quickly. For a long time I kept my sensor bar several shelves below my TV, it was super comfy.
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Jun 20, 2014 21:36
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Gutcruncher posted:You arent making it up, youre merging memories. I found it! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=irDcKlG8z4g
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Jun 20, 2014 21:40
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Super Mario Bros was the first game I remember and I loved it, can you imagine one of your first games being Lego City Undercover? Lucky kid!Grandpa Goodtimes posted:Loving Pikmin 3. I wish they would update the original 2 for the touch screen, because this game is super and I want more. This goes for anyone who enjoyed Pikmin 3, get Little King's Story for Wii. Same type of gameplay and a lot more depth.
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Jun 20, 2014 21:41
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Gutcruncher posted:You arent making it up, youre merging memories. EDIT: ^^^^ beaten by a few posts. ahhahaha, glad to see that again, it was even sillier than I remembered it
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Jun 20, 2014 21:43
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F. Lobot posted:http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/20/us-philips-nintendo-lawsuit-idUSKBN0EV17820140620 Gotta love how vague patents have become that making vague gestures or pointing at a screen is considered patentable
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Jun 20, 2014 21:55
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Dr. VooDoo posted:Gotta love how vague patents have become that making vague gestures or pointing at a screen is considered patentable And how the Wii is what, 8 years old at this point? Did they just suddenly realize 6 or 7 years later that oh yeah, we patented that!
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Jun 20, 2014 21:57
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Louisgod posted:And how the Wii is what, 8 years old at this point? Did they just suddenly realize 6 or 7 years later that oh yeah, we patented that! They could have jumped on this much sooner, and been tied up in litigation for years and years. That's generally how it works, from my limited knowledge of these things. I mean, does anything ever go through the courts quickly?
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Jun 20, 2014 21:58
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Hahaha thats amazing. How does that even work?!
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Jun 20, 2014 22:02
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One of the best parts of BLOPS2 on the WiiU is the option to play an HD Wii FPS. Too bad it didn't sell at all, releasing COD weeks late made sure it was dead in the water. I guess TDM forever was fun.
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Jun 20, 2014 22:04
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So I just bought my Wii yesterday. Have some questions on the Gold/Platinum Club Nintendo stuff. If I wait until the 1st to get all my coins, that means I won't get any free games until Summer 2015 for being Platinum, right ? But if I start redeeming now, I'd need to hit 300/600 by the end of the month? I want free games sooner rather than later! But so far I've only bought the System (Refurb), MK8, Monster Hunter, and Mario 3D World. I'm guessing it'd be hard as gently caress to hit Platinum in the next week.
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Jun 20, 2014 22:19
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jsr v2.0 posted:So I just bought my Wii yesterday. Have some questions on the Gold/Platinum Club Nintendo stuff. You won't get the platinum rewards until summer 2015, but you can still redeem coins for games along the way. So, if you wait til the 1st to get all your coins, you can start redeeming them for games immediately - Platinum counts coins registered, not coins unspent. Platinum rewards are usually physical, like a poster or soundtrack CD.
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Jun 20, 2014 22:21
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F. Lobot posted:http://www.reuters.com/article/2014/06/20/us-philips-nintendo-lawsuit-idUSKBN0EV17820140620 Not really. This case is still stupid as hell, though.
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Jun 20, 2014 22:44
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burger time posted:You won't get the platinum rewards until summer 2015, but you can still redeem coins for games along the way. So, if you wait til the 1st to get all your coins, you can start redeeming them for games immediately - Platinum counts coins registered, not coins unspent. Gotcha, thanks. So I'm pretty sure if I got to Gold before the end of the month for the rewards, I'd easily hit Gold for next year anyway. So basically, I think I'll just make sure I hit gold by EOM. Actually - registering games/consoles, how many coins do they tend to be worth?
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Jun 20, 2014 22:47
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Bobnumerotres posted:One of the best parts of BLOPS2 on the WiiU is the option to play an HD Wii FPS. Too bad it didn't sell at all, releasing COD weeks late made sure it was dead in the water. I guess TDM forever was fun. What are the populations for the CoD games like on the system these days? I'm finding the idea of playing shootmans on the gamepad very appealing. More interested in BLOPS2 really.
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Jun 20, 2014 23:42
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Is there a reason that Black Ops II reviewed a lot better than Ghosts on the Wii U?
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Jun 20, 2014 23:56
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Spacebump posted:Is there a reason that Black Ops II reviewed a lot better than Ghosts on the Wii U? I think Ghosts just got pretty mixed reviews in general since it's really just more of the same (This applies to basically all of the CoD games since MW2 but critics only figured it out recently I guess) Black Ops 2 plays great on Wii U though. Playing on the gamepad was neat and it was nice to see that the Wii U can actually do online. I dunno if anyone's still playing it though
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Jun 21, 2014 00:01
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Yeah Black Ops II was reviewed better than Ghost across all versions afaik.
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Jun 21, 2014 00:03
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Ghosts was particularly garbage even for a CoD game. Bad maps, no one liked the few new mechanics they added, single player campaign was horrible.
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