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FishBulb posted:Holy loving poo poo is that why they're like that? I just assumed they were too cheap to buy scanners and modern inventorying technology. That is what they say on the website, yes. But anecdotal reports (which, from my light googling, come from loving everywhere) suggest otherwise.
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FishBulb posted:Holy loving poo poo is that why they're like that? I just assumed they were too cheap to buy scanners and modern inventorying technology. No, the Green family really are evangelical loonies, though oddly enough not ones that cared quuuuuuite enough as to divest their retirement portfolios from mutual funds including the very companies that manufacture the birth control methods that so offend their religious sensibilities.
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FishBulb posted:Holy loving poo poo is that why they're like that? I just assumed they were too cheap to buy scanners and modern inventorying technology. Which would be nuts anyways, because scanners and barcodes save a massive amount of money if you are running any store larger than a tiny bodega that's really just a front for your weed business.
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Jul 1, 2014 22:37
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Poopy Palpy posted:The owners company are willing to pay extra for all the labor it takes to avoid barcodes, which they believe to be the Mark of the Beast. What the gently caress, I didn't know people actually believed all the crap from that S.O.S. musical, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. (By the way, that video I linked is seriously great stuff.)
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Jul 1, 2014 22:39
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Captain_Maclaine posted:No, the Green family really are evangelical loonies, though oddly enough not ones that cared quuuuuuite enough as to divest their retirement portfolios from mutual funds including the very companies that manufacture the birth control methods that so offend their religious sensibilities. This sort of hypocrisy gets brought up every now and then, but often it's because the wealthy people in question have no idea how investment portfolios work and leave all of it to third parties. The moral hazard associated probably never occurred to them.
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Jul 1, 2014 22:46
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Discendo Vox posted:This sort of hypocrisy gets brought up every now and then, but often it's because the wealthy people in question have no idea how investment portfolios work and leave all of it to third parties. The moral hazard associated probably never occurred to them. Considering how ably they've micromanaged their idea of Jesus into so many other aspects of their business, sometimes to their own disadvantage, you'd think they'd have bothered to learn.
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Jul 1, 2014 22:47
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Captain_Maclaine posted:Considering how ably they've micromanaged their idea of Jesus into so many other aspects of their business, sometimes to their own disadvantage, you'd think they'd have bothered to learn. Why? They didn't even bother to read their own insurance plan or they would have noticed it covered those satanic pills before the ACA mandate was released. ...And then the lawsuit wouldn't have happened because their old plan would have been grandfathered in.
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Jul 1, 2014 23:09
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The Hobby Lobby owners aren't the true villains in all this, as objectionable as I may find their views. It's the sophisticated group of political actors who persuaded them and manipulated them into an effective test case to advance a longer term legal and political agenda that really deserve our collective derision and fear.
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Jul 1, 2014 23:17
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Which is what the E N O S cartoon is saying: the GOP is using Hobby Lobby/Religion to (further) oppress women.
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Jul 1, 2014 23:34
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e_angst posted:Which would be nuts anyways, because scanners and barcodes save a massive amount of money if you are running any store larger than a tiny bodega that's really just a front for your weed business. Yeah but sometimes convincing buisiness owners to spend a lot of money on savings down the line is hard.
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Discendo Vox posted:The Hobby Lobby owners aren't the true villains in all this, as objectionable as I may find their views. It's the sophisticated group of political actors who persuaded them and manipulated them into an effective test case to advance a longer term legal and political agenda that really deserve our collective derision and fear. Looking for "the true villains" is almost always an exercise in futility, because at some point it hits a loop that can't resolve. Hobby Lobby decided to take this to court, and until they say otherwise we should not assume that they were acting under anything other than their own free will. And are therefore shithead crazies. I definitely agree that there are other actors in this, but Hobby Lobby is definitely the villain in this particular case.
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Discendo Vox posted:The Hobby Lobby owners aren't the true villains in all this, as objectionable as I may find their views. It's the sophisticated group of political actors who persuaded them and manipulated them into an effective test case to advance a longer term legal and political agenda that really deserve our collective derision and fear. The family is a sophisticated group of political actors. They have a PAC, a chain of evangelical charter schools pushing very far right prosperity millenialism, regularly fund and attend events with The Family, and are currently working with David Barton on a set textbooks This is not Mr Burns convincing Ned Flanders and the Leftorium to bring suit. These people are up to their eyebrows in the poo poo and have been for years Fried Chicken fucked around with this message at 00:26 on Jul 2, 2014 |
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Jul 2, 2014 00:00
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Fried Chicken posted:The family is a sophisticated group of political actors. They have a PAC, a chain of evangelical charter schools pushing very far right prosperity millenialism, regularly find and attend events with The Family, and are currently working with David Barton on a set textbooks I don't doubt that they have reprehensible beliefs, but the real problem is going to be the people who work with legal, financial and social systems to propogate their beliefs. They're not the people who pleaded their case, or designed their charter systems, or wrote their textbooks. The people that the family hires to do this, who simultaneously are used by and use them, are the real destructive instruments in this affair, because they are the ones capable of actually producing the harms in question, and because they will now move from this group to another set of clients, another set of donors, another set of test case plaintiffs- which was the plan all along. I can't identify the actors in this case, but to analogize, in the context of food and drug regulation, the problem isn't really POM Wonderful or Pfizer, it's the Washington Legal Foundation, Rich Berman and PhRMA. There will always be wealthy people with bad ideas. The problem is the people who help them make those ideas real.
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Discendo Vox posted:I'd love it if a Muslim lobbying group actually organized itself around this principle. Imagine sending CNN badly made video of your spiritual leader rollerblading while wearing venetian blind sunglasses. Commissioning Lisa Frank to make a really snazzy cover for your group's Korans. Threatening to send a group of your agents to infiltrate the crowd at Muscle City on the anniversary of 9/11 and shred some massive waves. Release a manifesto that's also a poorly conceived anti-drug PSA. Islamic Pog competitions. Halal Ecto-cooler and Fruit by the Foot. Where do I sign up for this version of Radical Islam and how do I wage jihad on its behalf? gently caress, the NSA's here.
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Discendo Vox posted:e from this group to another set of clients, another set of donors, another set of test case plaintiffs- which was the plan all along. I can't identify the actors in this case, but to analogize, in the context of food and drug regulation, the problem isn't really POM Wonderful or Pfizer, it's the Washington Legal Foundation, Rich Berman and PhRMA. There will always be wealthy people with bad ideas. The problem is the people who help them make those ideas real. Rick Berman? He ruined this too?!  
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Jul 2, 2014 00:20
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Rick Berman's a pretty good example of the layer of human scum that profits from political engineering. He's completely mercenary and will manipulate public opinion and distort evidence for any side, good or bad. In the process he distorts and damages the institutions of government and public discourse. Ironically, Berman is actually one of the least competent of this sort of actor, as indicated by the fact that we actually know who he is. Most of these people are sophisticated enough that it's hard to even tell they're at work, let alone who they are. edit: oh. No, not that Rick Berman. This one is known for blocking tobacco regulation, attempting to turn the public against MADD, block drunk driving regs, and a huge number of other things. He's a good example of the mercenary infighting that occurs at the level of lobbying and public manipulation- he's represented both sides of internal fights between different industry groups waged in the court of public opinion, like the current HFCS controversies. For a legal example of this, the Washington Legal Foundation has been waging a multi-decade effort to completely dismantle the FDA- and they're really, really good at it. They've been involved in almost every major terrible legal outcome in Food and Drug law in the US. They're able to do this because after each case they know which kind of client and which ideology they will need to enlist to get the results they need. Nobody knows exactly who funds them, and it doesn't seem to be consistent- even big pharma thinks they go too far with some cases. The important part is that they are the ones with the skills and knowhow to have these negative effects. People who can actually make these legal arguments or destroy the public discussion of an issue are the threat, not the people who sign their checks. Discendo Vox fucked around with this message at 00:36 on Jul 2, 2014 |
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Jul 2, 2014 00:29
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RyokoTK posted:What the gently caress, I didn't know people actually believed all the crap from that S.O.S. musical, but I guess I shouldn't be surprised. Seconding that S.O.S. is incredible, though I've got to say that this is, as far as I'm concerned, the best way to experience it.
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chairface posted:Where do I sign up for this version of Radical Islam and how do I wage jihad on its behalf? gently caress, the NSA's here.
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Nikaer Drekin posted:Seconding that S.O.S. is incredible, though I've got to say that this is, as far as I'm concerned, the best way to experience it. That's where I was introduced to it, even.  Seeing it in English is a real treat, though.
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Jul 2, 2014 01:35
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InequalityGodzilla posted:Conversion involves giving yourself to Allah and being able to do a perfect 360 kickflip. Start practicing. Ollie-hu Akbar.
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Jul 2, 2014 01:50
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All of these "Yeah, the Supreme Court owned you Obama  " cartoons are giving me flashbacks to when the supreme court upheld Obamacare and these same people denounced them as America-hating tyrants.
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Jul 2, 2014 01:58
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Fojar38 posted:All of these "Yeah, the Supreme Court owned you Obama Didn't John Stewart say something once to the tune of : "It's only political activism when they rule in favor of something I'm against." ?
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Jul 2, 2014 02:25
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Discendo Vox posted:(Rick Berman is an rear end in a top hat) His (quite estranged) son is David Berman of Silver Jews! :plaid shirt and guitar version of eng101:
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Jul 2, 2014 02:34
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Oh Secret Service, where are you?
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Jul 2, 2014 02:51
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quote:2016. The Treason Trials. EDIT: drat you're quick!
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Pththya-lyi posted:Oh Secret Service, where are you? Hahaha lookit this sad little man.
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Jul 2, 2014 02:52
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gently caress, his "2014-2015" bar is almost full.
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... Does Muir think that the firing squads bring their own guns from home to use on exicution days? 
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Jul 2, 2014 02:56
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I'm not sure this firing squad is "official."
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Jul 2, 2014 03:00
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It is gunna be pretty crazy when President Clinton tries Obama for treason though
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More like $30 if you're lucky enough to have a Planned Parenthood in town. Most places? $70 and above. Get hosed you lovely rear end in a top hat cartoonist that doesn't know what it's like to live in the very country he is published in. And birth control isn't magic, most women experience terrible side effects from it. Get fuuuuuucked.
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Pththya-lyi posted:Oh Secret Service, where are you? gently caress this poo poo, I have Asperger's and I can tell these people (and Muir) have no social skills at all. Who the hell brings up 0BUMMER COMMUFASCIST TYRANNY in the middle of saying goodbye to somebody 
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Post 9-11 User posted:More like $30 if you're lucky enough to have a Planned Parenthood in town. It's $9 for a month's supply after insurance
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So how many times is it that Muir has said "Hey, we could totally shoot the President (if he's found guilty of treason)"? Two, I think? At least two.
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Jul 2, 2014 03:16
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The year is 2016. Ted Cruz has won the election in a landslide after jumping a motorcycle over a line of 100 uninsured children. Well, eighty of them, anyway. President-elect Cruz, flexing a bicep repeatedly, vows to impeach, try, and execute Traitor Man Obama in his administration's first negative-100 days. Paul Ryan views the entire scene from beneath a sewer grating, along with the other RINOCHUDs.
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Jul 2, 2014 03:22
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A HUNGRY MOUTH posted:So how many times is it that Muir has said "Hey, we could totally shoot the President (if he's found guilty of treason)"? Two, I think? At least two. Far more than that. Obama "borrowing power" comes from nothing at all the man has said or done, but a vague threat from Sen. Durbin that Obama will "borrow the power he needs" to get something done if the House doesn't get off its rear end and do something, anything at all, about illegal immigration. I have no idea what he meant by that; some kind of executive order, maybe? To connect this to treasonous overuse of power is, to put it mildly, an overreaction.
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Does anyone have an average/median monthly medical insurance cost in the US? I need it for a very important facebook burn, but google gives me highly variable results.
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