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My brain says Rumble is red, but my heart says he's blue. What if.. what if Rumble's really the panther?
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Captain Invictus posted:He's the reason there's at least 150 solid pages of fascism chat in the Pacific Rim thread. The reason isn't SMG so much as goons getting really mad that people might like movies for more than toy lines and sequel hooks. Like if you're into that then whatever, I mean I know I'm in the Transformers thread, but don't get pissed at someone else if they're not.
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Jul 2, 2014 04:35
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Ugh this thread. So I got in iGear Starburst yesterday (F22 Raptor Generations Starscream) I've had a bad track record with IGear stuff. My Medical Specialist and Faith Leader both broke and their not-Gears figure kind of sucked. This figure, however, is amazing. Technically. The jet mode is perfect. The transformation is simple and intuitive, and the robot mode is gorgeous (the head is a bit weird but fine). It only suffers from some spotty qc - the left thigh is a bit loose resulting in minor floppy leg, and the red chest piece doesn't fully tab in properly. If those two minor points were addressed I'd wholeheartedly recommend this figure. However given that my Takara Starscream has a qc flaw with one of its launchers, I figure maybe I just got a bum copy. Compared to every other Generations Seeker out there though this thing kicks rear end. It looks great compared to Hegemon and Orion and finally gives you that sense from the IDW comics that Seekers are badass and big trouble. I've got the other two on the way, and I'm debating on getting the Coneheads. The Goon fucked around with this message at 04:46 on Jul 2, 2014 |
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Jul 2, 2014 04:42
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Would you say the proportions are better in hand than in pictures, or you simply never had a problem with them in the first place? Speaking of seekers, new thew thnew
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Jul 2, 2014 04:44
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Blackheart posted:Would you say the proportions are better in hand than in pictures, or you simply never had a problem with them in the first place? Honestly I never had a problem with the proportions. The hands are a bit skinny but don't look off when you have it in hand, especially since the forearms have a bit of jet mode panelling to bulk them up a bit. The null rays also help. Otherwise the robot mode is absolutely gorgeous. I just wish the face was less concave, as it gives it a bit of an Animated vibe, but not to a deal breaking level.
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Jul 2, 2014 04:50
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RIPFIP is the true answer. Rosanna Is Pinkish, Flipsides is Purpley.
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Jul 2, 2014 04:50
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SpikeMcclane posted:RIPFIP is the true answer. Rosanna Is Pinkish, Flipsides is Purpley. But then I had fantasies about that during the boring parts of that movie.
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Jul 2, 2014 04:57
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I always thought that Rumble was a grayish purplish guy. Never heard of Frenzy until I was an adult. Also I only ever saw the first couple episodes of the G1 cartoon.
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Jul 2, 2014 05:39
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Jesus, why was John Malkovich even in TF3? What a wast of a fantastic actor.
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Jul 2, 2014 06:10
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I honestly liked Turturro in the Transformers films. I don't know why it was but his sort of cartoony and campy persona worked better for me than anyone else who attempted the same thing. It's sort of a shame he's not back in the fourth one.
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Jul 2, 2014 06:24
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Rhyno posted:Jesus, why was John Malkovich even in TF3? What a wast of a fantastic actor. John Turturro, Steve Buscemi, John Goodman, Frances McDormand, etc. They all show up. It's not just the casting; The Island references Blood Simple's iconic knife scene, and Pain & Gain is constantly compared to Fargo. "I’m a huge Coen Brothers fan, and I’d love to find some dark, quirky comedy or some thriller. Nothing to do with special effects or explosions." -Michael Bay
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Jul 2, 2014 06:28
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Bay loves the Coen Bros. on tfwiki all of hound's picture captions are quotes from walter from the big lebowski.
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Jul 2, 2014 06:34
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http://www.tfw2005.com/transformers-news/featured-ebay-auctions-32/more-unreleased-g2-goodness-on-ebay-180586/ More Unreleased g2 molds have surfaced, this time the autorollers, One seriously looks like Breacher. Similar vehicle mode and very similar colorscheme and robot mode.
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Jul 2, 2014 07:23
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Rita Repulsa posted:on tfwiki all of hound's picture captions are quotes from walter from the big lebowski. Bay's films are much easier to approach if you take into account that he probably owns Burn After Reading on blu-ray.
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Jul 2, 2014 08:01
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SuperMechagodzilla posted:Bay's films are much easier to approach if you take into account that he probably owns Burn After Reading on blu-ray. I like to figure out which Bay films Christopher Nolan really likes based on movies the latter makes. Interstellar already reminds me of Armageddon.
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Jul 2, 2014 08:33
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You guys are all colorblind. Rumble is lavender.
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Jul 2, 2014 08:39
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Sesq posted:My brain says Rumble is red, but my heart says he's blue. 
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Jul 2, 2014 08:47
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Pretty sure Frenzy was silver in the movie guys.
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Jul 2, 2014 08:51
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The Taint Reaper posted:Pretty sure Frenzy was silver in the movie guys. He had blue eyes, despite being a Decepticon. There WAS a redeco of one of his toys with RED eyes, though.
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Jul 2, 2014 09:10
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Quick question: why the hell if TFwiki's article on movie optimus so entranced with him wanting faces?
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Anora posted:Quick question: why the hell if TFwiki's article on movie optimus so entranced with him wanting faces? Because Movie Optimus is, in fact, obsessed with faces. And it's hysterical.
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Jul 2, 2014 09:15
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It's why movie Lockdown has a literal gun-face.
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Jul 2, 2014 10:28
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Honestly one of my all time favourite lines ever quoted by any incarnation of Optimus Prime is "Give me your face". It's just so insane it's amazing.
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Jul 2, 2014 10:33
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The Goon posted:Honestly one of my all time favourite lines ever quoted by any incarnation of Optimus Prime is "Give me your face". I remember hearing once that Peter Cullen was asked to portray Optimus Prime on some comedy show (wanna say either Family Guy or Robot Chicken) but he turned them down saying that he wanted to preserve the integrity of the character. And then he goes and does Bayformers.
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Jul 2, 2014 13:47
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RaspberryCommie posted:I remember hearing once that Peter Cullen was asked to portray Optimus Prime on some comedy show (wanna say either Family Guy or Robot Chicken) but he turned them down saying that he wanted to preserve the integrity of the character. What's the Krusty the Clown quote? "They drove a dump truck of money up to my house! I'm not made of stone!"
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Jul 2, 2014 18:30
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He also voiced Optimus offering to help Eeyore get his vengeance. Just watched Peaugh's videos on KFC Cyclonus and Toyworld Swamper. I dunno who would ever want that Cyclonus unless it's for the cool targetmaster, but I still kinda like Swamper (wtf about his super happy face?). I wanna see FP's take on him though.
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Jul 2, 2014 20:33
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Blackheart posted:I dunno who would ever want that Cyclonus I've been leery of that thing ever since it was first announced. "Hey, do you want a version of the Hastak deluxe Cyclonus except more poorly proportioned and worse in every way? Well boy have we got a deal for you!" They might've been able to scrape up some more sales if they offered a one-horn IDW version but as it stands, he just looks really goofy at the moment.
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Jul 2, 2014 20:38
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Blackheart posted:He also voiced Optimus offering to help Eeyore get his vengeance. I used to have faith in FP but Mindwipe (and their enornous goddam delays-- how long has it been since they showed those sketches of their Skullcruncher?) really left me cold. Swamper might be in my future. I'd buy KFC Cyclonus for like $20 at Target, not $75 or whatever. There's one other TF property we've had some fairly thorough discussions of, and that's Beast Machines. It's unfortunate that terrible TF fiction tends to be more ripe for analysis. As great as BW/MTMTE are, they are pretty surface-level and there's not much to really dig into. The only exception I can think of is the early arcs of RID, and what it has to say about nation-building and the struggle between democracy and safety. But it doesn't take much heavy lifting to understand that "bombs in the bad guys heads" is the TF equivalent of "drone strikes".
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Jul 2, 2014 20:45
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Why cookie Rocket posted:There's one other TF property we've had some fairly thorough discussions of, and that's Beast Machines. Beast Machines is interesting to consider on the grand timeline of Transformers because while it does try to do a lot of fresh things with the canon and concepts underlying the franchise, it also commits the unforgivable sin of being unbelievably dull. The Bay movies, for all their numerous faults, are obnoxiously loud and overstimulating, which at least lends itself to being noticed (for good or ill), but BM was just flatly mediocre in the grand scheme of things. Which is a shame, really, because exploring the divide between the forward march of technology contrasted with the need to remain cognizant of one's biological heritage is fertile ground for fiction, but most transhumanist authors end up falling into the same traditional "oh we need both to move forward" escape clause and we're left with the Mass Effect 3 "everyone's a cyborg now" green ending.
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Jul 2, 2014 20:55
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Is Double dealer hard to find at retail? I found one at TRU just now.
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Jul 2, 2014 21:02
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Not at all, he's fairly common.
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3 posted:Which is a shame, really, because exploring the divide between the forward march of technology contrasted with the need to remain cognizant of one's biological heritage is fertile ground for fiction, but most transhumanist authors end up falling into the same traditional "oh we need both to move forward" escape clause and we're left with the Mass Effect 3 "everyone's a cyborg now" green ending. I absolutely agree. It also tried to have....?something?....to say about ecology, but didn't get much further than "plants are cool, kids". It would've been really interesting if it turned out that they did need to cast off the biological to truly progress as a species. They'd have to accept that Megatron was at least partially correct, they were in the wrong, there's nothing inherently advantageous about organic life, their god was incorrect, etc. Also, in spite of the great help I got from this thread, I cannot figure out my issue with AOE Hound. I'm posting pictures of what I'm looking at, sorry for wasting everyone's time with my dumbness but this is driving me nuts:   When the head is inserted this way, the grill is aligned properly, but the head-plate flops out when it's placed on a table wheels-down.   When it's jammed in there this way, the grill is aligned improperly, and it's pretty clear that what's holding it in is the friction of the rubber head on the plastic walls of the cavity, but at least it doesn't flop out. If there is a third way to do it, I just can't figure it out...
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Why cookie Rocket posted:I absolutely agree. It also tried to have....?something?....to say about ecology, but didn't get much further than "plants are cool, kids". It would've been really interesting if it turned out that they did need to cast off the biological to truly progress as a species. They'd have to accept that Megatron was at least partially correct, they were in the wrong, there's nothing inherently advantageous about organic life, their god was incorrect, etc. No, there's clearly just a plastic tolerance issue. The way you pictured is how it's supposed to be.
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Jul 2, 2014 21:13
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These are right, sounds like you got a bum copy. is his robot mode at least doing good fir you?
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Anora posted:These are right, sounds like you got a bum copy. is his robot mode at least doing good fir you? Oh, sure, it's fine, I just was hoping he wouldn't drag a part in vehicle mode. But there's plenty of otherwise awesome TFs that drag a part in vehicle mode. 
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Why cookie Rocket posted:Also, in spite of the great help I got from this thread, I cannot figure out my issue with AOE Hound. I'm posting pictures of what I'm looking at, sorry for wasting everyone's time with my dumbness but this is driving me nuts: As for your Beast Machines point it would be interesting if there was at least another viewpoint established. Or any viewpoints. I don't really remember any part of BMs explaining why Organics were good, bad, to be avoided, had been evolved past and needed to be re-adapted. It just came off as hippie dredge instead of an actual viewpoint. I swear Optimus was just like "Transformers is used to be organic!!!" and then "We must bring balance back to the force!" But then BMs is super boring and I don't want to re-watch it so maybe I'm remembering wrong.
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Spiderdrake posted:As for your Beast Machines point it would be interesting if there was at least another viewpoint established. Or any viewpoints. I don't really remember any part of BMs explaining why Organics were good, bad, to be avoided, had been evolved past and needed to be re-adapted. It just came off as hippie dredge instead of an actual viewpoint. I swear Optimus was just like "Transformers is used to be organic!!!" and then "We must bring balance back to the force!" No, you're not wrong. This was a side effect of the basic premise of the show having been a rejected pitch for an eco-conscious show that Skir hammered the Beast Wars characters into, come hell or high water. The result was a lot of out of character behavior, including Megatron's sudden hatred for organic life, which had never been even hinted at before. As a stand-alone TF show it probably wouldn't have been nearly as reviled as it was, but you can't mess with established characters like that and not hit some serious backlash. Which is not even getting into the whole "G1 continuity ends with Cybertron becoming organic" firestorm.
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Jul 2, 2014 22:06
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It's a real shame that there isn't more thematically sound TF fiction, because the very basic image of a robot changing into a car is so innately charged and powerful that just looking at any given toy could give you plenty to work with, and I don't think a lot of writers, even good ones, entirely realise this. (A symptom of this is how you'll usually see Cybertronians hang out in robot mode 90% of the time in fiction, only transforming when the alt mode is required for some utilitarian purpose, treating it like an object of convenience, the way we would, rather than an innate part of their own being.) Like I'll admit I know nothing about Beast Machines, but something about what you're saying already kind of rubs me the wrong way - I understand wanting to make a point about conserving your heritage or whatever, but why would you illustrate it using a species that is inherently fluid and transitive? I mean that dissonance between their nature and the proposed moral stance could be pretty interesting, but then the whole angle of nature vs. technology becomes completely redundant and superfluous. A robot turning into a tank isn't that different from a robot turning into an ape when you get down to it, so why is that your central antagonist rather than, say, something that doesn't transform at all? Like, just a tank with no robot mode, trapped in an endless search for external, appropriated upgrades to surpass its organic counterparts with, frantic in its ambition yet static in its form. I dunno, guess that would be pretty weird.* I think the real problem is just that 30 years later, we've barely taken any steps to shed the whole dumb and primitive "good Autobots protect earth from evil Decepticons" thing. Binary *Animated actually came pretty close to doing something pretty cool with Megatron's immobile severed head, but of course they ditched that whole concept a season in so they could have him ineffectually lounge around on his evil throne instead.
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Terry van Feleday posted:I think the real problem is just that 30 years later, we've barely taken any steps to shed the whole dumb and primitive "good Autobots protect earth from evil Decepticons" thing. Well, we take steps, but for some reason we keep getting shoved back in the hole. Beast Wars won Emmys and was the second-highest-selling toy line of its day, but it's considered fairly niche (within the small niche of TF fandom) today, and TF TV is back to the G1 formula. I doubt that RID and MTMTE are as critically acclaimed or giant cash cows so the parallel isn't super-strong, but they both used to be pretty strong books before the wheel turned again and RID took a turn back to the established "good Autobots protect earth from evil Decepticons" formula. I would say it's cyclical, but it seems more like trying to escape from quicksand. Keldroc posted:No, you're not wrong. This was a side effect of the basic premise of the show having been a rejected pitch for an eco-conscious show that Skir hammered the Beast Wars characters into, come hell or high water. The result was a lot of out of character behavior, including Megatron's sudden hatred for organic life, which had never been even hinted at before. As a stand-alone TF show it probably wouldn't have been nearly as reviled as it was, but you can't mess with established characters like that and not hit some serious backlash. Which is not even getting into the whole "G1 continuity ends with Cybertron becoming organic" firestorm. I could've gotten over the way that the characters got messed with if it was in service of a good product. Preferably something actually subversive. The strongest message that the show put forward is that old South Park lambasting cliche, "the answer is somewhere in the middle guys". Why cookie Rocket fucked around with this message at 22:31 on Jul 2, 2014 |
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Blackheart posted:Not at all, he's fairly common. Cool, I'd never seen one and I thought I'd seen someone post about not being able to find him. And it looks like one of the three Targets here has screwed up their sale. It's supposed to be 5% off right? Not the $5 off I got on the MiniCon team. Sadly they fixed it so no more cheap TFs for me.
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