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Marco Rubio is a huge Pitbull fan.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 04:17 |
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:Personally when I went to Europe it confused the hell out of me when the term "liberal" suddenly meant "quasi-libertarian" in a good number of countries. In Australia, the Liberal Party is the name of our Republican Party. Many of your Democrats would be comfortable being members of that party. So I guess the name is pretty apt. Tokamak fucked around with this message at 04:20 on Jul 4, 2014 |
# ? Jul 4, 2014 04:18 |
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Tokamak posted:In Australia, the Liberal Party is the name of our Republican Party. Isn't it technically the Liberal-National coalition or The Coalition?
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 04:19 |
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I guess the "milquetoast centrist" flavour of liberal would fit well in the LibDems. And yeah, if Obama were Canadian or British, what are the odds that he'd be a Tory?
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 04:21 |
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ThirdPartyView posted:Isn't it technically the Liberal-National coalition or The Coalition? They are separate parties in most states afaik. I know they merged in Queensland (our South). The Coalition is the catch-all term for Liberals and Nationals, as the Nationals are essentially the Liberal Country Party.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 04:22 |
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I have never heard a Pitbull song that I'm aware of and my only recollection of him is that time the internet forced him to play a concert at a Walmart in nowhere Alaska, but I have this impression of his target market overlapping heavily with Kid Rock.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 04:23 |
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There's only one Pitbull I'm interested in and it's DJ Sany Pitbull https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5SKa6kgPu6E (kidding, Pitbull's OK)
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 04:23 |
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Jerry Manderbilt posted:I guess the "milquetoast centrist" flavour of liberal would fit well in the LibDems. And yeah, if Obama were Canadian or British, what are the odds that he'd be a Tory? 100%
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 04:24 |
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ReindeerF posted:I have never heard a Pitbull song that I'm aware of and my only recollection of him is that time the internet forced him to play a concert at a Walmart in nowhere Alaska, but I have this impression of his target market overlapping heavily with Kid Rock. Great, now I have the lovely Romney campaign song that Kid Rock made stuck in my head.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 04:25 |
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The OP of the current Auspol thread has a really good rundown of the main political parties in Australia, and I found it both enlightening and entertaining. http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3646846 They have an actual functioning multi-party system, with Senators from 9 different parties, including one from the "Australian Motoring Enthusiasts Party."
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 04:28 |
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ReindeerF posted:I have never heard a Pitbull song that I'm aware of and my only recollection of him is that time the internet forced him to play a concert at a Walmart in nowhere Alaska, but I have this impression of his target market overlapping heavily with Kid Rock. He was really cool about that though, or at least sufficiently acted like he was cool about it. ReindeerF posted:I have never heard a Pitbull song that I'm aware of and my only recollection of him is that time the internet forced him to play a concert at a Walmart in nowhere Alaska, but I have this impression of his target market overlapping heavily with Kid Rock. I don't know, maybe? I've seen a fair number of Kid Rock fans that I doubt listen to Pitbull. Kid Rock has that angry white male thing going on.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 04:29 |
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Say what you will about Kid Rock, but his cruise sure sounds like a lot of fun.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 04:39 |
Jerry Manderbilt posted:Personally when I went to Europe it confused the hell out of me when the term "liberal" suddenly meant "quasi-libertarian" in a good number of countries. it's usually the more philosophically and historically accurate construction of the term, in fact! To vastly oversimplify, Liberalism was originally the term for a bunch of philosophies built on individually oriented universal deonotological rights systems, quite primitive ones at first. These were some of the foundational philosophies that got us to the modern era of republicanism, but it turns out (shocker) that building a society around an absolute, fundamental and God-given right to personal property that supersedes all other things has a tendency to make people kill each other.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 04:48 |
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Discendo Vox posted:it's usually the more philosophically and historically accurate construction of the term, in fact! To vastly oversimplify, Liberalism was originally the term for a bunch of philosophies built on individually oriented universal deonotological rights systems, quite primitive ones at first. These were some of the foundational philosophies that got us to the modern era of republicanism, but it turns out (shocker) that building a society around an absolute, fundamental and God-given right to personal property that supersedes all other things has a tendency to make people kill each other. That actually has a much more meaningful definition than the "anything that isn't a raging far-right reactionary" meaning it seems to have here.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 04:49 |
Note the "extremely oversimplified" part, though. I can't give you a full history of philosophical liberalism, but the wikipedia page looks to be very good aside from the very top of the article. Here's the definition/etymology section:"wikipedia posted:Words such as liberal, liberty, libertarian, and libertine all trace their history to the Latin liber, which means "free". One of the first recorded instances of the word liberal occurs in 1375, when it was used to describe the liberal arts in the context of an education desirable for a free-born man. The word's early connection with the classical education of a medieval university soon gave way to a proliferation of different denotations and connotations. Liberal could refer to "free in bestowing" as early as 1387, "made without stint" in 1433, "freely permitted" in 1530, and "free from restraint"—often as a pejorative remark—in the 16th and the 17th centuries. In 16th century England, liberal could have positive or negative attributes in referring to someone's generosity or indiscretion.[13] In Much Ado About Nothing, Shakespeare wrote of "a liberal villaine" who "hath...confest his vile encounters". With the rise of the Enlightenment, the word acquired decisively more positive undertones, being defined as "free from narrow prejudice" in 1781 and "free from bigotry" in 1823. In 1815, the first use of the word liberalism appeared in English. By the middle of the 19th century, liberal started to be used as a politicised term for parties and movements all over the world. Boiled down, you could say Liberalism is a big tent for all ARE FREEDUHMS arguments, with all the rhetorical power and political/practical problems that that entails.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 04:58 |
The NZ centre-right National Party was formed from a coalition of United (liberals) and Reform (conservatives), which were the two big parties before Labour came on the scene
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 05:06 |
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ReindeerF posted:I have never heard a Pitbull song that I'm aware of You have, you just don't know it. His whole thing is to take popular songs and rap a couple lines over them. It's fairly clever how successful he is vs how little effort he puts into it.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 05:25 |
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Doughbaron posted:SCOTUS legalized virtual and drawn CP in Ashcroft v. Free Speech Coalition I believe, so Japan isn't the only country to be ashamed of here. Most countries have it legal, but usable as additional evidence against someone who already has actual child pornogrpahy or has been caught actually molesting children. This was used recently for some school teacher in Idaho who had download real child porn but erased it, and was suspected of molesting his students; and he was nailed on the vast amount of drawn stuff he had as well the fact ISP logs showed he had also access real stuff at similar times.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 05:41 |
SedanChair posted:There's only one Pitbull I'm interested in and it's DJ Sany Pitbull i prefer jungle personally https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jQRuHy21dQ0
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 05:58 |
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Speaking of Murrieta one of my friends is from there and is back there for the weekend. He tripped on the "uneven sidewalk" and got this nasty scrape on his knee. Hooray, exurbia!
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 06:08 |
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XyloJW posted:The OP of the current Auspol thread has a really good rundown of the main political parties in Australia, and I found it both enlightening and entertaining. Ricky Muir also comes off as cartoonishly bumbling in interviews, and whenever i hear or see his name i get run dmcs tricky stuck in my head
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 06:28 |
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Holy poo poo I can't believe you people had a multi-page discussion about Belgian things and not a single person mentioned Tintin. Explain yourself, D&D chat thread.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 07:04 |
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Fister Roboto posted:Holy poo poo I can't believe you people had a multi-page discussion about Belgian things and not a single person mentioned Tintin. Explain yourself, D&D chat thread. A couple of people mentioned Tintin.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 07:12 |
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Well one person did anyway.Warcabbit posted:Herge is from Belgium. That's a thing, right? (Tintin. In this forum, most known for the Gingrich/In The Congo mashup.)
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 07:14 |
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"Timber" is a good Pitbull song imo.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 07:16 |
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XyloJW posted:The OP of the current Auspol thread has a really good rundown of the main political parties in Australia, and I found it both enlightening and entertaining. Wow, the Australian Motoring Enthusiasts Party turned out to be exactly what I thought it'd be. I wish more political parties would have such descriptive names.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 07:30 |
Swan Oat posted:"Timber" is a good Pitbull song imo. gross y'all should listen to reggaeton and other musica del sur especially seeing as it's world cup time https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lRWqYR3e7xE https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6BTjG-dhf5s&t=20s https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7zp1TbLFPp8&t=35s
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 07:32 |
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well maybe good was too far. it is a fun, and enjoyable song, to me.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 07:37 |
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I loving hate Pitbull
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 08:15 |
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tbp how do you feel, as a World Cup mod, about pitbull doing the wc song this year? Prior to this year my only familiarity with him was him rapping over some cheb khaled
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 09:22 |
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I only know Pitbull as that guy we sent to Alaska.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 09:24 |
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Thread has come full circle.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 10:13 |
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I like timber
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 10:18 |
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Starting to think that the Libertarians have a point about the advantages of rail travel.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 11:09 |
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rail travel does own a whole bunch. i like trains
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 11:23 |
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*stares right into your eyes* choo choo
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 11:27 |
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Being a Republican seems really gross, like wow. I'm also not entirely sure democracy works anymore. Sierra Nevada Torpedo makes problems disappear.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 11:48 |
Joementum posted:Starting to think that the Libertarians have a point about the advantages of rail travel. weird, they're all about the roads over here
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 11:58 |
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Exclamation Marx posted:weird, they're all about the roads over here They are here too, but they won that argument long, long ago.
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 12:41 |
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Our trains are already privatised and its poo poo so I dont think libertarians want to draw attention to that here. What is the deal with trains in the us are they private? National? Or is it a region by region thing?
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# ? Jul 4, 2014 13:10 |