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You never think about what a Volga would look like with a Cosworth front end but there you go.
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Snowdens Secret posted:Mercedes had a functioning car company behind it and grabbed Chrysler because they thought it was a bargain, then dumped it when it apparently wasn't. Marchionne is frantically trying to use Chrysler to make a crumbling Fiat stable. It is related. Not causation, but public transit exists as a fallback. in large parts of the states, it's simply not an option. Europe: can't afford a car, take the bus/train/bike America: Can't afford a car, get a 23% loan on one, and drive without insurance.
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Rhyno posted:The Hellcat says you are wrong sir. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lza2H-fj5Es
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Powershift posted:It is related. Not causation, but public transit exists as a fallback. in large parts of the states, it's simply not an option. (agreeing with you) There's also the stricter CO2 emission restrictions over there, which don't exist here because lol coal lobby.
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Preoptopus posted:You never think about what a Volga would look like with a Cosworth front end but there you go. Honest mistake, considering they are shaped almost identical and the main identifying aspect has been hosed with, but that was a 240. Dunno if that makes it better or worse.
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Throatwarbler posted:Yes， maybe it wasn't clear but that's not some ghetto hack repair, the bumpers are actually attached like that from the factory. The factory zipties broke off after about 18 months, the car is a MY 2011 and this is the second set of new zipties. Just get them done during regular oil changes. Factory Zip Ties. Jesus.
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Jul 4, 2014 20:51
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Guys, new page, but Das Volk posted:The factory zipties
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Jul 4, 2014 20:56
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Post terrible car stuff in this thread: factory zip-ties
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Jul 4, 2014 21:00
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Have there ever been any decent cars made by a US/foreign merger or collaboration? Basically, not this:  Chrysler TC by Maserati
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Mister Kingdom posted:Have there ever been any decent cars made by a US/foreign merger or collaboration?  
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The Cobra didn't even occur to me. Who was the partner on the Jeep?
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Throatwarbler posted:factory zipties And I thought my mod to my Interceptor's bumper was half-assed. Pics not mine, I used the 1/2" zipties you get from A/C supply houses:   Stock, the bumper cover hangs down between the tailpipes and is subject to being ripped off when hopping a curb/whipping it across a median/etc., so traffic cops have taken to removing the brackets that hold the bottom edge and zip-tying it to the frame. It also looks nicer, so all us civvie Crown Vic owners do it, too. Mister Kingdom posted:Have there ever been any decent cars made by a US/foreign merger or collaboration?
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Bad Angus! Bad!
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Mister Kingdom posted:The Cobra didn't even occur to me. Who was the partner on the Jeep? Renault, I'm pretty certain they influenced the design though I'm not sure how far along AMC already was with the XJ when they got bought.
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High Protein posted:Renault, I'm pretty certain they influenced the design though I'm not sure how far along AMC already was with the XJ when they got bought. Also, the merger with Renault pretty much bankrupted AMC, leading to their being bought by Chrysler, who then did the same thing with Daimler. Edit: though if you include the foreign subsidiaries of the same company, we're getting some awesome Chevys now (and the last gasp of Pontiac a few years ago) that are rebadged Holdens (but still no El Camino, dammit), and all the new small Ford cars have been around for some time in Europe. VVV Dammit, that wasn't there when I started editing. Chillbro Baggins fucked around with this message at 22:06 on Jul 4, 2014 |
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Delivery McGee posted:Assuming third-party stuff with Ford engines like the Cobra and Pantera don't count, probably not. Yeah, and no rebadging, either.
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One possible candidate: they're still building '60s Jeep CJs in India, with awesome little diesels, but that's more a licensed production thing than a collaboration.
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Delivery McGee posted:Assuming third-party stuff with Ford engines like the Cobra and Pantera don't count, probably not. Yeah if you include US engines you're including a whole bunch of weird crap like the Jensen FF or Bristol cars, I'd call the Cobra more of a collaboration than those though. Delivery McGee posted:Also, the merger with Renault pretty much bankrupted AMC, leading to their being bought by Chrysler, who then did the same thing with Daimler. I think AMC was pretty much bankrupt even years before the Renault merger, the merger allowed them to bring the XJ to market which was their first actually new car in years. This article details Renault's involvement: http://www.curbsideclassic.com/curbside-classics-american/curbside-classic-1984-jeep-cherokee-amcs-greatest-hit-thanks-to-renault/
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Mister Kingdom posted:Have there ever been any decent cars made by a US/foreign merger or collaboration?      
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Hey, I can contribute to this thread! I see some awful stuff around Las Vegas quite often, but by the time I think to break out my phone, the vehicle in question is gone. But here are a couple! Click for bigger. This one is a big bad mudder, bro. Heavily street-worn offroad tires, shiny diff cover, double shocks with reservoirs on both ends of the rear axle, big exhaust tip, and what had to have been at least an eight inch hitch ball. You know, to match the size of the owner's.  This used to be a Geo Tracker. Parked at the North Las Vegas Justice Court.     Uthor posted:Are pickups with Lambo doors a thing now? Or is it an old truck and I missed the trend? Cause I just saw one. 
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You know, as far as "slathering your car with Bible verses" goes this is probably one of the less offensive choices out there and almost smacks of a higher calling. Of course if you are the sort of person who spray paints pieces of the Old Testament on your car it probably just means "ban homos" to you. Also the Bible is the most metal book 
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Is the whole car covered in bedliner?
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This confuses me, not the Bible verse, but did they glue / weld the hood shut?
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Solar Coaster posted:This confuses me, not the Bible verse, but did they glue / weld the hood shut? Gotta keep out the chemtrails, man.
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Stockholm syndrome cars don't count.
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You say 'geo tracker' and my brain says 'suzuki vitara'.
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The Chevy / Toyota partnership small cars were often the best cars at the time GM had to offer.
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 I had one of these once. It was a great reliable car that always gave me 35 miles per gallon. From wikipedia: quote:As the ZX2 used a Mazda platform, its appearance bears a strong visual appearance to the Japanese market only Autozam Clef, derived from the Mazda Cronos. That's right, bitches. I drove a rebadged   AUTOZAM CLEF Also I remember hearing something about the engine being sourced from mitsubishi, but I can't find any info on that right now.
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I always had a soft spot for the Ford Probe, rather than the MX-6 it was based on, despite being heavier. It always looked so futuristic and cool. I don't think I've seen one for about five years yet I still see MX-6's running around all the time. I can only assume that ford sucked everything good out of that platform and replaced it with fordness.
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Mazda's contribution to Ford was a good thing.
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CharlesM posted:Mazda's contribution to Ford was a good thing. Yeah it was amazing just how much of a step down the Escort (Euro) and Mondeo that replaced the Laser/Telstar (badge engineered 323/626) here were.
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I always wanted to test drive a V6 probe. I used to have an MX-3 and they're practically the same car but the Probe had a bigger V6.
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revmoo posted:I always wanted to test drive a V6 probe. I used to have an MX-3 and they're practically the same car but the Probe had a bigger V6. Pretty sure the Probes only came with the cruddy version of the V6 even in Japan
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dissss posted:Pretty sure the Probes only came with the cruddy version of the V6 even in Japan The difference between the KLDE and KLZE wasn't particularly huge, 20 or 30 horse IIRC. Significant, but not enough to write the DE off as cruddy. and in North America the Mazdas never had the ZE either so for us the primary difference between Probe and MX6 is looks. fakeaccount posted:Also I remember hearing something about the engine being sourced from mitsubishi, but I can't find any info on that right now. Turbo Fondant fucked around with this message at 15:20 on Jul 5, 2014 |
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Slavvy posted:I always had a soft spot for the Ford Probe, rather than the MX-6 it was based on, despite being heavier. It always looked so futuristic and cool. I don't think I've seen one for about five years yet I still see MX-6's running around all the time. I can only assume that ford sucked everything good out of that platform and replaced it with fordness. I actually saw a Probe that looked showroom new the other day at the grocery store, hadn't seen one for a year or two before that
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revmoo posted:I always wanted to test drive a V6 probe. I used to have an MX-3 and they're practically the same car but the Probe had a bigger V6. every other car had a bigger V6 than the MX-3
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PCOS Bill posted:I actually saw a Probe that looked showroom new the other day at the grocery store, hadn't seen one for a year or two before that That's quite a find - up in the northwest the only ones I've ever seen are either riced to death or horribly abused. I've always kind of liked the styling of them myself, too.
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I remember the 1st gen probe turbos being pretty quick despite only having something like 140hp. A friend had 2 and they were pretty cool for the early 90s
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Mister Kingdom posted:Have there ever been any decent cars made by a US/foreign merger or collaboration?  But I'm not sure if rebadges count. Throatwarbler posted:Well, I guess it was the dealer all along! We were going to get a Honda for the next vehicle but thanks to this thread my faith in Chrysler has been restored. Just get the Honda. You'll thank yourself shortly afterward and wonder why you even bought that POS Dodge in the first place. And this comes from someone with a tiny soft spot for Chrysler.
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We all have a soft spot for Chrysler. It's that area they punch repeatedly after tricking us into thinking they've reformed.
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