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Has negligent posted since the argument? I hope he's ok even though he's thick as two short planks.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:04 |
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# ? Jun 9, 2024 13:45 |
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He's still on probation.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:05 |
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Oh nvm he's on probation.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:06 |
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Those On My Left posted:He didn't saved it, he just kept the vote from being held until more debate has occurred. The enhancement is that the screen they use is so dense no one gets through.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:08 |
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Hypation posted:Procedural motions can be tricky: A vote on the motion to call a vote to repeal an act ... Ummm, yeah well I want No Carbon Tax - so I vote "nay". Apparently Muir has said he supports renewable energy, so it might not be this. On the other hand, if it WAS a mistake, nothing says we can't convince him to keep making it.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:09 |
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If he truly didn't understand what a motion was someone would have explained it to him. It sounds like Xenophon made his case and Muir bought it, and actually wants to do a good job. Like of all the people to play silly buggers and not pay attention in the senate, the non-professional politicians aren't my first bet. Fruity Gordo fucked around with this message at 06:14 on Jul 9, 2014 |
# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:11 |
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Hi I'm super lazy and can't find any quick info on cost of on- vs off-shore processing of refugees, can anyone help me out here?
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:11 |
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On shore bad, off shore worse. Community good.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:15 |
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hawaiian_robot posted:Hi I'm super lazy and can't find any quick info on cost of on- vs off-shore processing of refugees, can anyone help me out here? Graph is here: http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/05/07/budget-factbox-immigration-detention-centres
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:16 |
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Quantum Mechanic posted:Apparently Muir has said he supports renewable energy, so it might not be this. http://www.smh.com.au/federal-polit...0709-3bmqg.html Looks like he's still going to kill off the CT but now gets to keep the Australian Renewable Energy Agency (but supports cutting all its funding???).
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:19 |
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quote:"They gave me a phone to speak with someone I did not know," said Nilantha, a former shop owner. "I could not understand the language and the line was also very bad. I never had an opportunity to tell them what I wanted." He was a shop owner, therefore he can't have been poor or desperate or in any way vulnerable and as such is an economic migrant. (the above is sarcasm and/or represents an uninformed opinion.)
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:28 |
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Murodese posted:Graph is here: http://www.sbs.com.au/news/article/2014/05/07/budget-factbox-immigration-detention-centres Smegmatron posted:On shore bad, off shore worse.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:29 |
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Muir might just be a good case study in the benefits of getting actual poo poo throwers into Parliament, as opposed to those still throwing undergraduate level student politics poo poo decades after they left University. In other news, Emperor Barnett still a smug condescending grub: https://au.news.yahoo.com/thewest/a/24414983/barnett-wa-grumpy-with-us/ quote:Premier Colin Barnett believes West Australians are grumpy with his Government after a luckless period in which "relatively insignificant" issues have accumulated to cause him political headaches. He'd take out the prize for it, were not not for Tim "Most Punchable Face Ever" Wilson.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:31 |
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Let's note something here. My wife works at a motel. It's fairly nice for a small town motel, all things considered. You get your own shower and bathroom, TV, your own bed and 1 meal a day, along with laundry and cleaning service. It costs $92/day to stay at this motel, depending on the room - $33,580 a year. You could literally put up more than ten asylum seekers at this motel for the cost of keeping one in offshore detention. Let me reiterate It costs ten times more to throw asylum seekers in offshore detention camps than it does to give them a room at a motel
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:33 |
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hawaiian_robot posted:tyvm! Ask them who contributes more to the economy; a taxpayer or a detainee. If they say refugees are dole bludgers then it's on them to prove it.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:38 |
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Quantum Mechanic posted:It costs ten times more to throw asylum seekers in offshore detention camps than it does to give them a room at a motel Yes, but it's the principle of the thing mate, they wouldn't be suffering if we put them in a motel, what kind of deterrent would that be to BOTES
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:42 |
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Smegmatron posted:Ask them who contributes more to the economy; a taxpayer or a detainee. Except the Aus govt doesn't allow refugees to gain work here and pay taxes. Because something something brown tide?
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:44 |
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Smegmatron posted:Ask them who contributes more to the economy; a taxpayer or a detainee.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:47 |
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hooman posted:Except the Aus govt doesn't allow refugees to gain work here and pay taxes. It isn't about the current situation. It's about using idiotic notions of economic rationalism to get racists to understand that they're racist and that's bad.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:50 |
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Mattjpwns posted:Muir might just be a good case study in the benefits of getting actual poo poo throwers into Parliament, as opposed to those still throwing undergraduate level student politics poo poo decades after they left University. It's almost as if consistently breaking promises and screwing over voters would have a negative effect on your popularity?? Surprising, I know.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 06:52 |
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Murodese posted:It's almost as if consistently breaking promises and screwing over voters would have a negative effect on your popularity?? But you guys, my vanity projects! Like the foreshore! TOURISM!!! *fucks over everything else*
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 07:08 |
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The Kwinana freeway travelling south has been in constant traffic jam around south street for a few years now. I can't help but feel Barnett is somewhat responsible for it.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 07:13 |
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Fruity Gordo posted:Has negligent posted since the argument? I hope he's ok even though he's thick as two short planks. Maybe he's IWC?
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 07:14 |
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Mad Katter posted:Warren Bebbington is a big free market worshiping baby having a tantrum because he can't have his free market deregulation cake and eat the government subsidies too. What kind of idiot would ever believe the Liberals cared about quality of education? Most of why this is bullshit has already been covered but many top universities actually require first year students to live on campus and buy meal plans. So even if you live in the same city as one of America's best universities you are still committing to at least two semesters of gouging based on room and board. It's funny too that they mentioned Carleton, since I applied to and was accepted there back when I was applying to college. I even got financial aid! But, even with the scholarship, out of state tuition at a public university of comparable (??? I thought so at the time anyway, who the hell knows) quality was still quite a bit cheaper, so I went there instead. That I didn't get a full ride is indicative that I come from a well off family but higher education costs in the US are such that unless you have gently caress off money, the cost of university is going to influence where you go. It's not a good system. Don't be like us. e: I think the school I went to required first and second year students to live on campus, so, hahaha it is massively dishonest to exclude room and board costs from how expensive higher education is
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 07:20 |
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We have become world leaders, champions! ... in recreational drug use. http://www.news.com.au/lifestyle/he...v-1226980456570
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 07:40 |
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Countdown to the big new war on drugs!
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 07:42 |
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Palmersaurus posted:Countdown to the big new war on drugs! ... until they realise that 3/4 of industry is on them and that productivity tanks without it, then it's industry subsidy time and people claiming their meth on tax. OPEN FOR BUSINESS!!!! NO, THAT DOESN'T INCLUDE YOU BUGS UNDER MY SKIN, GET OUT Mattjpwns fucked around with this message at 07:46 on Jul 9, 2014 |
# ? Jul 9, 2014 07:43 |
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Fruity Gordo posted:Has negligent posted since the argument? I hope he's ok even though he's thick as two short planks. I hope he killed himself because he is literal human filth.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 07:50 |
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Quantum Mechanic posted:
You probably have to slip a pretty hefty bribe to the manager in order to set up a no questions asked torture dungeon in a motel room though.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 07:52 |
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Les Affaires posted:Hanlon's razor also supports this. What about Helen Razer?
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 07:53 |
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Gough Suppressant posted:What about Helen Razer? Who gives a poo poo what she thinks? She doesn't know herself, she just coughs forth something vaguely controversial and subsides, her work done.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 08:03 |
Helen's Razor would be something like: "you shouldn't even worry about an explanation until you've read more books you stupid c@#&"
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 08:12 |
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Haters Objector posted:Helen's Razor would be something like: "you shouldn't even worry about an explanation until you've read more books you stupid c@#&" It would also need to name check Foucault or some poo poo
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 08:15 |
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quote:The immigration department was warned that self-harm among asylum seekers in detention – particularly on Christmas Island – had surged since the introduction of mandatory offshore resettlement and would continue to do so, Guardian Australia can reveal. Jesus christ. http://www.theguardian.com/world/2014/jul/09/self-harm-asylum-seekers-detention-surged-serco-report
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 08:26 |
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SadisTech posted:It would also need to name check Foucault or some poo poo and some obscure early 90s grunge band.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 08:27 |
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The current justification for cutting welfare, particularly the not paying of Newstart for six months, is that people are unemployed because they aren't trying hard enough to get a job. Therefore, the argument goes, if these unemployed people are Eva Cox at The Conversation posted:The welfare policy shift seems to be based on a more individualised view of unemployment rather than a social or structural analysis. The faults are seen as being on the supply side of labour, not with the lower demand for labour generally. Unemployment is assumed to be the result of problematic job seekers who fail to get a job and/or live disordered lives. Foundry Dancer fucked around with this message at 08:33 on Jul 9, 2014 |
# ? Jul 9, 2014 08:30 |
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Well since labor are going to support it there really isn't any opposition.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 08:32 |
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norp posted:Well since labor are going to support it there really isn't any opposition. What? Are Labor really supporting the welfare changes?!
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 08:35 |
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Amethyst posted:What? They don't want to look soft on welfare cheats.
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 08:36 |
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The only thing I can find is that they support cutting off youth allowance while students travel overseas
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# ? Jul 9, 2014 08:38 |