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Nichol posted:Sure but it makes a lot of sense, future space armies-wise. Even modern combat is almost exclusively contested at range, in comparison to mediaeval warfare (see: shooting less effective in whfb). And even so, melee units can be very effective, but fluff-wise consider the "reality" of a horde of works charging enough shooting to kill them all before they get into cc. Lots of orkses are going to get shredded. I can play Infinity if I want to just pew-pew at other future dudes (In fact, I do). 40k the sort of sci-fi that takes after Dune in that warfare has gone full circle and melee is actually a thing again. Hell, pretty much every HQ that is not Tau is a close-combat beast instead of an artillery officer or the guy with the heaviest projectile weapon. Going back to my little pro/cons list, it has big holes, granted. I forgot that assault can lock target units out of shooting, for instance, or that shooting lets you assess results of earlier shooting and commit more units, as someone pointed out. It's still a big gap, however, especially when you consider how much riskier and more resource-intensive assault is. Want your cc unit to make it there? You'll likely need an expensive assault vehicle, or a honking big unit to soak up losses. Shooty units just need a perch with good visibility and cover and they are pulling trigger from turn 1. That's also why I added Prescience as a plus to shooting and not so much to melee: firepower can benefit from it 5+ turns, as there'll pretty much always be target. Melee units will spend time in transit, inside transports, and might get to enjoy their re-rolls for one, maybe two turns each game, and that's if you managed to keep a psyker nearby, which is way easier to do with a ranged unit. Dropping this can of worms, though, has there been any info on the new 40k campaign supplement?
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Speckled Jim posted:I had planned on painting my predator chassis tonight, but since I knocked it over while the primer was wet and subsequently covered it in fingerprints, I finished up my bike squad instead. This is some really great painting that yellow looks perfect.
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Speckled Jim posted:I had planned on painting my predator chassis tonight, but since I knocked it over while the primer was wet and subsequently covered it in fingerprints, I finished up my bike squad instead. Well done on the Yellow. Incidently, what do you do to remove the fingerprints? Simple green, I assume. I have a couple models that I need to address this situation on.
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waah posted:When I look at SM lists and I realize that their model count for an entire army is less than the amount of boys I need for one good unit, I cry on the inside. 14 points per basic marine. 40 points per terminator. When you compare that to, what, 6 point boyz with choppaz and sluggaz?
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Does anyone happen to know if the new HQs in the Stormclaw box will be available separately once Stormclaw is sold out? VVV That's what I'm thinking. It should make them pretty sellable, and the boxed set a good money spinner to split and sell. Lungboy fucked around with this message at 19:39 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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Lungboy posted:Does anyone happen to know if the new HQs in the Stormclaw box will be available separately once Stormclaw is sold out? I'll venture a guess based on the AoBR and DV box sets and say probably not. The Interrogator-Chaplain, Company Master and Chaos Lord guys aren't available as-is. The whole 'limited edition' thing sells pretty well.
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A few of the guys at my FLGS have decided to give me one concession for Tyranids. Basically, they're letting me use Mycetic Spores again. However, rather than using the old codex rules, we used the rumor that was going to supposedly happen. In that you take a spore as wargear, it allows you to deep strike and reduce scatter, but it leaves no spore model behind. We pointed this at 35 points. I played three games over the last week using them and it seriously balanced them out. Being able to deep strike makes a huge difference in how the army operates. I still lost two of the three games, but the games were close and fun all three times. My list was: Hive Tyrant - Wings - 2x TL Devourers Hive Tyrant - Wings - 2x TL Devourers Termagant Brood - x15 - x15 devourers - mycetic spore Termagant Brood - x15 - x15 devourers - mycetic spore Venomthrope Brood - x2 venomthropes Zoanthrope Brood - x2 Zoanthropes - Mycetic Spore Zoanthrope Brood - x2 Zoanthropes - Mycetic Spore Carnifex - 2x TL Devourer - Adrenal Glands - Mycetic Spore Carnifex - 2x TL Devourer - Adrenal Glands - Mycetic Spore Carnifex - 2x TL Devourer - Adrenal Glands - Mycetic Spore Skysheild Landing Platform The platform and the zoanthropes were to keep the Hive Tyrants alive while they waited for the others to arrive. It was brutal and effective. It has cemented my opinion that the biggest hit that Tyranids took with their new codex was losing the spore.
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When is Forgeworld going to finally roll out Iron Warrior heads and torsos? Fists have them already, so it could be any day. I want to make sure I'm using the best heads and torsos for my sergeants, damnit.Speckled Jim posted:I had planned on painting my predator chassis tonight, but since I knocked it over while the primer was wet and subsequently covered it in fingerprints, I finished up my bike squad instead. I really like your yellow and your shading looks drat great. I bet it took forever with all the layers, but it looks really ace!
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koreban posted:Well done on the Yellow. Incidently, what do you do to remove the fingerprints? Simple green, I assume. I have a couple models that I need to address this situation on. I havnt had to do it before. Im thinking I'll let it dry then sand those ares with a very fine sandpaper. Could work and if it doesnt i can always strip it with somethng. So frustrating. The predator was one of the first models I got and I was saving it until id had some practice, so I could do a really good job. BULBASAUR posted:I really like your yellow and your shading looks drat great. I bet it took forever with all the layers, but it looks really ace! Speckled Jim fucked around with this message at 20:19 on Jul 11, 2014 |
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OneTrueBru posted:I thought it'd be sensible to assemble him after painting.
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Devlann Mud and I came up with the best idea for an Ork total conversion army: SEZ: Throw out the Warboss modelGlue the squig to his base. This is my Warlord gently caress you I have a power klaw. In my stomach.  SEZ: I ate da bossNow I's da boss A mangler squig with a klaw sticking out of the mouth SEZ: Warboss is still punching and krumpin' from inside the squigWill take a while before the stomach acid gits 'im Squig with a Big Mek arm sticking out of his mouth piloting a Gorkonaut Entire army of orks-eaten-by-squigs
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So a video for the Stormclaw Sanctus Reach set came out, and it has a shot in it where we can see what looks like the new industrial Realm of Battle boards that have been leaked and talked about here and there: Video is here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YqsrESScR0U And there's an explosion at the end that absolutely kills me, I love it.
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It really looks like he used a airbrush on the main body of the bikes then went over it with a light color of brown and then focused it in some parts. Am I correct on that? I don't airbrush but for people that do , do you prefer airbrushing or painting? Airbrushing seems you could get some interesting fades and colours that you wouldn't with brushing. Dunno how you'd airbrush something that is super small though.
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I have learned to love the airbrush. Especially if you have a simple scheme, you can get really striking results for very little painting time, even on small mans. Zenthial Priming is just cheating. ... but I end up taking forever because I have multiple colors with multiple stages- so I end up masking off lots of tiny bits which takes many hours when you are doing 15+ models
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Rapey Joe Stalin posted:What does the Ork Waagh! supplement give you over the basic codex? The main thing is the formations available, several of which are really good. The actual supplement itself is pretty lackluster.
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So I guess I'm fighting Horus this weekend, I'm using a few proxied models so what actually exists isnt an issue, but im trying to keep to the models I have. 30k goons, what would you change? 2500 HQ (305pts) Magos Prime (305pts) Abeyant (25pts), Archmagos Prime (35pts) (Relentless), Cortex Controller (15pts), Cyber-familiar (15pts), 2x Cyber-occularis (30pts), Djinn-skein (25pts), Graviton Imploder (25pts) Mastercraft a single weapon(5pts), Macrotek (20pts), Melta Bombs (5pts), Rad Grenades (10pts) Troops (905pts) Castellax Class Battle-Automata Maniple (315pts) Castellax (105pts) Darkfire Cannon (20pts) Castellax (105pts) Darkfire Cannon (20pts) Castellax (105pts) Darkfire Cannon (20pts) Castellax Class Battle-Automata Maniple (315pts) Castellax (105pts) Darkfire Cannon (20pts) Castellax (105pts) Darkfire Cannon (20pts) Castellax (105pts) Darkfire Cannon (20pts) Thallax Cohort (275pts) 2x Phased-Plasma Fusil (20pts), 6x Thallax (240pts) Elites (160pts) Tech-Priest Auxillia (160pts) 5x Heavy Bolter (75pts), 5x Servo-automata (25pts) Adept (35pts) Battlesmith Cortex Controller (15pts), Lacyraemarta (*) Heavy Support (1130pts) Krios Battle Tank Squadron (150pts) Krios (150pts) Upgrade to Krios Venator Tank Destroyer (25pts) Myrmidon Destructors (500pts) 4x Myrmidon Destructor (140pts),4x Graviton Imploder (140pts), Triaros Armoured Conveyor (135pts) Myrmidon Lord (35pts) Graviton Imploder (35pts) Thanatar Class Siege-automata Maniple (480pts) 2x Thanatar (480pts) Archmagos rides with the Destructors, float a cyber occularis near the thanatar and the other somewhere else (havnt decided yet)
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Hollismason posted:It really looks like he used a airbrush on the main body of the bikes then went over it with a light color of brown and then focused it in some parts. I have an airbrush but I'm still learning to use it. It's a completely different technique and I haven't mastered it in the same way as I have traditional brush work. That said I now airbrush the base coats but then do the rest with brushes. When I start painting tyranids I'm going to try airbrushing the lot. With the right pressure and the right airbrush you can target a very very small area.
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BULBASAUR posted:I have learned to love the airbrush. Especially if you have a simple scheme, you can get really striking results for very little painting time, even on small mans. Zenthial Priming is just cheating. The next time you're up here I'd like you to help me airbrush my titan.
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SRM posted:So a video for the Stormclaw Sanctus Reach set came out... Is there a price on this yet? If the box provides a decent enough discount on it, that will be pretty amazing. Just put together a bunch of little two player boxes with unique characters and go nuts! EDIT: It's 125... not too bad, but just out of my price range unless I can find someone who wants the wolves. EDIT2: The ork stuff alone comes out to 110. That's actually a pretty decent deal if you can flip the other half of the set! Buying everything by itself is 250ish! LordAba fucked around with this message at 01:31 on Jul 12, 2014 |
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It's really disappointing that Stormclaw is limited edition. Aww well, at least I know a guy that will take the Ork stuff.
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Hencoe posted:So I guess I'm fighting Horus this weekend, I'm using a few proxied models so what actually exists isnt an issue, but im trying to keep to the models I have. 30k goons, what would you change? Some random suggestions: 300 points for an HQ is way too expensive. In the land of 30k org chart, where you have 3 HQs and 4 elites and lots of high strength firepower, I’d probably get x2 150 point Magos Primes or the cheaper 75point Dominus. Basically you want to spread that sweet cortex controller love across the board. Rad Grenades are not worth it and Cyber-occularis should be taken on a unit that is marching up the board and not sitting back and shooting. If you can get a few cheap HQs to run in a mob of thralls screening your Castellax, that would be ideal. As for Castellax, those are better as face punchers and are great at killing marines- your main enemy- so I would probably drop the darkfirecannons and grab x2 flamers instead. If you want them to be shooty then they need the targeting computer thing. Thallax are good deep strikers- consider multi-melts and breaking them up into 2 units. Deep strike those bad boys behind a predator squadron and then ruin its day. That leaves you dealing with enemy armor. The Krios battle tanks are great options here, since they can put up to 4 pens on most Legion Vehicles or Primarchs. I would focus on those and Thantar, since they are going to be your area control and high strength shooting at range. Get as many as you can since you can put the hurt on enemy primarchs and their bodyguards. 500 points for destructors is crazy expensive and their range is good enough to not need a transport. I would look at grabbing some more big nasty high strength shooting from your lords of war slot, or just filling your roster out with a poo poo ton of Krios and Thanatars. Another Primarch hunting option would be a few Castellax with the Paragon of Steel upgrade. When playing your opponent is going to try their best to ram a Primarch down your throat- your Castellax blobs are great tarpits for blocking one of those. Whatever you end up doing, you should totally report results when you are done. I have never run a full AdMech list before so I am mentally masterbating to the high strength shooting slugfest you are about to embark upon panascope posted:The next time you're up here I'd like you to help me airbrush my titan. Done deal dude BULBASAUR fucked around with this message at 02:11 on Jul 12, 2014 |
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Hey does anyone know where there is a battlescribe ork repository for the new codex? I can't seem to locate one. If one had been posted here earlier I missed it.
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Just a heads up that AdMech list is missing a Troops, Castellax are non-compulsory.
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Ramuv posted:Hey does anyone know where there is a battlescribe ork repository for the new codex? I can't seem to locate one. If one had been posted here earlier I missed it. http://battlescribedata.appspot.com/#/repos This is the best, most up to date, repository.
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SUPER NEAT TOY posted:Just a heads up that AdMech list is missing a Troops, Castellax are non-compulsory. Macrotek makes Auxillia troops, and with them able to take a cortex controller it was too conveniant not to take. BULBASAUR posted:Some random suggestions: Bulbasaur: I was worried that I was taking too many darkfire cannons, but I like the idea of melta thallax, with the Venator I probably wont need more AT. Rad and melta bombs were solely because I was 15 points short and had no idea what else to take, but freeing 120 points of darkfire cannons means I have a lot of room. Occularis are for interceptor, Horus doesnt scatter so im expecting him to deep strike him, plus it can give the +1 bs from djinn skein via the skull. The 18" range on the grav imploders made me decide on the party bus, since horus and justerian are all 2+ and the worst I will be wounding is on a 3+ against the regular marines it seemed like a solid idea. I have no lords of war for Admech. Unsure where to go with those spare points though, I'll also drop the abyent since hes going with the destructors anyways. E: Decided on another castellax splitting them into units of 3, 2, and 2. Think destructor is worth the time on the thallax? Current Iteration: HQ (265pts) Magos Prime (265pts) Archmagos Prime (35pts) (Relentless), Cortex Controller (15pts), Cyber-familiar (15pts), 2x Cyber-occularis (30pts) Djinn-skein (25pts), Graviton Imploder (25pts), Macrotek (20pts), Mastercraft a single weapon (5pts) Troops (945pts) Castellax Class Battle-Automata Maniple (255pts) Castellax (85pts), Castellax (85pts), Castellax (85pts) Castellax Class Battle-Automata Maniple (170pts) Castellax (85pts), Castellax (85pts) Castellax Class Battle-Automata Maniple (170pts) Castellax (85pts), Castellax (85pts) Thallax Cohort (175pts) Destructor (25pts) (*), Multi-melta (15pts), 3x Thallax (120pts) Thallax Cohort (175pts) Destructor (25pts) (*), Multi-melta (15pts), 3x Thallax (120pts) Elites (160pts) Tech-Priest Auxillia (160pts) 5x Heavy Bolter (75pts), 5x Servo-automata (25pts) Adept (35pts) Battlesmith Cortex Controller (15pts), Lacyraemarta (*) Heavy Support (1130pts) Krios Battle Tank Squadron (150pts) Krios (150pts) Upgrade to Krios Venator Tank Destroyer (25pts) Myrmidon Destructors (500pts) 4x Myrmidon Destructor (140pts),4x Graviton Imploder (140pts), Triaros Armoured Conveyor (135pts) Myrmidon Lord (35pts) Graviton Imploder (35pts) Thanatar Class Siege-automata Maniple (480pts) 2x Thanatar (480pts) Hencoe fucked around with this message at 08:31 on Jul 12, 2014 |
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BULBASAUR posted:Some random suggestions: Do you have any pics? I can't ever tell unless it's obvious what's airbrushed and what's not i know there are some loving crazy insane Airbrushed Eldar Vehicles though. My mistake this is in fact not airbrushed model, these are not my stuff of course.  This is though 
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So, Esser-Z and I got in a Vassal game today, 2k points, his Farsight list against my Iyanden list. This was one of his first few games of 40k and I think our real question was how should you play the all-crisis suit list? He had decent amounts of shooting but really couldn't survive the return fire - he managed to kill a wraithknight that refused to make any armor saves (failed 6 out of 7) and blew up a wave serpent with Farsight in close combat, but by the bottom of turn 2 I had killed all but 4 Crisis suits, 2 of the 3 broadsides, his allied commander and almost all of his drones. Our lists for comparison: Eldar Spiritseer, attached to Wraithblades Warlock, attached to Rangers 5x Wraithguard w/ D Scythes in Wave Serpent 5x Wraithguard in Wave Serpent 5x Wraithblades in Wave Serpent 5x Rangers Crimson Hunter 3x Vyper with 2x Shuriken Cannon Wraithlord w/ bright lance, flamers Wraithknight w/ suncannon, scatter laser Fire Prism Tau Farsight, attached to Crisis squad Riptide w/ ion cannon, 2 drones Ripdide w/ ion cannon, 2 drones 3x Crisis w/ Missile/plasma, each w/ marker + shield drone 3x Crisis w/ Missile/plasma, each w/ marker + shield drone Crisis w/ dual fusion, marker + shield Crisis w/ dual fusion, marker + shield Crisis w/ dual fusion, marker + shield Broadside w/ railgun + shield drone Broadside w/ railgun + shield drone Broadside w/ missles and more missiles + shield drone Allied: Commander w/ 2x flamers 3x Crisis Squad w/ 2x flamers, marker + shield drone The crisis suits just seemed really flimsy, even with all the drone ablatives. Suggestions?
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A goon after my own heart There were some really great old dioramas back in the day, with painted backgrounds on a 2D plane like that. I miss those an awful lot, even if I don't think they'd work as well with the modern aesthetic.
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Direwolf posted:The crisis suits just seemed really flimsy, even with all the drone ablatives. Suggestions? Crisis Suits versus Wraithcannon as your basic weapon does seem like a rough matchup, if you had bolters or shuricats on your troops choices maybe it'd be different?
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Hollismason posted:Do you have any pics? I can't ever tell unless it's obvious what's airbrushed and what's not i know there are some loving crazy insane Airbrushed Eldar Vehicles though.  Airbrushed or Painted? Painted---!  Airbrushed or Painted? Airbrushed!  Airbrushed or Painted? Painted---!  Airbrushed or Painted? Airbrushed!  Airbrushed or Painted? FuckIfIknow!  Airbrushed or Painted? Airbrushed!  Airbrushed or Painted? Airbrushed!  Airbrushed or Painted? Painted---! Bottom line: it's hard to tell sometimes, because it depends on how you paint. Airbrushes are great for basecoats, thin crisp layers, highlights, and blending. Brushes are better for textures, details, fancy designs, and lots of control. I use both because frankly some things are easier with a brush and others better with an airbrush. Some painters just really push one of the unique areas, which makes it easier to spot.  Here are 5 of my test models from when I was learning to paint. Left most is oldest and right most is newest. I used an airbrush on my last 2 models. It's probably less apparent to spot than when I started using oil washes (from the third model onward) where you can tell that a ton of contrast was added to the model.
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The blending of colours is what really strikes me with airbrushing, I dunno I got like 6 of those right. I tried airbrushing but I could never get it quiet right. I am thinking of seriously trying it out for my Necrons, because I want to do kind of a Apple / Ipodish paint scheme and that off white for some reason slays me. That blue specifically with Marines looks amazing to me, I love that look. I just don't know if i'd be skilled enough to pull something like that off. I dunno I love my Necrons but man the paint job I did a basic silver , as I am not that good makes me sad. Hollismason fucked around with this message at 05:45 on Jul 12, 2014 |
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Those ultras are probably the easiest color scheme on there- just 2-3 blues layered on top of each other. Then some washes in the recesses and the other colors. If you can prime a model with a can of primer, you can use an airbrush to get those kinds of effects. You already have an army, which is way more than I can say. Don't be scared to slow down and push yourself a little. Take 10 guys and paint them one at a time- trying new things and tweaking your technique until you are happy enough with it. Sure you will fail a few times, but trying new things is how you get better. It's how I learned to paint:      It took me 12 trys: 
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