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Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
License to Kill was a gritty reboot 20 years before its time. All the complaints about Dalton's Bond seem to have little to do with Dalton himself and more to do with the franchise being in a neither-here-nor-there state at the time.

Should've given Bond a Mauser.

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savinhill
Mar 28, 2010
If I remember right, another thing that Dalton had going against his Bond career was that Pierce Bronsnan was the guy everyone wanted as Bond at the time but he couldn't do it cuz of some contact.

grilldos
Mar 27, 2004

BUST A LOAF
IN THIS
YEAST CONFECTION
Grimey Drawer

savinhill posted:

If I remember right, another thing that Dalton had going against his Bond career was that Pierce Bronsnan was the guy everyone wanted as Bond at the time but he couldn't do it cuz of some contact.

Yes, Remington Steel.

BIG HEADLINE
Jun 13, 2006

"Stand back, Ottawan ruffian, or face my lumens!"

grilldos posted:

Yes, Remington Steel.

He literally got called on the *last day* before his contract would've expired, forcing him to do it and have Dalton take over. In hindsight, I'm not sure if Brosnan would've succeeded without Goldeneye being his first.

Four Score
Feb 27, 2014

by zen death robot
Lipstick Apathy
This is getting really off track but just imagining Dalton saying "No. For me." gives me an erection.

Halloween Jack
Sep 12, 2003
I WILL CUT OFF BOTH OF MY ARMS BEFORE I VOTE FOR ANYONE THAT IS MORE POPULAR THAN BERNIE!!!!!
Brosnan always struck me as the guy tailor-made to play the 80s version of a franchise where everyone's hair is 3 inches longer in the back because it's the 80s.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.
I wish not to spoil but just found out about this. What is the general consensus? Worth my time?

Jerusalem
May 20, 2004

Would you be my new best friends?

Feenix posted:

I wish not to spoil but just found out about this. What is the general consensus? Worth my time?

It's trashy fun that is pretty stupid in places but is saved by a very strong performance by Eva Green. Also Timothy Dalton gives his usual baseline quality performance.

Flesh Forge
Jan 31, 2011

LET ME TELL YOU ABOUT MY DOG
Don't expect massive surprises (although there are some great ones) but it's a really fun show, done to super high period standards.

VDay
Jul 2, 2003

I'm Pacman Jones!
I wasn't expecting much but it ended up being just my kind of weird and I was hooked from the get-go. It's kind of hard to recommend without specifically knowing what you like, and even then it just kind of depends on whether or not some things will bug you. I have a friend who also loved it, but another one that I thought would dig it never really got into it because it was just a bit too cheesy/goofy for him.

atomicgeek
Jul 5, 2007

noony noony noony nooooooo
If you've spent any part of your life being goth as gently caress, or love trashy Victorian horror stories, you'll love it. The makers of this show obviously have a lot of love for the pulpy source material and even at its cheesiest, everyone involved brings their A game. Well, maybe Billie Piper's bringing her C+ game but it's still pretty great. If you'd roll your eyes at spiders pouring out of tarot decks, then maybe give it a miss.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
Yeah if you've ever been a huge goth weeaboo then this is basically your favorite show.

(so, me in other words)

Pyzza Rouge
Jun 25, 2011

La Mano de Dios

It's funny for me it was the violins I'm a huge sucker for violins in anything. By episode 4ish I found I was enjoying more of the show and it kept growing on me from there.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer

Jerusalem posted:

I agree he should just watch both, but in my opinion The Living Daylights is the superior of the two films. License to Kill tried something different and a little more personal for Bond though.

Yeah, The Living Daylights was pretty good, despite having one of the goofiest car chases ever. License to Kill was like watching an extended A-Team episode, and I gave up on it halfway through.

Dalton doesn't deserve all the flak he gets for his Bond. He's perfectly serviceable, but the material is a drag.

sleepingbuddha
Nov 4, 2010

It's supposed to look like a smashed cinnamon roll
Penny Dreadful: Bond Chat ITT

Firstborn
Oct 14, 2012

i'm the heckin best
yeah
yeah
yeah
frig all the rest
Killing Van Helsing is just about the worst thing this show has done.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat

Firstborn posted:

Killing Van Helsing is just about the worst thing this show has done.

He was old. Hopefully Frankestein finds some of his notes or something and the story takes off. But clearly Van Helsing was a name, not a person in the show. There's no reason to keep him as everyone else was solving the vampire problem quite well without him.

It IS kinda messed up that Van Helsing survives monster & mayhem for decades but finally falls to a band member of Fallout Boy.

Party Plane Jones
Jul 1, 2007

by Reene
Fun Shoe
Eva Green is absurdly good in this. If it wasn't such a jampacked year for Emmys she would win.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

BIG HEADLINE posted:

Opinions were split originally on Casino Royale but they've fairweathered back into people liking it because of Skyfall.

No no no, Skyfall is horrific, twee, crap, and Quantum is laughable; the only bond film where Bond doesn't gently caress the main bondgirl, and spends. most of the film hulking out of situations rather than using any kind of charm or intelligence.

Casino Royale is the only good bond film with Craig.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
Book Bond was frequently a thug so I'm okay with Quantum.

atomicgeek
Jul 5, 2007

noony noony noony nooooooo

wooger posted:

Casino Royale is the only good bond film with Craig.

And had 100% more Eva Green than the other two! We've found the answer.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


wooger posted:

No no no, Skyfall is horrific, twee, crap, and Quantum is laughable; the only bond film where Bond doesn't gently caress the main bondgirl, and spends. most of the film hulking out of situations rather than using any kind of charm or intelligence.
Your errant semicolon and period have me confused about what you mean.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Josh Lyman posted:

Your errant semicolon and period have me confused about what you mean.

drat phone keyboard. Talking about Quantum all the way after that semicolon.

It is shire.

Irish Joe
Jul 23, 2007

by Lowtax
I thought the Brits loved Quantum. Its like the highest grossing movie of all time over there.

Feenix
Mar 14, 2003
Sorry, guy.

wooger posted:

drat phone keyboard. Talking about Quantum all the way after that semicolon.

It is shire.

Hobbitses.

KasioDiscoRock
Nov 17, 2000

Are you alive?
Has anyone been able to find the deleted scene they showed at ComicCon? I've seen articles about it, but not ever a link to the clip itself.

wooger
Apr 16, 2005

YOU RESENT?

Irish Joe posted:

I thought the Brits loved Quantum. Its like the highest grossing movie of all time over there.

You're thinking of Skyfall. Yes, Brits with poor taste loved the sycophantic London landmarks and nostalgia.

I hated it, cheered out loud when Dench finally snuffed it.

Sentinel Red
Nov 13, 2007
Style > Content.

Irish Joe posted:

I thought the Brits loved Quantum. Its like the highest grossing movie of all time over there.

Son, you can fit on the back of a stamp anything and everything you know about 'Brits'.

SiKboy
Oct 28, 2007

Oh no!😱

Sentinel Red posted:

Son, you can fit on the back of a stamp anything and everything you know about 'Brits'.

So literally just what the queen looks like then?

Byers2142
May 5, 2011

Imagine I said something deep here...

SiKboy posted:

So literally just what the queen looks like then?

Please, everyone knows what the queen looks like. She's kinda famous.

PaulDirac
Aug 15, 2014
Just binge watched the show, was great fun. Dorian Grey was a bit of a twat though O: Too bad Proteus was killed so fast, would ve liked to see him a bit more, making his eventual departure maybe a bit more impactful. And i just love listening to Dr. Frankenstein, he truely has some great lines.

savinhill
Mar 28, 2010

PaulDirac posted:

Just binge watched the show, was great fun. Dorian Grey was a bit of a twat though O: Too bad Proteus was killed so fast, would ve liked to see him a bit more, making his eventual departure maybe a bit more impactful. And i just love listening to Dr. Frankenstein, he truely has some great lines.

I wish Proteus had lived just so Bride of Frankenstein could have chosen him over Friendzone Frankenstein, leading to the most epic meltdown ever.

PaulDirac
Aug 15, 2014

savinhill posted:

I wish Proteus had lived just so Bride of Frankenstein could have chosen him over Friendzone Frankenstein, leading to the most epic meltdown ever.

lol, that'd be interesting O:

Nordick
Sep 3, 2011

Yes.
I recently watched the entire show in one day as well, had a blast.

After 1st episode: "Hey this seems pretty cool" :)
After 2nd episode: "HOLY poo poo this show is the loving best" :magical:
It was the seance scene that sold it for me, and the whole Proteus shocker was just a cherry on top.

I just love the shameless melodrama in the show, and the writing and acting really is 1st class. Yeah it's cheesy, but not like the quirky happy-go-lucky adventure fluff I was expecting (went in totally blind except for the premise of "Victorian London, supernatural shenanigans").
Like, instead of some cheese flavoured nachos this show is like very fine expensive cheese, eaten by the handful atop some crackers and flushed down with fine Merlot drank straight from the bottle and spilling half on your chest.

Can't wait for season 2.

Nordick fucked around with this message at 03:29 on Sep 26, 2014

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat
Yeah, Eva Green was REALLY doing an excellent job.

Everyone except for emo Frankenstein's Monster was pretty cool. Even Dorian Grey's character, once I got what they were going for with him, was pretty good.

PostNouveau
Sep 3, 2011

VY till I die
Grimey Drawer
What ARE they going for with Dorian Grey? I never got it.

Open Source Idiom
Jan 4, 2013

PostNouveau posted:

What ARE they going for with Dorian Grey? I never got it.

Seconded. I think he's meant to be a prat, but there's a lifelessness to his character that makes the repetition of his plots just kinda boring. gently caress, stare, brood. gently caress, stare, brood. I mean, I get it, but it's not that compelling.

Actor's pretty though.

Drifter
Oct 22, 2000

Belated Bear Witness
Soiled Meat
Instead of making him be Dorian Gray, and all the coolness/conflict therein, they've made him a vampire from an Anne Rice book without actually being a vampire.

It's not ideal for a character like that, but it lets me temper my expectations.

Kesper North
Nov 3, 2011

EMERGENCY POWER TO PARTY
Season 2 teaser:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wfhik-kUBGQ

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MLKQUOTEMACHINE
Oct 22, 2012

Some motherfuckers are always trying to ice-skate uphill
It's been too long.

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