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~Coxy posted:just munge it all together
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Blinkz0rz posted:is there a better way to do wpf applications than with the mvvm pattern? it's for a simple data query/display app. viewmodel/model separation is where people tend to get lazy. if you wanna be lazy about it too, make absolutely sure this simple data query app isn't going to grow because you will badly regret that laziness if it does (it will grow)
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 09:36 |
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thanks coffeetable you wrote the truth much better than I did
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Luigi Thirty posted:dearest yospos is it a good sign when you send your resume to a local company on craigslist at 9pm and one of their engineering managers sends you an email an hour later saying that your resume is interesting and they want to talk to you it's a good sign that they want to hire you, but it might not be a good sign of a place you want to work.
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coffeetable posted:view/viewmodel separation is unavoidable in well-written wpf stuff because your views will (almost) all be written xaml. if you find yourself writing lots of codebehind, go learn more about xaml. thanks for the advice i'm kind of enjoying wpf right now. it seems like it actively pushes you towards writing nicely separated code. xaml is nowhere near as bad as i thought it would be. i've done some .net mvc stuff before so i'm implementing a repository/uow pattern behind mvvm and it seems like it's working out so far. at least i don't feel like everything is starting to mush together. what's the deal with commands? it seems like you either have to write them in the codebehind for the view, write them as routeduicommands then register them with the commandmanager, or write them on the viewmodel itself. is there a better way to do this? Blinkz0rz fucked around with this message at 14:56 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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i reckon about 10% of recruiters actually read more than 5 lines of my cv before they talk to me. also what's the difference between agile/TDD/BDD? I just saw a job add asking for Passionate Agile Developers but the text claimed to want someone with experience with all three.
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 14:44 |
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agile is primarily a way of organising and prioritising development tasks. nobody does it properly because customers never look at products TDD is an idealistic methodology of programming in which you write the unit test first then write the code to make the unit test pass. nobody does it properly because that is completely impractical dunno what BDD is
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~Coxy posted:agile is primarily a way of organising and prioritising development tasks. nobody does it properly because customers never look at products body dysmorphic disorder
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bullshit driven development
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Symbolic Butt posted:bullshit driven development
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:it's an insanely good sign and this man is a pessimist i too am a pessimist they're a c# place and my resume had python written all over it, why would they go after it so fast why would their manager be looking for emailed resumes at 9pm 3 weeks after the post went up if he responds so fast at all hours of the night, why hasn't anyone else with barely any qualifications they're looking for been hired yet do they even have an hr department
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# ? Jul 13, 2014 16:51 |
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Luigi Thirty posted:i too am a pessimist they like to do their management close to the metal
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AlsoD posted:they like to do their management close to the metal
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Luigi Thirty posted:i too am a pessimist if you good at 1 lang learning another lang is easy because he love workin or happens to have checked he mail wasnt it like a craigslist posting? doesnt strike me as a high-traffic recruitment tool probably not
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Bloody posted:if you good at 1 lang learning another lang is easy unless theyre real small they have hr, theres a lot of work in labor law compliance once you have big company things like a bunch of benefits and jackasses making hiring/firing decisions
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Definitely think very carefully about whether or not you want to work at a place with bad hr
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hr exists for a reason, and that reason is so that you don't have to personally confront your co-worker about their smell
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Blinkz0rz posted:thanks for the advice i'm kind of enjoying wpf right now. it seems like it actively pushes you towards writing nicely separated code. xaml is nowhere near as bad as i thought it would be. quote:what's the deal with commands? it seems like you either have to write them in the codebehind for the view, write them as routeduicommands then register them with the commandmanager, or write them on the viewmodel itself. is there a better way to do this? coffeetable fucked around with this message at 18:37 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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AlsoD posted:they like to do their management close to the metal lol
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Hey I suck at programming and am majoring in CS. Any good references for bubblesorting strings from a doc using c# and .Net? The purpose of the class is to write code in a language you have never used before. So there's no "how to" example in my book which doesn't even exist. To clarify, I just want a fast crash course for .Net syntax. SnoochtotheNooch fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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Kevin Mitnick P.E. posted:unless theyre real small they have hr, theres a lot of work in labor law compliance once you have big company things like a bunch of benefits and jackasses making hiring/firing decisions afaik it's a tiny local company that designs electronic medical equipment
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:Hey I suck at programming and am majoring in CS. use string.ToCharArray() then just do it in-place like you would in pretty much any other language, put it back in the String constructor at the end. if you know C or C++ or Java then you know C# syntax (for the purposes of writing loving bubble-sort in it anyway)
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AlsoD posted:use string.ToCharArray() then just do it in-place like you would in pretty much any other language, put it back in the String constructor at the end. Yea I'm very retarded when it comes to most things. I know C and yes I wrote the syntax for bubblesorting ints no problem but then everything went to poo poo went I attempted converting to string and the closest google searches took me to irrelevant poo poo on stackoverflow.
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:Yea I'm very retarded when it comes to most things. it should look very much like this: code:
gonadic io fucked around with this message at 21:37 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:The purpose of the class is to write code in a language you have never used before. honestly there's a good chance the prof chose this question exactly because your way of attacking problems (which is the same lovely way that most cs undergrads attack problems) wouldn't work very well. a good prof coffeetable fucked around with this message at 22:10 on Jul 13, 2014 |
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i figured boxing/unboxing issues would be enough of an impediment that SnoochtotheNooch would have to resort to an actual reference or just stackoverflow cargo-cult the poo poo out of it
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SnoochtotheNooch posted:Yea I'm very retarded when it comes to most things. we could give you code, but that wouldnt teach you how to solve this problem. I can't figure out how i would tell you how to do this other than "just go and loving do it" so i think maybe ur just not much of a problem solver? bascially what coffeetable said
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coffeetable posted:rather than copy and pasting chunks of code from around the internet and trying to duct tape it all together, go sit down with C# in a Nutshell and read maybe the first hundred pages. it should take you less than an hour, and it'll give you the context you need to solve your problem.
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C# is banging on the keyboard in VS and liberal use of right mouse click until something compiles also it's just java.
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tef posted:it's a good sign that they want to hire you, but it might not be a good sign of a place you want to work. agreed
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perhaps one reason why people struggle with Haskell's error messages* is that they're so used to VS or javac that actually reading them seems like a really weird concept *: type errors are all just variations on: code:
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then there's the typeclass related ones which mostly just take the form of "no instance of <typeclass> arising from the literal <literal>". typeclasses are essentially OO's interfaces
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thanks but ill keep using real languages
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AlsoD posted:perhaps one reason why people struggle with Haskell's error messages* is that they're so used to VS or javac that actually reading them seems like a really weird concept type errors aren't stacktraces. stacktraces usually show the program flow, unless there is threads and god cannot save you
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Bloody posted:thanks but ill keep using real languages your loss
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AlsoD posted:perhaps one reason why people struggle with Haskell the way in which you build a haskell program doesn't resemble the way you build something in an imperative, stateful language. the terminology you use to to describe a haskell program is different too. the methods, features, and even the the culture around haskell are alien to many industry programmers. the majority of haskell programmers are hobbyists or academics. haskell is a hard language to learn well, just like many other languages. it just doesn't share enough in common to make the jump easy for more experienced programmers. on the plus side it's doing pretty well for what is essentially an ongoing collaborative research project.
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i'm a haskell hobbyist
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so you're a Haskell user
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what is the advantage of Haskell, if any??
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LARD LORD posted:what is the advantage of Haskell, if any?? basically it's a lot easier to use than any other mainstream languages because i'm not smart enough to keep everything in my head all at once. haskell lets me spend a lot more time trying to figure out exactly what i'm trying to do and less time keeping track of a bunch of tangentially related crap
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